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29.07.2015 2:34, Андреас

- Then, I suspect that these ones, taken by me in the early spring (25.03.2014) under a stone in the forest-steppe, also belong to the genus Lasius?

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29.07.2015 5:22, ИНО

Yes. Either Lasius flavus (Fabricius, 1782) or someone from the subgenus Chthonolasius. There are many species of the latter, which are difficult to distinguish even by their specimens. Flavus differs from them well not not in this photo. Sorry.
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29.07.2015 9:27, TimK

  

In addition, in the monograph of Dlussky (1967), the area of pure cunicularia is quite far from the Stavropol Territory (as I understand it, the photo is from there?).


Personally, I think it is better to look at the areas in Radchenko's works with Poles. I don't have a more recent work, but the earlier one (2002) is here:
http://antvid.org/PDF/Lit/Czechowski_et_al...of%20Poland.pdf
There, the ranges of many species are well shown and the information is more recent.

I also have good photos of the female and male cunicularia:
http://antvid.org/Gal1/Formicinae/Formica%...ria%20foto.html
I shot them alive, then let them go.
If you need hairs, you have to kill them. For example, here is a photo of camponotus from the Krasnoyarsk Territory, which I can't identify in any way. Can you try?

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29.07.2015 11:13, geo

June, Ukraine

Bombus lapidarius?

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29.07.2015 17:05, ИНО

Personally, I think it is better to look at the areas in Radchenko's works with Poles. I don't have a more recent work, but the earlier one (2002) is here:
http://antvid.org/PDF/Lit/Czechowski_et_al...of%20Poland.pdf
There, the ranges of many species are well shown and the information is more recent.

Thank you. For cunicularia, there are practically no changes in comparison with the data of Dlussky, if we take into account that in the Polish monograph the areas of the subspecies F. C. s. str. and F. c. fuscoides are not delineated on the map. So it should be understood that the entire shaded area in the Caucasus is precisely fuscoides, which, according to Dlussky, does not descend below 1500 m above sea level. And my intuition tells me that the uterus of this subspecies is even darker than pure cunicularia. In any case, the Stavropol Territory is not included in its range, as well as in the range of the nominative subspecies, which ends very far in the west and north. So, in my humble opinion, cunicularia should be removed from the list of "prime suspects". And there is nothing about subpilosa, because it is not found in Poland. And the areas are all described in detail only for Poland. So this book will be much more useful to the Poles than to us. It would be better if Alexander Grigoryevich muddied a similar thing for Ukraine.

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29.07.2015 19:27, TimK

Thank you. For cunicularia, there are practically no changes in comparison with the data of Dlussky, if we take into account that in the Polish monograph the areas of the subspecies F. C. s. str. and F. c. fuscoides are not delineated on the map. So it should be understood that the entire shaded area in the Caucasus is precisely fuscoides, which, according to Dlussky, does not descend below 1500 m above sea level. And my intuition tells me that the uterus of this subspecies is even darker than pure cunicularia. In any case, the Stavropol Territory is not included in its range, as well as in the range of the nominative subspecies, which ends very far in the west and north. So, in my humble opinion, cunicularia should be removed from the list of "prime suspects". And there is nothing about subpilosa, because it is not found in Poland. And the areas are all described in detail only for Poland. So this book will be much more useful to the Poles than to us. It would be better if Alexander Grigoryevich muddied a similar thing for Ukraine.


You can guess as you like. I'm not involved in this. I wrote that a subgenus of serviformics. And then there are several possible types. I don't know what kind. If you want, guess. You can't tell for sure from this photo anyway. And many thanks to Alexander Grigoryevich for pointing out the areas of Russia in general in the book "Ants of Poland". The Poles, I think, were not interested in this. But how interesting we are! I am very grateful to him.
Will there be any suggestions on camponotus?
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29.07.2015 21:28, ИНО

As for the ranges, for other ants, yes, but for the formics of Dlussky it is much more detailed. And since ' 67, almost nothing has changed on this front. I am more grateful to Alexander Grigoryevich for his work on ants in Ukraine. But it is a pity that he did not write such a consolidated monograph, as in co-authorship with the Poles. For example, it was possible in the series "Fauna of Ukraine and neighboring states", if it, of course, will continue to be published. Agree, it would be very nice.

In the Krasnoyarsk Territory, I pass. But there is a strong premonition that the Polish monograph will not help here, we need to look for specific keys, either in Siberia or throughout the Palearctic. I didn't have to do that.
June, Ukraine
Bombus lapidarius?

Not necessarily, there are several other options. Where exactly does the photo come from? Ukraine is a big country and the bumblebee fauna in the north and south differs dramatically. All I can say for sure is that it's definitely not a cuckoo.

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30.07.2015 3:53, akulich-sibiria

If you need hairs, you have to kill them. For example, here is a photo of camponotus from the Krasnoyarsk Territory, which I can't identify in any way. Can you try?
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Did you catch them yourself in the Krasnoyarsk Territory? wink.gif
His ants caught in the Krasnoyarsk Territory at one time gave to a local specialist Dmitrienko V. K.

30.07.2015 10:01, geo

 
Not necessarily, there are several other options. Where exactly does the photo come from? Ukraine is a big country and the bumblebee fauna in the north and south differs dramatically. All I can say for sure is that it's definitely not a cuckoo.


North-East Ukraine

30.07.2015 10:41, алекс 2611

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30.07.2015 20:26, ИНО

Then it's too bad: there are more species of very similar red-ass bumblebees in the north. I'm afraid it's a lost cause without a copy.
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31.07.2015 6:55, TimK

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31.07.2015 7:09, TimK

As for the ranges, for other ants, yes, but for the formics of Dlussky it is much more detailed. And since ' 67, almost nothing has changed on this front.


That's the trouble. The ranges are very conditional. And beyond the Urals, in general, "floor-ceiling". And if there are ants in some area, then most likely they are also in the neighboring one, just in the area they are not yet marked. Because no one has yet written a scientific article about the discovery of this species in this area. And without it, these ants are not there for science. Even if the Internet is full of photos of this species from this area. And all continue to be equal to the areas of 50 years ago. Gennady Mikhailovich has left and we no longer have specialists of this level. Alas! In terms of ants and their habitats, the territory of Russia is poorly studied. It is not a fact that there is no cuniculary in the Stavropol Territory. I caught ants in the vicinity of Anapa, which, no matter how hard I tried , I could not distinguish from the cunicularia of the Moscow region. And the hairs were counted under a microscope and the color was compared...
A camponotus from the Krasnoyarsk Territory was sent to me by mail. Multiple instances.
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31.07.2015 13:59, AVA

Thanks! With the first surprised - and what explains such a dark color?
I suspected about the third one, but there were doubts.

VM


It is explained by variations. So everything is fine with the coloring. Almost typical. They can be even darker, almost indistinguishable from Vespula vulgaris.

31.07.2015 14:15, AVA

Good day, identify the wasp if possible, north of Vologda, today, in a burrow on the trunk of an old birch tree, carried a fly, sps


Самка Ectemnius (Hypocrabro) continuus (Fabricius, 1804) [Hymenoptera, Apoidea, Crabronidae]
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31.07.2015 14:19, AVA

The insect looks like a bee, but is at least 25 mm larger. Completely black. It arrives on Monarda.


Carpenter bee-Xylocopa valga Gerstaecker, 1872

31.07.2015 15:40, ИНО

That's the trouble. The ranges are very conditional. And beyond the Urals, in general, "floor-ceiling". And if there are ants in some area, then most likely they are also in the neighboring one, just in the area they are not yet marked. Because no one has yet written a scientific article about the discovery of this species in this area. And without it, these ants are not there for science. Even if the Internet is full of photos of this species from this area. And all continue to be equal to the areas of 50 years ago. Gennady Mikhailovich has left and we no longer have specialists of this level. Alas! In terms of ants and their habitats, the territory of Russia is poorly studied. It is not a fact that there is no cuniculary in the Stavropol Territory. I caught ants in the vicinity of Anapa, which, no matter how hard I tried , I could not distinguish from the cunicularia of the Moscow region. And the hairs were counted under a microscope and the color was compared...
A camponotus from the Krasnoyarsk Territory was sent to me by mail. Multiple instances.

Well, I don't know, in terms of cunicularia and glauca, everything is perfectly consistent with the latest works of Ukrainian entomologists. Here the range of rufibarbis appeared on our territory a little wider. In general, judging by the number of publications, the forms of Europe in terms of faunistics have been studied very closely, and they continue to be studied just as closely to this day. I've never been interested in the Urals. In theory, the expanses are huge, there are few researchers-probably really solid white spots.

In Anapa, obviously, there may well be a form of fuscoides. It is no longer even classified as a subspecies. So you probably identified everything correctly (but it never hurts to show instances to a specialist just in case). However, Stavropol Territory is very different in landscape and geographical terms from the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus. And the fauna differs accordingly. I do not argue, not the fact that there is no cunicularia. In general, to prove that there is no such thing somewhere is practically impossible from the point of view of formal logic. You can only reliably prove that there is a species somewhere. Therefore, we have to resort to the theory of probability. I consider the probability that Andreas ' picture shows a cuniculary to be very small compared to the other options I have listed. That's my point of view so far.
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31.07.2015 19:30, TimK

I consider the probability that Andreas ' picture shows a cuniculary to be very small compared to the other options I have listed. That's my point of view so far.


Well, here I also think that rufibarbis has the most chances, but I don't rule out other options...
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31.07.2015 21:35, OEV

Hello everyone This year, in June, I caught an interesting spheroid, the body size is about 15 mm. Place of capture central Kazakhstan, Karaganda region.

It became very interesting, I dug a little, if I was not mistaken, the genus Palarus is possible variegatus smile.gif

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01.08.2015 2:50, AVA

Hello everyone This year, in June, I caught an interesting spheroid, the body size is about 15 mm. Place of capture central Kazakhstan, Karaganda region.

It became very interesting, I dug a little, if I was not mistaken, the genus Palarus is possible variegatus smile.gif


That's right, it is.

01.08.2015 11:00, akulich-sibiria

Pasites maculatus female?
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04.08.2015 11:09, Nikel

Hello! From eggs (18 pcs) 21/07/15 Kislovodsk neighborhood, Narzanov Valley, 1 mm. Please identify it! Thanks!

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04.08.2015 20:25, RoPro

Please tell me who this Megachilidae is. Moscow region, August 2.

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04.08.2015 21:25, apismen

It seems that these are shestobits (Anthidium), but in the Moscow region, where exactly?

04.08.2015 21:44, RoPro

It seems that these are shestobits (Anthidium), but in the Moscow region, where exactly?

Out of habit, I wrote the Moscow region. In fact, it was filmed in Troparevsky Park in Moscow. I haven't been there for a long time and decided to take a walk.

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05.08.2015 12:46, Woodmen

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.
At least specify the family, if possible.

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05.08.2015 17:20, Кархарот

Anthidium is similar to florentinum.

05.08.2015 20:41, ermak1969

I flew into the apartment and bit my wife.pain like a wasp sting.red bump at the bite site.the insect is slightly less than 2 cm long. orange-red.four-winged.proboscis 1.5 cm.Novosibirsk.

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05.08.2015 20:42, Скорпион

I flew into the apartment and bit my wife.pain like a wasp sting.red bump at the bite site.the insect is slightly less than 2 cm long. orange-red.four-winged.proboscis 1.5 cm.Novosibirsk.

Some kind of rider. Nothing dangerous, it will hurt and pass.

05.08.2015 20:54, ermak1969

the rider seems to have a sting on his butt,but this thing has a sting sticking out of its head

05.08.2015 21:28, vafdog

the rider seems to have a sting on his butt,but this thing has one sticking out of its head

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from the head, the mustache is one, the second just broke off

05.08.2015 22:18, Fornax13

From Ophioninae should be. These can really sting.

05.08.2015 23:15, akulich-sibiria

Wife avenged, enemy beheaded lol.gif

06.08.2015 8:15, Bad Den

From Ophioninae should be. These can really sting.

Especially when they come to light en masse and fall by the scruff smile.gifof the neck

07.08.2015 12:03, MPN

Please help me determine the type of burrowing wasp.
The shooting location is Kiev. 24.07.2015. The size of the individual is not more than 10 mm.
Perhaps Cerceris quadricincta?

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08.08.2015 2:34, Андреас

Isn't it more like Cerceris quinquefasciata?

08.08.2015 13:49, akulich-sibiria

Cerceris rybyensis? previously caught females of this species did not have such a reduced pattern on their tergites. One of the three captured females has lateral spots on the fifth tergite, and all on the 2nd tergite have two spots at the base.
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08.08.2015 14:37, AVA

Cerceris rybyensis? previously caught females of this species did not have such a reduced pattern on their tergites. One of the three captured females has lateral spots on the fifth tergite, and all on the 2nd tergite have two spots at the base.


That's the one. And the main thing here is not the degree of reduction of the light pattern on the abdomen (this is a frequent phenomenon in both directions), but the muzzle of the face, more precisely, the platypus pressed in front and half its length.

08.08.2015 14:46, akulich-sibiria

That's the one. And the main thing here is not the degree of reduction of the light pattern on the abdomen (this is a frequent phenomenon in both directions), but the muzzle of the face, more precisely, the platypus pressed in front and half its length.


Yes, yes, I noticed that too. But I decided to check just in case! Thanks! wink.gif

08.08.2015 14:47, AVA

Please help me determine the type of burrowing wasp.
The shooting location is Kiev. 24.07.2015. The size of the individual is not more than 10 mm.
Perhaps Cerceris quadricincta?


Males (and in the picture it is the male) of Cerceris are difficult to determine from the pictures. They "work" signs of pubescence of the antennae, the last sternites of the abdomen, less often the platypus.
In my opinion, by the signs of coloration of the antennae and legs, this specimen is more similar to Cerceris arenaria.

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