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07.06.2010 14:04, vasiliy-feoktistov

In the Ivanovo region,in the last two years (2009 and 2010), burdocks also met (and still meet) often, in some places even en masse.And in 2008, it wasn't at all.What caused such a sharp increase in population is not clear. confused.gif

I think this is due to the fact that in its essence it is not our butterfly, but a migrant from warmer climes, and its number depends on the favorable weather conditions for the flight. Moreover, the migrant is apparently a flock (as I saw yesterday).

08.06.2010 7:40, mikee

I think this is due to the fact that in its essence it is not our butterfly, but a migrant from warmer climes, and its number depends on the favorable weather conditions for the flight. Moreover, the migrant is apparently a flock (as I saw yesterday).

I think that this new generation has flown, thanks to a very warm May. In the Ryazan region, there is a simultaneous outbreak of V. cardui and A. urticae, and the vast majority of butterflies are absolutely fresh, but among them (cardui) there are also completely burnt and torn ones. The latter are the spring migrants.

08.06.2010 8:06, vasiliy-feoktistov

I think that this new generation has flown, thanks to a very warm May. In the Ryazan region, there is a simultaneous outbreak of V. cardui and A. urticae, and the vast majority of butterflies are absolutely fresh, but among them (cardui) there are also completely burnt and torn ones. The latter are the spring migrants.

Tornfresh and in my case somewhere 50-50. But why all together and on one "patch"? I just usually observe it separately confused.gif

08.06.2010 8:52, mikee

Tornfresh and in my case somewhere 50-50. But why all together and on one "patch"? I just usually watch it separately confused.gif

Flowers are still scarce, so they concentrate where they are.
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10.06.2010 2:36, А.Й.Элез

Stale burdock met on the Batkovskoe swamp on June 10 of this year, in the peat bog itself.

30.06.2012 9:34, borov

In the last decade of June 2012 in Mariupol and the city's environs, a massive flight of the previously rare nymphalis xanthamelas was observed. June 24 on the territory of the city-everywhere and a lot. On June 28, in the steppe on a lone willow, I counted 6 specimens.
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30.06.2012 11:02, Egorus

This is probably the "wave of life"... It's the same in Melitopol. It's been a massive year for two weeks now. And in the Melitopol district. Before that, one copy of 2003.And even before that, around the 70s, and then, perhaps then there was polychloros.
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30.06.2012 19:18, Wave Storm

In the last decade of June 2012 in Mariupol and the city's environs, a massive flight of the previously rare nymphalis xanthamelas was observed. June 24 on the territory of the city-everywhere and a lot. On June 28, in the steppe on a lone willow, I counted 6 specimens.
This is probably the "wave of life"... It's the same in Melitopol. It's been a massive year for two weeks now. And in the Melitopol district. Before that, one copy of 2003.And even before that, around the 70s, and then, perhaps then there was polychloros.
Good luck to you guys. Where do you find them? I seem to live on the banks of the Dnieper, and there are willows there, and flowers are planted, and today I have only seen Argynnis pandora and Pontia daplidice from butterflies on them. Or do you need to look for them not on flowers, but on damaged trees?

30.06.2012 20:19, Egorus

The uniqueness of the situation is that there was no need to search . As
Roman accurately wrote, there are many of them everywhere. But in urban conditions, it is difficult to catch.
Last Wednesday I tried to be on duty in the yard. The total time for the day is an hour and a half.
I've seen twenty flights. I even swung the net four times...
Caught on Thursday in an industrial area on the wall of a brick building.
A colleague was fishing in the countryside, in the garden on a pear tree. Late afternoon, several copies.
It's been overcast and cool for the last two days.
Yes, and in time, it's time for them to hide in the attics and bayushki-bye... smile.gif
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30.06.2012 21:33, borov

A week ago, in the yard on a cherry tree with unassembled and overripe fruits, 3-5 pcs flew in the crown constantly. To localize them, I smeared the trunk in a convenient place for fishing with what was at hand: banana mashed+50 g of vodka+ 50 g of rosehip syrup. As a result, even the seven-year-old son caught butterflies. Yes, and I took more than a dozen in a couple of hours.
Before that, one dead copy was found in 1999 and a dubious one in early May 2003.
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30.06.2012 23:48, okoem

In the last decade of June 2012 in Mariupol and the city's environs, a massive flight of the previously rare nymphalis xanthamelas was observed. June 24 on the territory of the city-everywhere and a lot. On June 28, in the steppe on a lone willow, I counted 6 specimens.

In the Crimea, the view has been observed since June 25. Up to six copies per day.
So far, the species has been known from 4 finds: 1881, 1918, 1953, and 1988.
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01.07.2012 0:14, Kharkovbut

In Kharkiv and the region, xanthomelas are not uncommon, but this year the numbers are exceptional, and in some places the species is observed in atypical biotopes and situations (for example, in the sandy steppe, feeding on thyme!). Mass growth did not begin immediately: the first specimen was recorded on June 8, and until the 3rd decade the number was normal (i.e. low). Then it started to pop. I think the migrants arrived (especially since in the first days of this "poperlo" there was a flight in the western direction - at least, it seemed so to me...shuffle.gif) .
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03.07.2012 13:20, feniks

On the weekend, on the way to the dacha (Dmitrovskoe highway), I observed an active season of either xanthomelas or polychloros, or maybe both. We flew strictly from east to west. There have never been so many of them before.
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04.07.2012 7:35, Сергей-Д

In our city, xanthomelas abruptly appeared on June 22 - for a 7-minute trip to lunch, I counted about 10 copies. I tried to catch them at the dacha , but only managed to catch 1 of them. But the next day I caught plenty of them - there were so many of them that the best way is to collect along the highway, where there are many stunned or caught in the air stream of cars on the roadsides, and at the same time whole. I drove in a diesel - in all localities you can see it from the windows, even on the sands. Along the rivers, 3-7 specimens sit on each lime puddle.
Now it occurs only once, 2 copies. saw it yesterday.
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04.07.2012 16:12, feniks

Caught a couple, looks like they really are xanthomelas, not polychloris.

04.07.2012 17:51, Zheka

A similar situation with Nymphalis xanthomelas is observed in the Odessa region. Butterflies actively fly to the wine bait, but feed only in the afternoon. Photos taken today in Kotovsk in the city on a private plot
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04.07.2012 20:29, Egorus

for Zheka
, butterflies are visible, but nails are not. Disorder. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
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04.07.2012 21:50, Zheka

for Zheka
, butterflies are visible, but nails are not. Disorder. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

So I only hammer nails into living trees, and this is just a wooden post smile.gif
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06.07.2012 10:31, Euchloron

The week before last, I poured sour wine on my plot (in Korolev). Approximately 50 Xanthomelas arrived. And they were so calm that they even allowed themselves to be taken in hand.
By the way, wow-album in Moose Island also flew in the spring in a large number, but now it is not yet visible.
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06.07.2012 11:41, butterFLYLINE

Please tell me: In the Moscow region in the Ruzsky district, I did not meet a single hawk moth either in this or in 2011 or in 2010. Maybe they should be looked for somehow - the last hawk moth I saw was an ocular one in 2008. How to lure them-I really want to bring them out!

06.07.2012 18:03, Euchloron

Hawkmoth is everywhere and there are many of them.
Ocular and poplar are found on willows and poplars. But to find them, you need some patience and perseverance. You just need to look at a few dozen willows and you will definitely find them. You need to look at the underside of the leaves. Now they are just easy to find in the form of eggs and caterpillars 1-3 years old. It is also easy to find linden also on linden trees. These species are often found even in the city.
It is very easy to find wine, proserpine and bedstraw trees in the ivan-chai glades. Wine varieties are currently found in large numbers in the form of small eggs and caterpillars. If you look at about 30 plants of ivan tea (you need to look at the underside of the leaf), but you will find almost certainly. Gus of bedstraw and proserpine should already be 3-5 years old, but they do not occur so regularly, but sometimes a lot. Porcelluses can also be found on the bedstraw. Even if you examine the trunks of pine trees, you can find imago of pine hawks. I recently found a pregnant female.
Please tell me: In the Moscow region in the Ruzsky district, I did not meet a single hawk moth either in this or in 2011 or in 2010. Maybe they should be looked for somehow - the last hawk moth I saw was an ocular one in 2008. How to lure them-I really want to bring them out!

06.07.2012 19:37, Bad Den

Please tell me: In the Moscow region in the Ruzsky district, I did not meet a single hawk moth either in this or in 2011 or in 2010. Maybe they should be looked for somehow - the last hawk moth I saw was an ocular one in 2008. How to lure them-I really want to bring them out!

The light is flying wonderfully

06.07.2012 22:07, Aaata

They fly to the light wonderfully

This year there are especially many of them. Including flying lilac, previously they were infrequent when fishing for light.

06.07.2012 22:13, Aaata

This year there are especially many of them. Including flying lilac, previously they were infrequent when fishing for light.

Just managed to say, another lilac hawk moth arrived, fresh.

07.07.2012 5:45, butterFLYLINE

Thank you very much!
I have another question:
In 2010, my inachis io had a wingspan of 4-6 (!) cm
Per 30 pupae in 2010, only 10-20 individuals could fly.
In 2012, I have just (still dry jump.gif)30 pieces were taken out (all that was found)
Their wingspan is 2.5-4 cm
But out of 30 the wings are normally (at first glance) spread 29 out of 30
How do you think this is due? confused.gif

This post was edited by butterFLYLINE - 07.07.2012 06: 12

02.08.2012 19:54, Wave Storm

I definitely saw Xanthomelas alone in mid-July. And in the last decade of June, I also definitely saw him, but I didn't pay much attention to it.
And in recent days, our city has seen an increase in the number of Thistles. That's just in the evening in a flower bed near the house counted at least 6 pieces. I saw two copies yesterday morning.


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02.08.2012 21:16, AGG

Xanthomelas simply flooded the Black Earth region! now it has already flown away, only the "poor" ones remain . before that, ~ 15 years were isolated in the old forests. but polychlorus disappeared, although every spring on sap-bearing birches, in winter in attics, in dachas-it was possible to collect buckets. I haven't seen any mourning women in 7 years, but this year there are a lot of them. you need to make spacing at least in Excel for each view and watch the dynamics. ripple however..

31.08.2012 22:35, Kharkovbut

In the vicinity of Kharkiv, the number of nymphalids is zero these days... The next (wintering) io and c-album generations are not observed... Yes, there are not many butterflies at all compared to the standards at this time, but I don't remember this; at the end of August, they are always full in the corresponding biotopes. I wonder what's going on in other regions?

31.08.2012 23:27, Hierophis

Kharkovbut, we also don't have many butterflies this season, but we have a strong drought, and you had a drought?

31.08.2012 23:52, Kharkovbut

I was, but of course...

01.09.2012 0:15, okoem

Crimea, August, Nymphalids:
Vanessa atalanta - 1 pc
. Vanessa cardui-may have come across a few, I don't remember.
Melitaea cinxia-I think I came across a couple of pieces at the beginning of the month, I didn't write it down, I may be wrong.
Melitaea phoebe - several pieces.
Argynnis pandora-common.
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Total, of the nymphalids, in fact, only Pandora.
From other diaries mainly Icarus, phleas, yurtina, Pamphilus, Edusa, Proto.
In general, I would not say that there are significantly fewer diaries than always. But the nocturnal ones - the mismatched ones-were gone...
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01.09.2012 0:35, Kharkovbut

By the way, we don't have Pandoras either. (Although I haven't been to the south of the region in the 2nd half of the summer-they may be there.) There was a lot of fanfare - more than the average. There was a small (and already flying away) 3rd generation of levana - however, it happens in all recent years. But in general, there are few daytime butterflies in the 2nd half of summer, and especially few nymphalids. Pigeons are still going back and forth. But, by the way, this year the 2nd generation of semiargus was not marked (probably, our climate is approaching the Crimean one...smile.gif), vikrams - this has not happened in recent years.

01.09.2012 8:31, Penzyak

In the Penza region in August, in different years, I observed an interesting fact in hantomelus, peacock's eye and urticaria-completely fresh butterflies were crammed into hard-to-reach places (attics, tree hollows, caves) clearly already for wintering!!?

09.09.2012 17:26, Wave Storm

In our country, pandora is now found on cultivated flowers, in principle, not infrequently, but still less often than a week and a half ago, admirals and burdocks are not visible. Today in the steppe I met several draughtsmen-Didima and this one:

Shashechnitsa.jpgWho is this anyway, Phoebe?

09.09.2012 18:04, Wave Storm

I'm surprised I didn't recognize her. They are usually lighter.

06.11.2012 10:56, mergus

In the early summer of this year,in Udmurtia,the vicinity of Izhevsk, there was a migration of xanthomelas simply amazing in terms of the number of individuals,and urticaria also moved with them in smaller numbers.The main direction of the flight was on the ZSZ.And also the territory was affected by a massive invasion of hawthorns.
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19.07.2013 22:48, KM2200

I read the topic, I will insert my 5 kopecks.
I have been photographing butterflies in Kiev and the surrounding area for about 10 years in my spare time.
I have met N. xanthomelas, there are always a lot of thistles, but I have never seen mourning birds!
Either we don't have them at all, or you need to know the places confused.gif

19.07.2013 23:40, Wave Storm

Th-that this year the invasion of xanthomelas in the south of Ukraine was not. At least I only saw one in April, and not one in the summer.

Of the nymphalids, most often I meet draughtsmen. In the spring, at the beginning of May, tsinksias flew en masse, smaller trivias, and later many more Phoebus and didymus. It's less crowded now, and I haven't seen Tsinksii in the summer yet.

And so,
01.07 - 2 phoebes, 2 didyms, 2-3 trivia;
06.07-on wet areas all of the above. Quite a lot.
15.07-1 didyma on the chalk slopes;
18.07-a couple of thistles on the sand, 1 admiral in the park;
19.07-somewhere 4 didyma, a couple of Phoebus.

Checkers fly locally in places where there is a lot of greenery. In semi-dry or dry places, they are not present.

This post was edited by Wave Storm - 07/19/2013 23: 50

20.07.2013 0:34, KM2200

And we have just a lot of them this year, xanthomelas. Here:
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24.07.2013 1:16, okoem

Th-that this year the invasion of xanthomelas in the south of Ukraine was not. At least I only saw one in April, and not one in the summer.

In Crimea, in April, they were quite common. I haven't seen it since...
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