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Where can I catch a deer beetle?

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17.12.2013 11:39, Wild Yuri

I was honestly shocked yesterday:
We got into a conversation with a person who didn't know much about beetles, and he began to assure me that he had seen a cervus in the Vladimir region, in the Sobinka district. After attempts on my part to prove that this can not be, I showed a photo of a deer (I have it in my phone) and he said: "It's this particular bug." Believe it or not (I'm leaning towards the latter anyway)??? confused.gif Who knows, please clarify the siuationation.

1) Arrived with freight cars, with logs.
2) Vacationers "delivered" from the south, played with the beetle and released.
Very ordinary stories. We once caught a big oak barbel in our city. "Arrived" or brought, I think. However, it was listed in the Red Book of the region. frown.gif

04.01.2014 19:11, karakatym

Good evening!Has anyone ever heard of deer beetle sightings in Belarus?
It is known for certain that it was definitely seen in our Red Listsmile.gif. I would like to know in which regions, districts,cities it was seen!

04.01.2014 22:32, DYNASTES

Good evening!Has anyone ever heard of deer beetle sightings in Belarus?
It is known for certain that it was definitely seen in our Red Listsmile.gif. I would like to know in which regions, districts,cities it was seen!


According to the same CC of Belarus -

05.01.2014 2:15, karakatym

I agree with you!And yet I want to hear people who caught, and not just focus on the map-scheme!I want, so to speak, "firsthand".It is very difficult to work with enthusiastic specialists in Belarus!Personally, I didn't find any information about them!

05.01.2014 21:28, DYNASTES

I agree with you!And yet I want to hear people who caught, and not just focus on the map-scheme!I want, so to speak, "firsthand".It is very difficult to work with enthusiastic specialists in Belarus!Personally, I didn't find any information about them!


In this regard, I can also add that about 6-7 years ago, a friend of mine from Polotsk tried to look for them in the oak forests in the Gomel region, where he regularly went to visit relatives in the summer, but his search there was never crowned with success. In other territories of the country, as far as I know, he no longer looked for them. I had to give him a large pair of "Kharkiv" deer.

06.01.2014 0:20, karakatym

Thanks for the answer!
And maybe you can tell me where on this forum you can communicate with like-minded people from Belarus,of course, if there are any!Thank you in advance!

10.01.2014 21:36, Hierophis

It's all strange, Belarus judging by the map of the area in the center, and around the oak forests, there should be a lot of these deer beetles! Probably it's not that you have a few beetles, but that no one is looking for them ))
I've found it twice, just by accident ,on the edge of our range, in the steppe..

11.01.2014 19:45, Molobratia

I agree with you!And yet I want to hear people who caught, and not just focus on the map-scheme!I want, so to speak, "firsthand".It is very difficult to work with enthusiastic specialists in Belarus!Personally, I didn't find any information about them!


I regularly meet them, starting from the end of May-beginning of June in Polesie, in the areas where old oak forests are located (more specifically, Luninetsky district). I even caught a few males that were attracted by females sitting on willows and oaks (then it was possible to catch at least 2 dozen, selected a few pieces). By the way, on warm June nights, going out into the forest for about 4 hours, I often met beetles (mostly females) that flew into the light, even in the village under the lanterns, and even collected some of them. I don't know if this answer will satisfy you)))

13.01.2014 13:11, karakatym

I regularly meet them, starting from the end of May-beginning of June in Polesie, in the areas where old oak forests are located (more specifically, Luninetsky district). I even caught a few males that were attracted by females sitting on willows and oaks (then it was possible to catch at least 2 dozen, selected a few pieces). By the way, on warm June nights, going out into the forest for about 4 hours, I often met beetles (mostly females) that flew into the light, even in the village under the lanterns, and even collected some of them. I don't know if this answer will satisfy you)))


The answer is completely satisfied!Thanks!!!I'll look for it.

12.08.2014 21:36, Anthicus

Colleagues,

For the project report, you need a published reference to the Lucanus cervus find in the boreal part of European Russia. I've seen "Pskov Region" on websites, and even "Leningrad Region" somewhere, but is there any published data from there or from neighboring regions of Russia?

Thank you very much in advance!

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13.08.2014 1:04, Victor Titov

Colleagues,

For the project report, you need a published reference to the Lucanus cervus find in the boreal part of European Russia. I've seen "Pskov Region" on websites, and even "Leningrad Region" somewhere, but is there any published data from there or from neighboring regions of Russia?

Thank you very much in advance!

There is an indication of a single find in the Yaroslavl region (naturally, with reservations about possible drift-import) in the article by D. V. Vlasov "New and little-known xylophilic coleoptera of the Yaroslavl region" - http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/new_yar1.htm
In the Red Book of the Kaluga Region (Kaluga: Zolotaya Alley, 2006), the deer beetle is included and there are indications of its findings in the Kaluga Region in September 1981 and June 2002 (p.294).
If my memory serves me correctly, there are publications about the finds of Lucanus cervus in the Tula region (I recommend contacting Lavr Bolshakov about them).
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13.08.2014 9:56, Anthicus

There is an indication of a single find in the Yaroslavl region (naturally, with reservations about possible drift-import) in the article by D. V. Vlasov "New and little-known xylophilic coleoptera of the Yaroslavl region" - http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/new_yar1.htm
In the Red Book of the Kaluga Region (Kaluga: Zolotaya Alley, 2006), the deer beetle is included and there are indications of its findings in the Kaluga Region in September 1981 and June 2002 (p.294).
If my memory serves me correctly, there are publications about the finds of Lucanus cervus in the Tula region (I recommend contacting Lavr Bolshakov about them).


Can I give you a full quote from the" Red Book of the Tula Region", with the authors, year and pages? Thank you.

13.08.2014 10:16, Victor Titov

Can I give you a full quote from the" Red Book of the Tula Region", with the authors, year and pages? Thank you.

Red Data Book of the Kaluga Region, here you can download:
http://book.tr200.net/v.php?id=1841095
http://mirknig.com/knigi/nauchno_popularno...oy-oblasti.html
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13.08.2014 10:19, Dmitry Vlasov

KK Tula did not find, there are indications of finds in the article
Yu. V. Dorofeev, L. V. Bolshakov Lamellar coleoptera of the Tula region. 2. Families Lucanidae, Bolboceratidae, Trogidae (Coleoptera: Scarabaeoidea) / / Eversmannia. Entomological research in Russia and neighboring regions. Issue 13-14. 1. VI. 2008: 35-40
http://eversmannia.entomology.ru/eversmannia_13-14_35.pdf
And a quote from not:
" 2. Lucanus cervus (Linnaeus, 1758)
[Nikitsky et al., 1996; Bolshakov, 1999; Dorofeev, 2007]
Western Palaearctic (up to the Middle Urals — Lower Volga region, Western Caucasus
) subboreal species.
In the region, it is known from isolated finds in the twentieth century, some of which are obvious random
drifts (in particular, in the urban landscape of Tula). According to N. B. Nikitsky (personal communication),
he saw 1 specimen found in the middle of the twentieth century in Tula zasekah; on this basis, the species was
mentioned for the region in the first of the citations. Probably , it is listed in the Red Data Book of the Russian Federation (Korotyaev, 2001) (
as well as in a number of regional Red Data Books). In ZMMU, in the materials on cotton wool, there is a 1+ with the label
"Tula. zas. Aug. 1945" (D. Panfilov). In the modern period, it was observed in nature, probably
only in the memorial and protected areas of the Yasnaya Polyana Museum-Reserve: 54, 30.06.1973, 1>
(V. Dmitriev); 56, 07.1987, 1> (m. Nesterenko), and 1.07.1991, 1> (Yu.Dorofeev). It is found in old
deciduous forests dominated by oak-the main food plant of larvae.
(Note that there are some discrepancies in the documentation and literature regarding
these findings. The first copy was kept in the first collection until the end of the 1980s
S. A. Ryabova( later mostly lost): L. V. Bolshakov recorded in his
database the inscription on the label in a simple pencil "Oblique Mountain 30.06.1973", the beetle was found
by an employee of TSPI V. Dmitriev (taken still alive in the specified village from local
children). Some naturalists reported" from memory " other years of this find. The next
copy was given by L. V. Bolshakov [1999] with the date "1981", reported by M. R. Nesterenko
"from memory". Its label was checked by Yu. V. Dorofeev, but we still have doubts
about the accuracy of dating, since M. R. Nesterenko did not always label
his collections in a timely manner. The third copy was given by L. V. Bolshakov [2001] with the date "1992", reported
by Yu.V. Dorofeev, probably from one of the labels from student fees of unknown
origin. As a result, this year was groundlessly cited in a number of other works (Dorofeev, 2007;
Svetasheva et al., 2007).
On the northern border of its range in the middle zone of European Russia, the species
has become virtually extinct over the past 20-40 years. In the modern period, it has been reliably recorded from isolated
finds also in the Kaluga (Alekseev and Tarasov, 2006) and Lipetsk (Tsurikov, 1997)
regions. In the south-west of the Orel region, it was noted as very rare only in the early twentieth century. [Belyaev, 1923],
and in the south-east of the Ryazan region — according to the data not given [Nikitsky et al., 1996]. Relatively
dense local populations of the species are now found no further north than the Kursk (
Grechanichenko and Tatarenko, 2001), Voronezh (Negrobov et al., 2005), and Penza (Polumordvinov
and Monakhov,2005) regions.
The species was proposed for inclusion in the Red Book of the Tula region [Dorofeev and Nesterenko,
2001], and then included in the consolidated list under category 0-1 [Bolshakov et al., 2007]; according to the
new system [Bolshakov, 2007], it is estimated by us as an almost extinct local
and very rare species in the region. 0-1a — CR A4cd; B1b (iv); C1; E ver.3.1 / 3.0 — CC RF-2."

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13.08.2014 10:21, Victor Titov

Here's another one I found: http://eversmannia.entomology.ru/eversmannia_13-14_35.pdf
P.S. Elizar slightly outperformed smile.gif

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 13.08.2014 10: 22
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13.08.2014 11:35, Лавр Большаков

Everything has changed little since our publication. Morlovia has been added to the list of regions where the modern northern border of the deer beetle's range passes. There are no confirmations for the Ryazan region - this is another bluff from Nikitsky.
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13.08.2014 11:36, Лавр Большаков

I'm sorry, Mordovia. In the Ryazan region, I say because their next CC was published in 13, and there this type is absent.
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14.08.2014 11:59, kalistrat

I'll add a little from myself. If anyone is interested. The only place where today you can catch a deer beetle in Udmurtia is the Alnashsky district. Baiteryakovo, old Ekaterininsky highway.

Pictures:
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19.06.2016 10:07, Ghoul

Hello, I live in Saratov I want to find a deer beetle for photos, but yesterday I was looking, I live near the forest 10 minutes walk Frunzensky district, and when I went up to the forest higher there is an oak strip I searched ,and found only a small head and a pronotum and that's it ! can someone from Saratov or just tell me where in our districts you can find this chulo nature ?Vzranee spasibo

21.05.2019 22:04, Genri

Hello. Can you tell me who exactly caught a "Deer" in Bashkiria? And in what area?

23.05.2019 21:25, СаняМухолов

Hello. Can you tell me who exactly caught a "Deer" in Bashkiria? And in what area?

On Nugush at the end of July 2017. Accordingly, Meleuzovsky district.

24.05.2019 22:09, Genri

On Nugush at the end of July 2017. Accordingly, Meleuzovsky district.

Thank You

13.06.2019 0:00, Nikolos

Good afternoon
Will it be possible to find male deer beetles in early July, for example, in the Voronezh region ? Won't it be too late?

14.06.2019 17:01, СаняМухолов

Good afternoon
Will it be possible to find male deer beetles in early July, for example, in the Voronezh region ? Won't it be too late?

I think the only option is to go and try to catch.

16.06.2019 15:03, stierlyz

Well, if we have a lot of them at the beginning of July, then in the more northern regions they should be even more so!
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28.06.2019 9:23, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

Where to find a deer beetle in Tsimlyansky district?

04.07.2019 8:04, Decticus

At the end of June, I found a deer beetle in Bolshoy Utrish, Krasnodar Territory.
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