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08.03.2016 21:30, Evgeny Komarov

Yes, Basil and the rights that it is desirable, when you look at the photo on the card once it was immediately clear what the point refers to it from the map shown in the photo page. Indeed, not clicking the same for each point (and there will be many regions a lot).

08.03.2016 21:52, Evgeny Komarov

Here is an example: https://insecta.pro/gallery/55174! And where there is a search for photos? Which of the points of the heap?

08.03.2016 22:11, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Torbeevo typing in the search. Point it at me while one of the surrounding and I Torbeevsky forest all the animals to dump.
And, of course nekuzyavo (((This village is located geographically in a different area of ​​the field .....

08.03.2016 22:26, Evgeny Komarov

On horseradish has something to gain? You open a photo and must see the point! More "nekuzyavo". Although, of course we want everything at once :)

08.03.2016 22:31, Evgeny Komarov

And, Basil, I still try to point to put in place, not tied to a geographical locality, if he caught-shot. The area is important, certainly, but also the habitat landscape no less. After your Torbeevsky forest localize possible! And that will go through the village Torbeevo look :)

09.03.2016 0:25, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Eugene, if it were I set for each type of specific point - the card has already been-would be whole in them. So much so that the card can not see, would be under them)))
I specify settlements closer to that insect * (as on the label) have been found.
If you put the point even every two hundred meters-will fear (((
Of course for very significant findings make an exception.Just like here: https://insecta.pro/gallery/43606
Even comments yesterday wrote about this)))
A so-called "Torbeevsky Forest" -nazvan so at the nearest town to my village.
In fact it is:
http: // wikimapia.org/17799006/ru/Малаховское-участковое-лесничество-Виноградовского-лесничества-ГКУ-МО-«Мособллес»
An array of large and contiguous with him 4 districts of the Moscow region: Balashikha, Lyubertsy, Ramenskoye, Resurrection + GO Domodedovo.
And who is looking for, he finds.The main area which contains look :)
And if you are interested in precisely the snag under which was found a bug - please in PM :)
Even the tour will spend probably)))

09.03.2016 3:08, Yuri Semejkin

Regarding tochek.A not convenient to be next. We want something to look at where and how widespread mass? Well: Gaining genus, species, and then specify the desired area. For example the neighborhood of Moscow. We click OK. And in front of us a map with all having on it at this time point. Few of Moscow, the Moscow region, let's see.Few ? Let's add the region (s). I would like to see more. - What else is possible? And show us what something like a physical map of the world Somehow. And note that in this case the markers are the same color, for example to adult. Good. Where species are found we looked.
And now I would like to learn, and Flying-pass whether we view the local ali.We do all the same, but instead of writing the imago egg or a larva or pupa. We click OK. And in front of us all the local species.
Total: 1) .For adults markers of the same color (show the distribution). 2) For laying, larvae, pupae, etc. marker. Color. Here we see that kind of uniquely sedentary. Tk. laying -kukolki can not fly.

09.03.2016 7:29, Evgeny Komarov

Yuri, this is exactly the bust will, a kind of fence :) He does presence or absence on the site images immature stages does not help to establish a "terrain" type. TB that absolute majority simply is not on the site (it is not Lepidoptera, and snmkov in lepidopteran eggs, larvae, pupae ....I'm not talking about the fact that such information is given in the description of the species. And on the species distribution by regions, ie separately "for Moscow" ... At least (well for me and maximum) to be able to open the page view the map with points of his instructions on the website.

09.03.2016 8:38, Yuri Semejkin

Eugene! Yes, I do not insist. Just here we are talking about clarity. Let's pokritikuem. Here are your words Vasilyev said: Because your Torbeevsky forest localize possible! And that will go through the village Torbeevo look: Do not go around the village to look for when shooting in a place specified neighborhood of the village such. This is the first.
2).Somehow I do not understand the expression itself try to put points on the site, and not by Geography. binding. What is it like ? What kind of place is it? About Forest? Only about what and where he is. . So you in any way specify the geographic location of the shooting. And approximately + - dozens? hundreds of meters?. After all, your token is not binding tool, all of the hand to the eye.In modern cameras like is the ability to precisely specify the location shooting, but. Not all these cameras there, and insects is not static, but dynamic. . And in the high precision requirements when there is no object moving. Here arises al. Question. And whether the markers are needed everywhere.Yes, in the conditions of the tundra, steppes, deserts, in a flat wooded area they are some Old. And in the mountain? Or mountainous? When fully digital high-rise marks vertices title, rivers, streams., Inflows and no camera, which gives the coordinates of shooting enthusiasts shoot truth too rare.It is enough to indicate the place of shooting, and anyone who wants a place (not up to a meter, which is not required) and find out of it in the villages, if they are close, will not climb.

09.03.2016 9:06, Evgeny Komarov

We assume that both partly right, not always possible in writing to convey what you want to say. Indeed, for sufficiently homogeneous landscape quite dostotchno point on d. Ivanovka :).I mean, about this, as I have on the river Ilovlya: most extensive forest-meadow floodplain with ponds and steep right bank in output and rugged limestone gorges. On google now it's all perfectly clear on satellite, so there has got two points with a distance between them in kilometers - completely different sets of species.And about the exact binding - I'm in unfamiliar places without GPS I do not go and do not go, and within the scope of point shooting location on Google release satellite images will show up to 5-10 m long journeys (Asia, Altai, Primorye, etc. .) Any point of collection-shooting is always tied to GPS, and then transferred to the high-resolution satellite imagery tied prog OziExplorer / Hence, this approach to my own point of shooting, charges :) It is clear that so bother unit.

09.03.2016 10:16, Yuri Semejkin

In our time there were no GPS. Probably handy, I never used.

09.03.2016 12:07, Evgeny Komarov

Yuri, in the our was not there :) This is the last dozen or so, I go skating with him. Before any major trip is pumped maps and satellite imagery for the entire planned route, cables, ship in a netbook. And then in the car on the site of a navigator with the netbook on your lap and running Ozi-com with a connected GPS.Not only do you see the position of the machine and the surrounding landscape for a dozen or more kilometers for orientation and selection of interesting places, but then you can view the entire route by downloading it to the same Google release space image with all the collection points. Here for example last year Kazakhstan (meky scale). But you can see all the details to increase.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php? fbid = 798299653580892 & set = a.798299636914227.1073741853.100002025950541 & type = 3 & theater

09.03.2016 15:30, Vasiliy Feoktistov

I think that should just make a bigger default map scale, output when approaching the photo page.
To display approx. So:

For example, the page took this photo: https://insecta.pro/gallery/42748
In this place, already points to merge into one at a scale that is now.Zoom is the most optimal solution to this problem.
And in order to see the other point, which is located near the scale you can reduce your own))

10.03.2016 1:43, Vasiliy Feoktistov

In addition to the previous post :(
The distance in a straight line from the point to the st. Nameless approx kilometer.
To measure the distances used SAS.Planeta loaded with a Google map in it:

That is in my opinion the idea about the true zoom. It will be painless.And the "extra points will not be visible :)
Unless, of course it is technically possible to implement?

10.03.2016 6:25, Evgeny Komarov

Yes, there is, and I had kind of thought the following: when you open a page with photos attached, we are interested in the place of shooting, fishing.Why see the extra points that do not belong to the photo? If the photo is not bound, then yes - it shows all available points have to choose - to link to an existing or create a new one, and what is already tied to?
As a result, the ideal (in my opinion) the next. Open the photo (tied) - see point.One! Open the page of the form - see all the points where specimens of this species recorded at the site. Is it possible to implement, Peter appears to say.And it seems to me, may not need the window with the map on the type of page? Maybe its just cause "button" and it will be fine to turn even the whole screen? And active "button" only attached photos.

10.03.2016 8:50, Vasiliy Feoktistov

"Open photos (tied) - One can see the point.!"
Eugene, that's what I mean. )
In my example, the distance between the grind to the nearest approx. 650 meters:

In the proposed version of the scale of credit default bdizhayshey point it is no longer visible.This is a huge advantage: it will be possible to put a point on the map much more heap than do it now without the risk that they will be merged into one map to a particular photo.
The solution lies on the surface - you only pick up)))
Peter, please note)

10.03.2016 10:10, Evgeny Komarov

Basil, I was referring to show single point to the photo (the others are not shown), rather than a "game" in the scale window. Moreover, such a large scale in the view window will require a mandatory reduction of its viewing to understand the real location.In your example, because it is not clear exactly where this point, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Vladivostok? Until zoom out, you will not understand.
Oh and one more thing. Now and fear, in the long term, the number of points determined by the activity in the case of several participants. A tie pictures only their authors are today.So many pictures (thousands), laid before the given features, without an anchor. And now there is a feature, not enjoyed by all. How is it going to do?

10.03.2016 10:37, Vasiliy Feoktistov

"Basil, I was referring to a single point to show a photo (the others are not shown), rather than a" game "in the scale of the window."
Eugene, this is certainly the best option. But I think that it can not be done technically.
But zoom by default picture that is already tied is feasible.Regarding the participation in relation to the photo card - a private affair of the authors photo and no one has the right to oblige them to do it.
Moreover, no stranger shall not bind others' photos on geography, which is written to the picture not to themselves.
It is full of pictures with Undetailed, and often with a rather dubious geography.Therefore, in this matter let it be as it is.

10.03.2016 11:08, Evgeny Komarov

We look forward to Peter! But things such as selective screening points are implemented on the same Plantarium. Another question, as far as really here to do, and what it will cost :)

10.03.2016 11:40, Peter Khramov

Selective Display, different scale, etc. - All this is done, will soon open on the site.
Regarding knit to a single point, or still put different - again suggest that we return to the question of accuracy. For example, there are markers with a precision (radius or diameter, obsuzhdaemo) 100 m, 1 km and> 1 km.And, accordingly, the author can put a big point Torbeevo, and her knit a bunch of insects (but then it is a point more than 1 km) or to put a lot of individual, but more accurate.Special restrictions in the number of dots on the maps not in the group they are going (to visually block the entire map), so if you can, why not put more accurate?

10.03.2016 11:54, Yuri Semejkin

Peter! Attached picture is not to the public at. Perhaps al. Also with the same face. Therefore I, at least at first, if possible, provide a picture moving from one point to another. As Basil offered. Or, as an option to be able to detach his own image, then to attach the right place.

10.03.2016 12:41, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter, if possible selective screening marker points would be better to do on a minimum radius)

10.03.2016 14:59, Evgeny Komarov

"With regard to bind to a single point, or still put different - once again return to the question of accuracy" .

In my opinion there is no problem here. If the author is aware of the point with an accuracy of up to a dozen, fifty, and even hundreds of meters - one conversation - to put an end, if not the same as existing in the same radii.Such points, with the available resolution satellite imagery of Google, easily put, if you are well familiar with their gathering place even without GPS, and is well More info about the type of habitats. Well, if you have an insect (photo) with the label "Ochre Serpukhov.", Then knit to Serpukhov - other options do not see. Therefore, common sense only.

10.03.2016 19:44, Peter Khramov

Yes, but you need to make it clear that this is not exactly in Serpukhov on Ulyanov street, namely the neighborhood. Those. shall be the property of the point, "they say, is not correct, the radius is greater than 1 km." Or 1 km away and something else.

10.03.2016 19:44, Peter Khramov

Yuri, editing / transfer will be available soon.

10.03.2016 19:56, Evgeny Komarov

It is possible that in this case it is sufficient to describe the picture? There in fact is precisely the vicinity of Serpukhov? Those. You do not need to "fence" the additional complexity?
Something no one but me, and there in the discussion of Basil not active! Or because the two of us started yet actively use it?
Colleagues! Opinions needed! "Fitch" in fact extremely useful and interesting!

10.03.2016 20:06, Evgeny Komarov

And just about the ability to put the geography to others' pictures. Vasili expressed his opinion, but if the moderators, at least, will not be able to snap pictures of others, will lose a lot of information about the distribution of species. Yes, it is not always an exact geography (it is discussed in the post above).Doubtful indications (here you can color label, or something else) is worth discussing. Speak, colleagues.

10.03.2016 22:38, Peter Khramov

"It is possible that in this case it is sufficient to describe the picture?"
Eugene, and need not be limited only oobsuzhdenie fotami. The types will also knit, for example. And there is not enough data in the caption to photographs. There must be a clear point of the property.

11.03.2016 0:25, Peter Khramov

Open to the public access new features and changes:
1. Now in the general map and the map in the photo, you can choose which show the point, and which are not.
eleven. In general the default map displays all the points.
12. On the map image:
1.2.1.If the point is not already installed, then (only for photos of the author) displays his point and general terms (so you can quickly decide to set a new point or knit to the already existing).
1.2.2. If the point is already set, it is displayed only.
13.And general, and on the private map using the check boxes, you can instantly change the settings (to withdraw more or less on the type of card points).
2. Reduce the size of marker icons in the legend, so they take up less space.
3. Increased the default scope for a photo card.
4. On the general map shows the number of points of each type.

11.03.2016 7:34, Evgeny Komarov

Everything works fine!

11.03.2016 7:41, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Thank you, Peter.
Much better now looks. Now the point of the heap can be planted on the map :)
It is time to open the edit :)
Offhand seen 4 main options:
1) Change the attribute personal / obshestvennaya
2) Edit the description of the point.
3) Removal from the point of their photos in order to place them in another (more) point.4) Move the most points to another location (for cases when it is initially mistaken).
Deposit is to be available at the point of moving conditions if it is "personal" or other users have not yet adhered to her own photo.

11.03.2016 9:14, Evgeny Komarov

And in terms of the form page! :) Then absolutely super!

11.03.2016 12:00, Peter Khramov

Eugene, Basil, yes, these features are unlocked and a couple more in the foreseeable future.
ZY Something we have almost no points for North / South Americas. A white spot on the map straight ...

11.03.2016 12:12, Evgeny Komarov

Excellent! And America will be, that's just there just have more often the state to put an end. And just about it: at one time a bunch of pictures downloaded from quite a decent indication of geography. This refers to the ph K. Krajewski of Guyana. He was already on the site is not very long ago, and some of their tie? Those. again about the right not to bind their pictures!

11.03.2016 12:18, Peter Khramov

With regard to rights - will do. With regard to Guyana - I'll write to Constantine.

11.03.2016 14:16, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Costa Rica, Peru, French Guiana (not to be confused with Guyana: two different states) already have more points :)
Later will be Argentina, Brazil, and in my opinion something else. Just had not yet reached. Photo is on my site is already full and it is impossible to bind all at once)))

11.03.2016 15:42, Peter Khramov

«link at the very Wikimapia: http://wikimapia.org/ time and the need to write descriptions of the geography in the points will disappear by itself.»
By the way, I'm not stuck, why is it no longer? Yes, there are more facilities, but it's just easier viewing, snapping, the description, but it does not eliminate the need ...

11.03.2016 16:33, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Do not disappear by neohodimo I saw myself already)))
And Wikimapia screwed anyway. The necessary thing :)

11.03.2016 22:19, Peter Khramov

Citizens, not whether to make the default display mode "Sputnik"? With signatures essno ...

11.03.2016 22:33, Vasiliy Feoktistov

I am for.
Simply navigate to.
And with a layer Wikimapia all the charm :)

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