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Tyomochkin, 10.05.2006 18:31

What are the most common habitats for butterfly pupae???

This post was edited by Tyomochin - 05/10/2006 22: 21

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10.05.2006 21:25, Ju-lia

It depends on the butterfly. Usually in places where forage plants germinate. On branches, blades of grass, twigs, fallen trees. Where the caterpillar clings, there it will be.

10.05.2006 21:39, Tyomochkin

In Moscow, I walked around a forest with a diameter of 500 meters, a forest almost in the Moscow region. I dug up the leaves, climbed all the hollows, holes! All the cobwebs and fallen trees!!!

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10.05.2006 21:48, sealor

They don't say that- "cocoons live". Then, although every butterfly caterpillar becomes a pupa, not every pupa has a cocoon.
Read this:
http://www.floranimal.ru/orders/2731.html

10.05.2006 22:10, Tyomochkin

I got the cocoon and chrysalis mixed up! I apologize!

10.05.2006 22:24, Tyomochkin

Don't share the place where you found the pupae mol.gif! Any butterflies! I liked the output! And if you leave it in the proper form...

11.05.2006 11:45, Dmitry Vlasov

To Tyomochin
Well no luck!!!
It is necessary to search in the thickness of the litter and soil, at a depth of up to 20 cm, also come across under snags that have sunk deep into the soil. It should also be taken into account that butterflies wintering at the pupal stage usually hide much deeper. than pupating in summer.

11.05.2006 14:17, Tyomochkin

I found the pupa of a wine hawk moth in the cemetery, on the ground under a flower, and in winter. And where are the pupae more located - in forests or in fields, meadows?
That's what everyone says: in the soil, in the foliage... And no matter how much I haven't watched it, no! What could be the reason?

This post was edited by Tyomochin - 05/11/2006 14: 18

11.05.2006 17:06, RippeR

The earth is big, how to find a pupa just by poking at any place is hard to say.
Can someone share where you can find caterpillars, especially before leaving for pupation?? Especially hawkmoth and ursa major. Many nocturnal ones, too.
Well, let's say some pupate somewhere in the trees, of course it will be difficult to find them, and others that live on grasses. Many bears also pupate on grasses in spring and summer, how to find them??

11.05.2006 19:56, Bad Den

And no matter how much I haven't watched it, no! What could be the reason?

The fact that: a) they hide well; b) few caterpillars survive to the pupa, even less - to the imago (few - meaning the number per unit area).
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11.05.2006 20:43, Tyomochkin

But where is the chance to find more: in the fields, meadows or forests?

11.05.2006 21:24, sealor

It depends on what kind of pupae. I myself was convinced that most often pupae come across somewhere on / in human buildings. They are easier to find there. These are whiteflies and nymphalids mainly. But in general, it is better to look for caterpillars and get rid of them later. Looking for pupae in the ground is almost like looking for a treasure:) It's the same in fields and meadows, where most caterpillars pupate underground or on the ground. In hollows - more likely, but again, not all butterflies overwinter in the pupal stage, and not all pupae lie long in the summer.
If you really want to, you can try to find a cocoon of cossus (Cossus cossus). I found it with some help. It is necessary to look under the bark of willows, which are eaten by characteristic large holes. Cocoons are available from autumn to the end of April approximately.
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11.05.2006 22:46, Tyomochkin

For a long time trying to find a pupa Vanessa Atlanta (Admiral). Can you tell me in what months they are in the pupal stage?

11.05.2006 23:09, sealor

The pupa sometimes hibernates(Lampert), but I do not know more precise data. Caterpillars on nettles or thistles, second generation (if any) only on nettles (Lampert).
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12.05.2006 9:19, Bad Den


If you really want to, you can try to find a cocoon of cossus (Cossus cossus). I found it with some help. It is necessary to look under the bark of willows, which are eaten by characteristic large holes. Cocoons are available from autumn to the end of April approximately.

By the way, I often (well, once 6 years in 10 smile.gif) met caterpillars of this species, and mainly in the sand at the roots of willows and crawling on the ground. No matter how much I tried to bring them to pupation, I never succeeded. I put the caterpillars in a jar of soil, they dug into the ground to stupefy and then died. Now I think that they should have been offered a piece of willow wood, perhaps they would have pupated in it...

12.05.2006 9:41, Nilson

A couple of years ago, In the vicinity of St. Petersburg, there was a sea of C. cossus caterpillars-they even crawled on the highway. I caught one, and it pupated in a jar of sand and plant debris, but it didn't come out of the pupa.

13.05.2006 8:11, Dmitry Vlasov

As for Cossus, I regularly found caterpillars crawling along roads (before pupating) or in rotten poplar stumps in the spring. In Yaroslavl, they often live in urban plantings. Such a caterpillar was taken home, in a jar and there of wood dust, from which it makes a cocoon. And then, as usual, with the butterflies...
Once I found a caterpillar of Kossus zimioi under the bark of a PINE tree!!! She slipped out of my matchbox at work (well, I forgot about her), I couldn't find her, and at the beginning of the summer I found a butterfly on the window. And six months later, while sorting through old papers, I found a cocoon. She reached into the folder, made a cocoon out of the chewed-up paper, and pupated safely. The only thing is that for normal and trouble-free breeding, you need to take caterpillars in the spring, after overwintering, because it is difficult to ensure a normal diapause at home.

15.05.2006 19:51, Катя Л.

Have a little laugh:

I found cabbage caterpillars in nasturtium last summer. I collected 20 pieces, put them in a jar, and took them home. At home, they somehow escaped me. The jar was on the table with the books. And can you imagine an army of hungry caterpillars crawling out of a jar and staring hungrily at a literature textbook? Consequences: chewed, unhappy textbook, happy caterpillars in the stubs. weep.gif Of course, most of them ran away without getting enough of literature, but still some of them stayed. Those who remained soon pupated. So take an example, that's how you need to gnaw science! And better close the jar with literary critics! wink.gif
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21.05.2006 23:57, BO.

This is the second year I have been breeding rural bears , and I collect caterpillars when opening grapes in the spring. I find the caterpillars in the same places . Wine hawk moth caterpillars on young grape leaves. This year, no, very severe frosts-many trees and vines were damaged. By the way, this year several(6) pieces of rural bears were hatched , and they laid a clutch of eggs -30 pcs. I would like to shoot the whole cycle. Tell me how to remove caterpillars from eggs. How long do you have to wait to see if the eggs can be transferred to the plants ?
Eggs are laid on glass.

22.05.2006 7:50, sealor

It is not necessary to transfer eggs to the plant, these caterpillars will crawl over themselves, the plant should certainly be nearby.
Wait until they hatchsmile.gif, depending on the temperature.
But the eggs must be fertilized, often in captivity butterflies lay unfertilized eggs. So it may not hatch at all, and you can wait a long time...
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