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19.03.2016 23:00, Peter Khramov

Eugene, of itself, is provided.

20.03.2016 2:24, Peter Khramov

On the page, edit points, new possibilities:
1. Combining points (transfer of all entities (photos, species) from one point to another, followed by the removal of the one from which transferred).
2. Removal point.
The corresponding buttons are located below the map on the edit page.

ZY As for the gardens of butterflies, etc.- Confusion and the truth may be. Probably you will need to sign sgorodit "artificial locality" and display these points only for additional team, for example. Just get rid of them is not necessary, because on the map to see that in Moscow you can still flip morph if desired - at may also be useful.Oh, and by the way, Yuri, "Maps" section shows the georeferenced point, rather than the spread that whatsoever. The fact that dots of doplyasat can to some extent spread to - useful (but not only) investigation.

ZzyLord, remind the need prostanovki radius (using the page editing point) for the previously added marker.

20.03.2016 5:16, Yuri Semejkin

Peter! Let's go back to the bindings. That is the addition 3/19/2016 3:00 Petr Khramov
We put a point with a radius of 5 meters. They remembered that 10 meters of her rented forty photographs. It extends the range up to 30 meters, strapped new photos. And if not removed forty? And if not expanded, and left 5.
This is not correct.After all, for example, I set the radius of 30, but apart from me and removed others. They see my social point, and theirs shots do not fall within the radius. They are taken at 40, 50, 100 m from the point of my public. And they create a new one? I think it is not necessary to measure the radius of tens of meters, and put not less than 100-250 m Or something I do not understand?
Ps.At the moment, in terms of public author moves its contents, not just with your photos. It has been moved to point 151, and it was my picture on the idea that like only I could move. In this case, do not worry, I am satisfied with the author's allegations point range. But it should not be like ...

20.03.2016 8:51, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Interested removal is not the whole point, and delete a photo from the point of order, to do more to the point is this photo. This provided?

20.03.2016 9:05, Evgeny Komarov

More specifically interested in the transfer of individual images from one point to another, or even delete individual snapshots from the point.
And this is just food for thought: on the author's personal page will be a button "My geographical point." Pressed - got a list of all of its points (number, name, description, range, location, number of attached pictures).Select one from the list and then redaktiruesh all that relates to it. Now editing points is very time-consuming (if there are many), because after editing one and save the changes, again forced to move to the "Map" tab, again look for the next point to be edited, and so with each point. Well, the last sentence: geographical points need to illustrate the landscape images.

20.03.2016 18:58, Peter Khramov

Regarding what rights remain with the author's point after it added a photo of other authors - the issue under discussion. Let's discuss who believes.
Regarding the detachment and / or transport of photons from a point - provided, will soon open.
With regard to the points list - provided (similar to photographs and lots). Soon open.Regarding the images of the landscape - how to run a gallery of landscapes, these images can be secured to the points as well as basic. I assume here that they have to go to the beginning of the bag results point.

20.03.2016 19:19, Evgeny Komarov

On the issue of common points, I think, not so much the problem, if a person puts an end to the properties of the general, so should understand that these properties should be at the point where many are collected (removed) now or in the future.Also here is an example - put an end to the total Anisimovka, Irina immediately wrote to its range covered more because she filmed a lot along the road to Sergei Anisimovka from the base. Well, obviously, there are still many people visited and will visit again.Well, and what rights should be in this case, the author? Yes, the right to own the pictures attached to this point, no more. Radius general point can also be changed, but abuse it is not worth it - resolution satellite images enough to within ten square kilometers instruct more than enough points of their own.Well, just to be a reasonable approach to these points and, above all, to think how to put a point.

20.03.2016 20:06, Peter Khramov

Eugene, here in this case on the reasonableness of the approach, unfortunately, is not enough to hope. When talking about the overall work, so just need to hard-code everything. What the author can not, and who may then, if he does not.

20.03.2016 20:30, Evgeny Komarov

So I wrote that it might - to work with your photos, tied to a common point. Move, delete the point - no. About obsuzhdaemo radius, perhaps for personal communication point, increase the radius. The rest (which can still occur - do not come to mind) - business administrator.And about a reasonable approach, I mean the variety of types of points when installing: first think, and then to set overall.

20.03.2016 21:22, Peter Khramov

On the basis of which the moderator may decide to move, rename, description, change the radius point, and the like?

20.03.2016 21:49, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Strongly disagree. Moderator here can not make any decisions.
The point is purely personal point of the author's case. And to intervene in this area is unacceptable and simply incorrect.
I say immediately get up on its hind legs if someone from the climb in my point with their adjusted (move, rename, etc.) ((
Because I know my point better than anyone else.
Let's leave all responsibility for the created point on the author. I wrote him a letter with the wishes and he decides what to do.

20.03.2016 22:08, Peter Khramov

Basil, what you better know, is important for ne_obschestvennyh points. Once the point of becoming public, the author ceases to be a king and a god in its management.
In general, the more I look at all this, the more it seems to me that the "public" points you need to cancel. Let there be three points three different authors in one place.All the same, it will be clear, transparent and peaceful than coexist different people at one point. Even with control by the moderator. A person who will watch it all, Well Well, look at a few points, not one. But in response, each only for their markers and each of them is only the demand.
Say what?

20.03.2016 22:17, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter, by the way.
Do you know where there is a so-called geographically "Pine of comet" near the village of Old Omutischi, Petushki district of Vladimir region?
That's me to the fact that the author is more familiar with the geography of their own points, and no one has the right to climb to adjustments except himself :)
Single cancels the public. It will be quieter.

20.03.2016 22:30, Peter Khramov

This is me to the fact that the author is more familiar with the geography of their own points, and no one has the right to climb to adjustments except himself:)
In social terms, though formally the author and one, in reality they can be considered somewhat (everyone who attaches his foty and other entities to the same point).
With regard to the public - I understand your opinion.I listen to more people. Who is for, who is against, who are thinking.

20.03.2016 23:22, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter, and you have no possibility to fasten a map tool to measure the distance from point A to point B?
If possible, the availability of tools will greatly assist in the correct fielding radius point.

20.03.2016 23:36, Irina Nikulina

It is unfortunate that here too there has been some conflict (I thought that the common points is quite possible to come to some reasonable common variant interested authors (both literally 5 minutes we with Eugene turned out) "Let there be three points three different authors in one place "- that's me somehow do not like ..Do not agreed on a radius, for example, and I must at the same point or a little close to create their own, but with a large radius, which immediately absorb the previous one, and then, when I begin to attach photos, confused and increase until they split in two? ( (Have you tried it?Yesterday I edited the common point that was created by me before, and it happened to be close to the point of others. Author (this fact was not visible under a particular picture), and then could not attach anything to it, because in the "Sputnik" they do not share even at the highest magnification. Section only in the "Map" I moved her most.that it is not merged with another point. Honestly, I do not understand why you can be against increasing the range of reasonable ..? Let's say I put the 50 m and SAMA nominated point total, and another author takes exactly the same here, but covers a large area around and asks to increase the radius of, say, up to 200 m? So why can I be against if my area will go down in general? Just because the first designated this point? Like the post of Eugene from 19.19 "...just has to be a reasonable approach to this point, "It would be a reasonable approach for not such too problematic question (here, too, agree with Eugene) and less categorical. Do not really want to see the map overloaded with unnecessary points. This is my personal opinion, probably, remain in the minority ))

21.03.2016 0:04, Peter Khramov

Basil, but with a ruler from Google, unfortunately, there are some strained. In the plans it is, but we have finished yet. Probably the graphical display will appear radius than the line ...
Irina, if at all common points will not, you will need to search only their point among strangers. And it is enough to uncheck the show most of these strangers.With regard to common sense - very much like to, but there is a suspicion that, in the conditions of an unlimited number of users of each point will not be possible to agree: - (

21.03.2016 2:56, Yuri Semejkin

With radii like understood. It should be sufficient and a reasonable specific area. The point must be shared (I also do not like the version of points of different authors). The value of the radius of the authors decide to let the pictures, they can always negotiate and come to a consensus.In case of controversial issues, you can always go to the site and ask for advice, recommendation.
If someone comes to the point radius to another (-s), then do not worry. Over time, if the authors deem it necessary, they will join a point or change the radius, or moved them. There are always options.And do not be afraid that if there is a lot of authors. then there will be problems as dogovoritsya.Ved by points cover a certain area, so all newly emerged authors will only have to choose where to join (for others. Simply attach a picture). You do not have the part (modders and admins) to climb here.Basil Rights saying that only the author of the picture clearer, where he was filming. With a large range of values. This truth is it will not matter. Over time, all calm down, the radii will result in sootvetstvit and everything will be Ok!

21.03.2016 7:22, Evgeny Komarov

1. Peter, I did when I wrote "(which can still occur - do not come to mind) - the administrator dealing" - that, and wrote that comes to mind that has to do with the point, ie, need Edit "from the" have not seen.Well, what changes? The only thing that comes to mind is when creating a common point the author missed cool (it happens very few times nakosyachil) and set the wrong way, noticed immediately, but it is already attached your pictures to other users. Here so, contact the administrator likely. Although, when the possibility of editing points (ie,transfer pictures from one point to another, etc.) will earn in full, and this resolves easier through mutual contacts.
2. As regards the abolition of the common points: in popular mestah.vopros is not quite clear to me.Although nothing terrible can not see that, instead of one common point in the same Anisimovka will be a dozen, but good, I must say - too. We must think. Better to leave the common points, but the rules stipulate approach to their installation. And, Peter, the general point is now placed by default! Here it and is not necessary.Suppose that by default it will be personal! And as the author of the general will decide if he was approached and asked to make it general.

21.03.2016 14:22, Peter Khramov

The value of the radius of the authors decide to let the pictures, they can always negotiate and come to a common opinion.
Nope, can not. Especially, if unfamiliar. Especially if one of them does not speak Russian. that only the author of the picture clearer, where he was filming
And if these five authors at one point, some of them more clearly than others?

and this resolves easier through mutual ContactsAbout resolves this easier through mutual contacts
Between the three men resolves. Sometimes, even among the five.But men do not so much on the site we have bu (I hope).
but the rules stipulate approach to their installation
Here let us and discuss the approach. Here it is what should be the approach?

With defaults - God be with them until the matter is not resolved at all, whether to stay on site shared points or not.

21.03.2016 15:37, Yuri Semejkin

1). And if these five authors at one point, some of them more clearly than others?
Yes, even at one point in 1000, and all of them all is clear, since they are all in the same radius. If someone enters the claimed range, it simply attaches to other pictures point, and in the absence creates a new one.
2). According to strangers. Yes, everything they can.They especially and do not need to negotiate. All that they need, is a simply attach pictures, similar to paragraph 1. In the case of surplus points to some areas of any author or representative of the administration of the site may come up with a proposal of any changes. everything is solved
3). Especially if one of them does not speak Russian ....In neighboring countries, but can not see any problems related to the lack of knowledge of the language. .... As far zarubezhyu._ Duck for them to have the English version of the site. So No problems.

21.03.2016 20:17, Evgeny Komarov

Peter! Yuri rights. Members, guests will attach to the existing or create your point, and permanent participants always find a way to solve the problem (if such occurs), either between themselves or with the assistance of the administrator. In my opinion, too much attention to this problem. Stipulate that the total points can not be less than the radius of 1-2 km, and everything on it.And outside of this range can still put. And this does not preclude the formulation of new points within the radius of the existing common. Why? Simply because that is the radius, ie, circle, which includes very different habitats. I'm in the same Anisimovka put his particular point within a radius of total on the creek, becauselive along it quite specific types of ground beetles, not to move away from this creek below a couple of meters. Not all types are distributed as evenly as butterflies, although some of them are local.

21.03.2016 20:44, Peter Khramov

Pressing the point now shows the radius of a circle. Editing accuracy of digital data (latitude and longitude) is increased.

22.03.2016 3:11, Yuri Semejkin

Stipulate that the total points can not be less than the radius of 1-2 km, and everything on it.
And this is how? How to measure up the mileage? Scale and line on no map. Watch footage on the speedometer or Gaugeable steps? As -That's not clear. You can of course go to the Earth, there is a possibility to make measurements. But whether it is necessary.Peter introduced the innovation now range in color, clearly was. Maybe this and sufficient? Personal point in common-I like, but only as a biotope. For a small radius will make it easy to find the locality object.

22.03.2016 5:31, Evgeny Komarov

And this is how? How to measure up the mileage? Scale and line on no map. Watch footage on the speedometer or Gaugeable steps? As -That's not clear.
I do not understand, Yuri? What do you mean, how? And the point of the radius of what we have in its properties? You put a radius of 2000 m and all.
Personal point in common-I like, but only as a biotope.For a small radius will make it easy to find the habitat of the object.
This is what is meant.

22.03.2016 5:38, Evgeny Komarov

Peter! No one has written so far - can I have one like this: when you install a new point, if I just ask her range, it is not stored, it remains 0. Only after re-entering through the editing, the radius is placed correctly.

22.03.2016 5:51, Boris Georgi

By the way, yes. I, too, was that.

22.03.2016 6:40, Yuri Semejkin

Sorry Eugene! Something I was blocked, not to get carried away.

22.03.2016 8:39, Evgeny Komarov

Yeah, it happens :)

22.03.2016 12:49, Peter Khramov

With the common points - it seems that they have to turn off just for technical reasons, as soon as we start to knit them not only photons, but also, for example, species. There generally is no place to bring the Old then, who generally view tied, and will complete nonsense ...
With regard to the radius of the newly established points - Okay, check it out.

22.03.2016 15:09, Evgeny Komarov

So bright memory of him :) - points overall!

23.03.2016 6:16, Evgeny Komarov

Only this: to eliminate common need to start editing the images attached to them - because already have points in common with the images of at least two authors. To be able to move them out to join her. Or he is somehow going to solve?

23.03.2016 7:02, Yuri Semejkin

In short! With the common points - it seems that they have to turn off ........ Peter! And then what is recommended? Temporarily not produce on the map any action to clarify situatsiy.i advice. I would like to hear what you can do now on the map and what is not .....

23.03.2016 14:05, Peter Khramov

All you can do, it is desirable not only to strengthen their foty to others' points before finally poreshat question in one way or another.

23.03.2016 14:11, Evgeny Komarov

Peter, one more wish for the future, lapped with the same Plantarium. There you can view a list of your photos (own gallery) and see the photos, which are not tied to a geographical location. For those who have several hundred or even thousands of images on the site, it would be helpful.

23.03.2016 16:43, Ivan Tislenko

Is it possible to implement a binding photo to the point by entering the existing terms in the special field when editing photos? I have a lot of photos with a single point - it would be easier and faster to insert the point number in the appropriate field.

23.03.2016 17:13, Peter Khramov

Eugene, think about it. Ivan, yes, something like that is planned.

24.03.2016 3:38, Yuri Semejkin

Stipulate that the total points can not be less than the radius of 1-2 km, and all this
Eugene! In most cases, yes, I agree. But what to do in cases where insects are attached to the plants common locally (dot), and the removal does not occur. Now I am talking about the parks and gardens, where there is a lot of people.Putting their biotope point, in this case, it did not seem very suitable? Probably in such cases it is better to put the general biotope point, even if it is incorporated into the overall big, with a radius as you suggest 1-2 km?

24.03.2016 5:42, Evgeny Komarov

Yuri, I wrote about it. I'll be back to the same Anisimovka, where the same type of terrain stretches approximately 4-5 kilometers along the road in from Anisimovka to Gribanovka and general point can just stand in the middle of the road, capturing the landscape with a radius of 2-3 km. But ...there are streams, to the narrow coastal zone which is attached a number of interesting species of ground beetles, and the crests of the hills above Gribanovka all other "fairy tale." At any one point in common is not enough. But, again, this is if Peter will be able to solve problems with them in the further development of this service to the species, etc.In principle, it is possible to dispense with the general and - well, not so much in our active members and, even if in 2-3 years or more, their number will double, the problem will not create these things, and if they will, then the problem will be solved by its admission :)

24.03.2016 6:58, Yuri Semejkin

Well, of course.

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