Photo #35246: Cyana perornata

12.01.2015 21:41, Peter Khramov

Basil, thanks for the link. Clearly, the translator will sooner or later all the information that he needs. It just takes time. Well, because while we often underestimate accepted, then I translate into numbers: normal manual translation discussion post will cost from 400 to 800 re.Irina, if you're talking about translation from the Japanese, yes - the madness of the brave we sing glory!
On the insects have to switch to automatic translation, will not get to ...

12.01.2015 18:49, Vasiliy Feoktistov

That's what exists for translations of such texts: http: //www.vokabula.rf/slovari/arrabs/
I think there are answers to many questions :)

12.01.2015 18:16, Irina Nikulina

Leo, I think, would do it gracefully, as always), Peter, how about convert description to 16-17 species and at the same time to the whole race? :) Also shoot? :)) Google gives takooooe ... :) Forgive me for verbosity, do not like to even a shadow of doubt remained)

12.01.2015 18:02, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Not identified → Cyana perornata / Confidently identified / Vasiliy Feoktistov.

12.01.2015 17:58, Peter Khramov

If today was a manual translation of comments Site in English, the translator would just shot himself. The inaccurate? Or accurate?

12.01.2015 17:42, Irina Nikulina

Still I think it's kind ofCyana perornata, - noted that it is in the region's largest, with such wingspan. All the other smaller or significantly smaller.If we understand in detail what is stable in the figure of the wings, and that varies, just in the photo have all the defining stably present for the kind of signs (in VC) - just straight red sling (often trimmed with black), marginal red sash with zigzag internal Abroad (raznovelikie teeth!), Short red strip at an angle to the Coast near the apex and one oval black discal spot in the male (the female is round). And the only species with a disk. spot in the male a few, but all the others do not fit the size and pattern.In addition, the more important point - in the description of types of detail the size and shape of the spots on the underside of androconial VC (it is all different), and here it is fully consistent with perornata. Sasha, and as for the question, they just, I think, deal with varying symptoms - 1. pink wings meet, seen onto some. photo on boldsystems.org 2.Black can be framed as the two median band, and no. It can be seen on boldsystems, and jpmoth. And, often black rim at the outer sling thinner and interrupted in the middle here, and this can be clearly seen even on photo Dmitry # 29951. 3. The length of the near-edge red sling varies, judging by those at the site copies.Perhaps, and this, too, is long. These are detailed considerations. (And the request to add size, by the way, was there not in vain))

25.12.2014 19:03, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Have now Copyright comments)

25.12.2014 17:43, Irina Nikulina

Size? It is important.

15.11.2014 23:40, Vasiliy Feoktistov

And more will come later Cyana sp. several.....

15.11.2014 19:44, Alexandr Zhakov

Three signs are confused:
1. pink lower wings
2. Both middle of the red framed black sling,
3. Radical red sash reaches almost to the bottom edge, at perornata only to the middle.
individually can be ignored, but all together confirms the decision of Basil.

15.11.2014 4:45, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Cyana perornata ?

15.11.2014 3:49, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Here they just can not be put into precise. Can you confirm or deny.
Like the Japanese have found one such rozovokrylogo male:
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/02_EREBIDAE/02_ARCTIINAE/04_Lithosiinae/21_Cyana/Cyana%20perornata/Cyana%20perornata.htm
But still I did not dare.