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30.08.2015 15:13, ИНО

25-is it really hot? We'd like a couple of drops of rain in a month. Let's go back to the desert slowly.

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30.08.2015 16:07, алекс 2611

Alexey, we have a heat wave of 25 almost the whole week, although the nights are already coldwink.gif, come to us in Siberia, we are warm )))


Now only next year smile.gif

30.08.2015 17:53, akulich-sibiria

25-is it really hot? We'd like a couple of drops of rain in a month. Let's go back to the desert slowly.



Well, provided that we should already have frosts, then yes wink.gif
Summer in Siberia is short, you can say June-July, then you can already dry the paddles, but this year the weather is frankly pleasing. If it weren't for family troubles, I would have collected a little more flying and crawling material smile.gif

30.08.2015 20:53, ИНО

I just heard that in summer in Siberia 40 is normal - a sharply continental climate.

31.08.2015 0:00, Proctos

What about the Formica moth?

31.08.2015 4:09, akulich-sibiria

I just heard that in summer in Siberia 40 is normal - a sharply continental climate.


Well, Siberia is a stretchable concept, however, like Siberia itself. West, East..south, north...In Norilsk, it can already throw snow, and in Khakassia they can still swim. I can just tell you that the week +25 for Siberia in late August and early September is warm )))
and +40 can change to 0 and say in June it will snow. Although as I understand it nature can do such things in the more southern and warmer regions of the Russian Federation

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01.09.2015 0:10, AVA

What about the Formica moth?


Hopeless, I suppose. They even have genetics "walking" inside the same nest. wink.gif

02.09.2015 20:20, dabl

Is it possible to determine? Karelia, August.

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03.09.2015 14:24, ИНО

Today, 03.09.2015. The rider came out of the Polistes dominula nest. Size 4 mm.

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I've never seen anything like this before, and I haven't seen anything like it in the literature about Polistov parasitoids in Europe. But I have just read that in other regions of the world, the larvae of polysts are parasitized by chalcidids of the genus Brachymeria Westwood, 1829. Or is it just a random guest hiding in the nest? The wasps had already left it about two weeks ago. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make micrographs until a couple of weeks later. What is the best way to keep it in alcohol?

This post was edited by ENO-03.09.2015 14: 24

03.09.2015 15:53, Кархарот

Yeah, just like chalcidides. It looks like Brachymeria, yes, maybe it is. But there may be other genera, from single bees, for example, I came out with similar Neochalcis.

03.09.2015 16:11, AVA

Today, 03.09.2015. The rider came out of the Polistes dominula nest. Size 4 mm.
What is the best way to keep it in alcohol?


Yes, in 70% of cases. So you can store it for years.

03.09.2015 16:36, ИНО

Thank you for your prompt response. I store 70% of all ants and eulopids, but this chalcidid is much larger. But since this is not a contraindication, I'll put her in the bottle as well. However, there was a problem: while deciding what to do with it, the animal went back to the nest. That's the biggest perennial. You couldn't lure them out with the light of the lamp, so now you'll have to look into each cell with a flashlight...

03.09.2015 18:11, AVA

Thank you for your prompt response. I store 70% of all ants and eulopids, but this chalcidid is much larger. But since this is not a contraindication, I'll put her in the bottle as well. However, there was a problem: while deciding what to do with it, the animal went back to the nest. That's the biggest perennial. You couldn't lure them out with the light of the lamp, so now you'll have to look into each cell with a flashlight...


Dimensions are not a problem. I periodically receive materials on Vespinae in this form. The main thing here is to maintain the concentration so that too strong alcohol does not lead to dehydration and deformation of the chest capsule. But the chalcides are strong enough to prevent this from happening.

By the way, did you try to "smoke out" the fugitive, otherwise he will run away? wink.gif
I mean, cover the honeycomb with a plastic bag with cotton wool soaked in some chloroform, etc. (it's easy for a smoker to let out smokewink.gif). Or is the nest difficult to access for such manipulations?

By the way, I was very intrigued by your comments about the" multi-year " nest of polists. Is it really multi-year, and the cells are reused for several seasons, or each new season the new founders added their cells to the old cell, not using the cells of previous seasons? confused.gif

03.09.2015 18:57, Кархарот


By the way, I was very intrigued by your comments about the" multi-year " nest of polists. Is it really multi-year, and the cells are reused for several seasons, or each new season the new founders added their cells to the old cell, not using the cells of previous seasons? confused.gif

Sorry to interrupt, but maybe this is interesting, too...
I have observed both possible cases. The first was with P. nimpha, and it was pretty shabby and small, about 4 cm in diameter. Wasps (several females) wintering near it settled it in the spring, repaired the torn cells, and sowed them with brood. And for P. dominula, I saw various large old nests, to which both fresh cells were added and old ones were used, but not in the entire nest, but in a small part of it, while most of it remained empty.

03.09.2015 19:48, ИНО

The runaway found itself fell out of the nest when I put the container with it on the end. and already in a half-dead state. Alcohol 70%, like, good, pharmacy, spiders in me in a similar it for years dest swim without changes. Ants, though only six months, but so far the flight is normal.

AVA, yes, that's right: the cells of the old nest (almost all of them) are reused, plus new ones are being completed. Such perennial nests are dominated by us in the order of the norm. I find at least one of them every year (despite the fact that I don't specifically set out to do this and don't look into every crevice on the way). The proportion of reused nests varies greatly over the years. As a rule, if there is good weather during the nest - laying period, it is less, if it is bad, it is more. In much more rare cases, there are not just perennial, but also multi-cell, stelocytic type, like in vespins, only without a shell. The aforementioned nest might well have been like this in a year or two, if someone hadn't torn it out. On the other hand, then I wouldn't have caught this strange little animal.

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03.09.2015 19:55, comprachicos

Good evening. Please define it. August, xinjiang. Mountains/steppes.
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2.Bembix rostrata?
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03.09.2015 21:57, TimK

Good evening. Please define it. August, xinjiang. Mountains/steppes.

Based on such photos? Are you kidding?
It looks like someone from the Myrmicinae is on the upper ones. Maybe from the Messor family (reapers).
Below is a black ant from the genus Camponotus.

03.09.2015 22:07, comprachicos

Based on such photos? Are you kidding?
It looks like someone from the Myrmicinae is on the upper ones. Maybe from the Messor family (reapers).
Below is a black ant from the genus Camponotus.


And what angle do ants need for successful detection? There are a few others that also seem to be worthless
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04.09.2015 1:46, AVA

2 Carcharot and ENO
Thank you so much for your comments on Polistes ' perennial nests. I will reflect and will definitely include this interesting information in my catalog.

04.09.2015 7:28, Пензуит

Please help me with the sawflies.

1. Tenthredo arcuata or Tenthredo notha?

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2. Very fine, probably no more than 5 mm

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04.09.2015 11:10, TimK

And what angle do ants need for successful detection? There are a few others that also seem to be worthless



Yes, it is a kind of Messor.
And to determine up to a species, you need someone who knows Chinese species. Here I pass.
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04.09.2015 18:56, Woodmen

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region. August 31.

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08.09.2015 20:46, Трофим

Good evening. Tell me about riders. Moldova. Chisinau
1) Rhyssa persuasoria 19.09.04
2)? VI 2002
3-4) ? (I assume female and male) Female - body 20 mm and wing also 20 mm. Male - body 15 mm, wing 15 mm.

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09.09.2015 19:08, Woodmen

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region. September 9.
Quite a big rider. Coelichneumon deliratorius?

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This post was edited by Woodmen - 09.09.2015 19: 19

09.09.2015 20:30, John-ST

Help us identify correspondence from Turkey.
Sakarya, Karasu
June 9-17

In the ants, I'm not in the tooth with my foot, I shoot on occasion, if possible, from such photos at least up to the genus.
1. A large ant of about 1 cm
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2. Also a healthy female
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3. Cataglyphis?
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4. Shiny ants with big-headed "soldiers"
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5. Some dark-haired Bembix?
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6. Small chrysis 5-6 mm, looks dense, stocky, from a distance similar to the Holopyga beetle?
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10.09.2015 10:55, TimK

Help us identify correspondence from Turkey.
Sakarya, Karasu
June 9-17

In the ants, I'm not in the tooth with my foot, I shoot on occasion, if possible, from such photos at least up to the genus.
1. Large ant about 1 cm

2. Also a healthy female

3. Cataglyphis?

4. Shiny ants with big-headed "soldiers"



Up to the genus can be.
1. The genus Formica is male.
2. Genus Formica, subgenus Serviformica female.
3. The genus Cataglyphis.
4. The Messor genus.
I can't even look at it. I don't know Turkish ants.
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11.09.2015 17:28, stierlyz

11.09.2015 17:32, OEV

Help us identify correspondence from Turkey.
Sakarya, Karasu
June 9-17
6. Small chrysid 5-6 mm, looks dense, stocky, from a distance similar to the Holopyga beetle?
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Assume Holopyga fervida (Fabricius, 1781), female wink.gif
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11.09.2015 17:33, Alexey Yabs

Is it possible to identify ground ants from Uzbekistan?
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11.09.2015 18:43, John-ST

Imho, it looks more like Crematogaster.

No, Crematogaster are small, their legs are short, there are spines on the posterior spine, the stalk is attached to the abdomen as if from the upper side, and not like normal ants from the lower side, and, as I understand it, the abdomen itself is also dorsally curved.
I myself was almost sure that it was some kind of Cataglyphis, rather characteristic ants, only before that I had never come across them in nature, so I posted it to clarify.

11.09.2015 19:47, алекс 2611

Is it possible to identify ground ants from Uzbekistan?

Yes, Messor again probably
According to the determinant of ants in Turkmenistan, you can also twist it. If there are ants.

11.09.2015 19:55, алекс 2611

No, Crematogaster are small, their legs are short, there are spines on the posterior spine, the stalk is attached to the abdomen as if from the upper side, and not like normal ants from the lower side, and, as I understand it, the abdomen itself is also dorsally curved.
I myself was almost sure that it was some kind of Cataglyphis, rather characteristic ants, only before that I had never come across them in nature, so I posted it to clarify.


Of course Cataglyphis

There are not so many of them in Turkey. Take a look here http://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Turkey
Illustrations are not bad
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11.09.2015 21:33, John-ST

Of course Cataglyphis

There are not so many of them in Turkey. Take a look here http://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Turkey
The illustrations are quite good

Thank you, I'll try to see it. I think I threw a couple of pieces on the mattresses, as a keepsake.

11.09.2015 22:11, алекс 2611

Thank you, I'll try to see it. I think I threw a couple of pieces on the mattresses, as a keepsake.



I also take this genus whenever possible. As well as messors and camponotuses. But not from Turkey. Mostly Central Asia

13.09.2015 15:56, AVA

Can I detect the OS? Uzbekistan, August


Polistes gallicus
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16.09.2015 10:24, Maksim M.

Help determine-1 Frolovsky district, Volgograd region, flew along the dunes, lake district.Lenovoe,June, 2013 Female-4 cm, male-2.2 cmpicture: IMG_6652.JPG

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16.09.2015 10:28, Maksim M.

2. Volgograd region, Mikhailovsky district, Archedinskaya station, floodplain of the Medveditsa River, sat on flowers together with scolias hirta.Only 2 pieces.Aug, 2015, 1.5-2cmpicture: IMG_6653.JPG.

16.09.2015 10:31, Maksim M.

3. flew to the steppe, Volgograd region, Frolovsky district, hut Shlyakhovsky district, June, 2013, length 4cmpicture: IMG_6655.JPG

16.09.2015 10:37, Maksim M.

4. Flew along the river cliffs, ran along burrows, Astr. obl, Enotaevsky district, OKR p Vetlyanka, floodplain, Aug 2011, female-4 cm, male-2 cmpicture: IMG_6651.JPG

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16.09.2015 10:46, Maksim M.

5. Sat on the flowers, together with sk.khirtami, total 2 pcs, length 3.3-3 cm, Volgograd region, Mikhailovsky district, floodplain of the Medveditsa river, Aug. 2015picture: IMG_6656.JPG

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