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fon Rotbar, 24.09.2005 8:58

I found a butterfly. She flew into the toilet, probably trying to escape the cold.
Lively, beautiful. He is currently staying in the house.
What to do?
Can I feed her somehow?
If released, will it survive the winter?

(after all, they appear very early in the spring, literally in the first days of May, even in Siberia)

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24.09.2005 9:41, сеалор

If the butterfly folds its wings wing to wing over its back, and the color is dominated by brown, black, then it is quite possible that it is some kind of wintering nymphalid. Like anglewing, peacock's eye, urticaria.
In this case, it can be fed a liquid solution of sugar or honey and released outside, but only if it is sunny and the temperature in the shade is above 7C.
She'll find shelter and spend the winter.
Most butterflies die in the fall. You can't keep them at home, they hit the glass during the day, fly to the lamps in the evening and burn there.

24.09.2005 10:53, Dmitrii Musolin

she might have flown into the house looking for a place to spend the winter. It's best to try releasing it.

25.09.2005 6:37, fon Rotbar

Yes, this is probably the eye described above or urticaria.
It was then that I noticed an almost coal-black butterfly, with folded wings, and I thought it was even burned. But she opened her wings, and so did I... stunned.
He left to feed them.

25.09.2005 9:45, fon Rotbar

Feeding was carried out successfully.
I used honey and water in a slanted saucer.
Caught, planted.
As a butterfly rushed to EAT!!! It went straight into the solution with its front legs and trunk, spreading its wings. I thought it would stick... But no.
Then, taking advantage of the temperature of 12 C, I fell through the open balcony door.

I didn't catch it. For even though the lamps do not fly, but the windows are hammered from time to time strongly.

Thank you all for your help!

26.09.2005 12:02, Helene

Most butterflies die in the fall. You can't keep them at home, they hit the glass during the day, fly to the lamps in the evening and burn there.

As a child, I had an experience that proved that there are no rules without exceptions. Lived in my apartment perelivnitsa (Apatura ilia). I took it away with the enthusiasm of the green Patrol from the small children who caught it, so wink.gifthat they could make fun of it by then, so it didn't fly away. I brought it home, fed it with diluted jam, but I didn't let it go, I left it in my room. It didn't hit the windows, because the window was covered with tulle from wall to wall. And we didn't turn on the lights in that room. Fed diluted jam or diluted honey. The butterfly lived a month longer than its counterparts flew in nature. And then I found her dead on the curtain.

26.09.2005 22:12, sealor

Well, such conditions, then of course... I tried to keep the swallowtail that came out of the cocoon. It ended tragically. Not only did it hit the lamp, but I took it out in time, so it flew behind the aquarium, and there are cobwebs.. And the spider was there. I wished I'd let him out right after he got stronger. And it looked like a male.

03.10.2005 22:59, Tigran Oganesov

I bred three oleander hawkmoth and one bindweed in December. They ate, but they clearly needed more space - they were always flying and beating against the ceiling, all the same high-speed butterflies. They died, of coursefrown.gif, the truth is they would have died in nature (I'm talking about oleanders) because they can't winter on the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, they need to go to Africa and the Mediterranean. Very beautiful.

05.10.2005 1:40, RudoyAndrey

"And then I found her dead on the curtain."
A tragic ending... But we are all mortal.
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05.10.2005 13:32, Helene

"And then I found her dead on the curtain."
A tragic ending... But we are all mortal.

And in my opinion, this is a happy ending: the animals lived a good long life and rested in peace smile.gifBy the way, if you recognize the individuality of insects, my pet was a rare pofigist: he ate sweets only like that, since they don't give you anything else! smile.gif I just didn't know the food preferences of perelivnits at that time: I should have been fed broth in my mind wink.gif

05.10.2005 15:02, Helene

True, they would have died in nature (I'm talking about oleanders) because they can't winter on the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, they need to go to Africa and the Mediterranean.

I don't know for sure about oleanders, but my supervisor told me about loach trees that they are also cold in the Mediterranean! This is essentially an exotic African butterfly. But it makes regular migrations to the north up to St. Petersburg, etc. It gives a local summer generation, freezes out in winter, and the next year - all over again.
By the way, how about a topic about non-public/interesting / funny information about insects and observations of them?

05.10.2005 19:09, XYZ

"By the way, how about a topic about unknown/interesting / funny information about insects and observations of them? "

1. There is a European database on "records" of lepidoptera. There, as I recall, first of all, the spring arrival of migratory birds (burdock, admiral). I would add the start time for an intensive swallowtail flight, but you need to distinguish it professionally from local flights (if you need instructions, I can write). With a large number of participants, it would be possible to include hawk moth (A. atropos, A. convolvuli, D. nerii, although H. nicaea and ??? are absent). The European database of" records " is supplemented by amateurs. If someone took up this task, it would be very interesting and it would be possible to cooperate with the European base.
2. Another database of records is becoming relevant now. This is warming. For example, Elijah in central Russia had one generation, now two, but not every year. Mottledwing - 3 (4), swallowtail-3(4), but it is difficult to take it into account due to flights.
The European version of the database also existed, I think it is not difficult to find on the Internet. But even without it, this is a very interesting phenology. In addition, mace-like markers in this case (as in many others). Such a database could receive grants jointly with the Institute of Meterology of the Russian Academy of Sciences or with someone else (for example, Morphology and Taxonomy of the Russian Academy of Sciences). Severtseva).
3. Russia and the United States are analogs, primarily for the monarch, of course. They're fixated on it. I do not rule out that we may have an analog of the "monarchical" base on khrisipus (Chelyabinsk?, Altai? orenburg?), again completely amateur. As far as I have heard from officials, there is a China-India school base on Chrysipus, this is part of their bilateral cooperation, unfortunately, I don't know the site and I don't know if it is being searched for, because there is a strange Internet in these countries.
4. If someone is interested in such an idea, then I can throw another five or more topics with ideas for financing ready-made sites. And you can start, for example, on this forum. In general, this is all a good science that pros will never pull.

06.10.2005 9:18, Tigran Oganesov

I don't know for sure about oleanders, but my supervisor told me about loach trees that they are also cold in the Mediterranean! This is essentially an exotic African butterfly. But it makes regular migrations to the north up to St. Petersburg, etc. It gives a local summer generation, freezes out in winter, and the next year - all over again.

I thought it was just about oleanders, just like you wrote. Are you sure you don't confuse them? They fly monstrous distances. And the bindweeds seem to be local smile.gif

06.10.2005 14:02, Helene

I thought it was just about oleanders, just like you wrote. Are you sure you don't confuse them? They fly monstrous distances. And the bindweeds seem to be local smile.gif
If you have something to start with, open it.


Well, I'll start now by continuing the conversation about the loach hawk moth and migrations in general. And then again, the subject of discussion is already beyond the scope of the topic (and especially the subforum), but this in itself is very interesting. smile.gif

06.10.2005 14:47, Tigran Oganesov

Well, why, in my opinion, in the subject. What are we discussing, if not butterflies in wintersmile.gif, How they hibernate and all that...

06.11.2005 21:15, Tany

Please tell me how to understand if a butterfly has died or fallen asleep for the winter, or is going to die. She holds tightly with her paws to the wall of the house(in which I put her), is in an upright position, and the wings are closed behind her back. When I touch her, she doesn't react. Maybe she's already dead.

06.11.2005 21:35, andr_mih

She is not dead, but only going
To winter normally, she needs a cold shed, basement or attic

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