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25.09.2006 20:04, Tigran Oganesov

Ohh... ok I will sort out the shelves, the later the average temperature starts to drop steadily -> later cool nights and mornings come -> more active insects -> Male praying mantis are also more active -> Less chance of being eaten by a female.
Why don't you take into account the activity of females? You build a theory based on a single "northern" species, while dismissing all other "southern" representatives. This is absurd.

25.09.2006 22:20, Sparrow

Actually the dependence on latitude was discussed (only for Winter) For tropical areas, other factors work, including an increased number of fertilized eggs with increased work of the abdominal ganglion, etc .)

What kind of monitoring?. just at least 3 experienced people confirm the presence of such a thing, this is enough) I didn't monitor it.. I only recreated the southern conditions at home; B

The activity of females has nothing to do with it at all.... 0_o. Will it affect anything?)

25.09.2006 22:48, Tigran Oganesov

Actually the dependence on latitude was discussed (only for Winter) For tropical areas, other factors work, including an increased number of fertilized eggs with increased work of the abdominal ganglion, etc .)
Why only tropical ones? It's the same for winter, and it's the same for our southern species. Moreover, the size of the ootheca also depends on whether the female ate before, after or during fertilization.

25.09.2006 23:15, Sparrow

If you want monitoring, you can do it. If there are professional biologists who claim the presence of such populations - apparently it has already been conducted, you can repeat it or call to find out where the material came from... your business. How much for tropical ones? Because there are more species there, and someone eats someone not, Creobroters do not eat for example, some species eat, there are biological features of species in the world of which there are a huge variety...

The activity of the female does not mean anything as I say, because the relative activity of the female is EQUAL to the relative activity of the male from the same population, which means that the chances are equalized, I do not see any reasons for it to differ if the conditions are equal, learn to match....

This post was edited by Sparrow - 09/25/2006 23: 19

25.09.2006 23:33, Tigran Oganesov

If you want monitoring, you can do it. If there are professional biologists who claim the presence of such populations - apparently it has already been conducted, you can repeat it or call to find out where the material came from... your business.
Apparently? That's what I call an unsubstantiated claim. I haven't heard of this before, and I'd be happy if I see the links.

25.09.2006 23:49, Sparrow

I gave the link... link to Alexander Ognev... no one has published this material on the Internet, you can find his book if necessary.. I have quoted exactly, in any case, the rest was all received in words..

Especially liked about the size and build.. "If dolphins had fur, they would have fleas." Bolivar... well, what does this have to do with a? We take a relative value, the activity of a female and a male in one population differs from their activity in another population due to the fact that the conditions are different, but in general their ratio (activity) remains the same, because within the population the conditions are the same. Math-proportions, school course....

I can feel the argument slipping into complete delirium.. I pass, the page will bounce-post, and then pass...

26.09.2006 0:04, Tigran Oganesov

I gave the link... link to Alexander Ognev... no one has published this material on the Internet, you can find his book if necessary.. I have quoted exactly, in any case, the rest was all received in words..
Let's start with the fact that A. Ognev is a herpetologist, and the book you mentioned is a popular literature on the content of myths. What kind of research can we talk about?

26.09.2006 0:07, Sparrow

And ... I understand, do you mean why, all other things being equal, we take into account the male and the female is not? Let me explain... the mantis is an ambush predator, and if the males are still somewhat active, the females are usually very sedentary, and after mating they will not catch up with the male, but how far the male will go depends on his activity...

I compared exactly Relative Activity, which means the ratio of male activity to female activity in different populations - which is approximately the same....

True, Ognev is a herpetologist, but the book is not written by him alone, there is a decent list of cellmates on writing......

This post was edited by Sparrow-26.09.2006 00: 10

26.09.2006 0:14, Tigran Oganesov

The mantis is an ambush predator, and if the males are still somewhat active, the females are usually very sedentary, and after mating they will not catch up with the male, but how far the male will go depends on his activity...
That's for sure, it won't work. Therefore, the problem is in a careful approach, deftly jumping on the back of the female and then jumping off. Read the article, even the introduction, it's well written.

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