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07.10.2008 19:20, akulich-sibiria

I'm sorry for the fungusshuffle.gif, it just seemed that way to me, it probably all depends on the quality of the label - why don't you print them on your computer? I looked at your box with membranes under magnification and saw there the outlines of burrowing wasps, which are interesting to me, one is exactly Ammophila sabulosa the rest are very unclear frown.gif


it's okay wink.gif..and I posted a photo of the box with the membranes, just to show that I have everything there to hell smile.gif...I'll post you the views you specified a little later...and in addition to some...
and with the labels, I physically don't have enough time frown.gif...and another problem with the boxes, I can't order at least something worthwhile...from kozheedov already fighting off as I can frown.gif

07.10.2008 20:06, akulich-sibiria

If you need more specific parts, I can do it...here are a number of ammophiles and not only...
1.2. The second male of Ammophila sabulosa L.picture: IMG_5419_.jpg
picture: IMG_5420_.jpg
3. Male A. campestris or A. pubescens doubt picture: IMG_5421_.jpg
4. female A. pubescens Curt. picture: IMG_5422_.jpg
5. male A. affinis Kyrby picture: IMG_5423_.jpg
6. female Pemphredon rugifer wesmaeli picture: IMG_5424_.jpg
7. and more on zakosku smile.gif.I haven't tried to define it yet
picture: IMG_5425_.jpg, picture: IMG_5426_.jpg

1-4 were caught on sandy slopes in Khakassia, 5-from Tyva, 6-from Krasnoyarsk,
7-from Minusinsk, this is the south of the Krasnoyarsk Territory.All species are associated with fairly
dry sandy habitats
, there are a few philanthus heels hanging out here, do you have specialists on them?

08.10.2008 2:20, Konstantin Shorenko

regarding 1, 2 you are right, this is sabulosa, 3 habitually similar to campestris 4 habitually similar to pubescens 5 similar to affinis, Pemphredon I would say that lethifer well, 7-8 is Braconidae I write "habitually" based on the definition of "first glance" so to speak, I do not have a determinant at hand and I say by eye. But why did you decide that your Pemphredon is a rugifer-according to the trim? So it is easy to confuse it with lethifer and in general rugifer is not like that - it is smaller and narrower, and wesmaeli is generally a rarity. In short, I will not particularly disappoint you, especially since I do not have a determinant at the moment, but run Pemphredon again. By the way, what is your guide to burrowing wasps? with phyllanthus it is simple - they differ well, but we must remember that triangulum is a highly variable species. and think of a computer-generated set of labels, which will give the collection a more aesthetic look, otherwise they look like they were bombed smile.gif. and some of them are dirty - what do you do to them? And last of all, in 2 photos, the defining label dominates - this is not an order, such a label is always pinned down under the geographical one. Well, that's it now. smile.gif

08.10.2008 6:36, gumenuk

Taken on the territory of the Moscow region (Khripan)

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08.10.2008 11:05, vespabellicosus

In the first photo, judging by the brownish antennae of Polistes nimpha (Christ), there is a red spot on the edge of the anterior tergite-a tick?; in the second photo, a working individual of the Saxon wasp Dolichovespula saxonica (Fabricius); in the third photo, a male Polistes nimpha; in the last two, a common hornet Vespa crabro (Linnaeus), in the second photo, a working individual of the Saxon wasp Dolichovespula saxonica (Fabricius). the last one, apparently, is a female. Excellent photos. Sincerely.
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08.10.2008 11:19, gumenuk

In the first photo, judging by the brownish antennae of Polistes nimpha (Christ), there is a red spot on the edge of the anterior tergite-a tick?; in the second photo, a working individual of the Saxon wasp Dolichovespula saxonica (Fabricius); in the third photo, a male Polistes nimpha; in the last two, a common hornet Vespa crabro (Linnaeus), in the second photo, a working individual of the Saxon wasp Dolichovespula saxonica (Fabricius). the last one, apparently, is a female. Excellent photos. With respect.

Thanks for the full definitions. The first photo shows a tick on the back. And special thanks for praising-nice shuffle.gif smile.gif

08.10.2008 12:16, gumenuk

Bees. Taken in the south-east of the Moscow region.

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08.10.2008 13:42, akulich-sibiria

Bees. Taken in the south-east of the Moscow region.

and the first three aren't Apis melifera by any chance??honey bee smile.gif..no??

08.10.2008 13:47, gumenuk

and the first three aren't Apis melifera by any chance??honey bee smile.gif..no??

Yes, these are honeybees. But 1 and 3 are slightly different in my opinion. I'm not an expert, so I'm afraid of making a mistake when making my own determination.

08.10.2008 14:10, akulich-sibiria

regarding 1, 2 you are right, this is sabulosa, 3 habitually similar to campestris 4 habitually similar to pubescens 5 similar to affinis, Pemphredon I would say that lethifer well, 7-8 is Braconidae I write "habitually" based on the definition of "first glance" so to speak, I do not have a determinant at hand and I say by eye. But why did you decide that your Pemphredon is a rugifer-according to the trim? So it is easy to confuse it with lethifer and in general rugifer is not like that - it is smaller and narrower, and wesmaeli is generally a rarity. In short, I will not particularly disappoint you, especially since I do not have a determinant at the moment, but run Pemphredon again. By the way, what is your guide to burrowing wasps? with phyllanthus it is simple - they differ well, but we must remember that triangulum is a highly variable species. and think of a computer-generated set of labels, which will give the collection a more aesthetic look, otherwise they look like they were bombed smile.gif. and some of them are dirty - what do you do to them? And last of all, in 2 photos, the defining label dominates - this is not an order, such a label is always pinned down under the geographical one. Well, that's it now. smile.gif

I completely agree with you on all your comments!!!!
You need to scold me more often, it's just that the collections are quite old, and the collection is so working, and I really have nowhere to store frown.gifit ..and I bombed them myself, I shift them constantly...there are few opportunities to add to the collection right now, so you have to work with what you have... smile.gif They probably have more dust on them...here I will make boxes, then I will try to do everything thoroughly. and I called them the remains of an American insecticide...left with an unpaired silkworm, please advise what is best suited for these purposes, I understand, there is a lot of information, but what is better from your experience...I know about labels, it's just more convenient for me to navigate myself
for ammophilus thank you very much...and I will run Pemphredon again, taking into account your comments. I have nothing special - I sometimes use green and the Far East.What about the Braconidae?any chances??
Braconidae

08.10.2008 14:22, akulich-sibiria

for Alex, 2611...today I made all the photos and descriptions as you asked, but here is a piece of paper with a description of bees, I forgot at work, I will hang them tomorrow))

08.10.2008 17:14, akulich-sibiria

a little bit about philanthropies..I apologize in advance for the state of the collection material.
1. Philanthus coronatus F. male picture: IMG_5427_.jpg
2. Ph. venustus Rossi or Ph. triangulum male picture: IMG_5429_.jpg
3. Ph. triangulum female picture: IMG_5430_.jpg
4. Ph. helmanni Eversm. Male picture: IMG_5431_.jpg
5. I don't really know that much... shuffle.gif picture: IMG_5433_.jpg
picture: IMG_5432_.jpg
6. and here is another wasp, Palarus variegatus F. female picture: IMG_5435_.jpg

10.10.2008 18:19, akulich-sibiria

I ran Pemphredon again..I don't know, of course I don't know much about them, but by signs I'm back on rugifer..and most likely wesmaeli..well, the first one is of course the trim, with a very deep cut..in green, it is indicated that for P. lethifer, if there is a notch, then it is of a different nature and inconspicuous... (unfortunately, it is difficult to take the casing in the camerafrown.gif), also the structure of the intermediate segment, it is rough-wrinkled,
picture: P3290146_.jpg
for P. lethifer..it is noted that the dotted line is rather smoothed. as well as the pygidial field, it is narrow and rather sharply separated by elevated edges (I really did not understand what the keel is on the pygidial field, and it is somehow strangely shown in the figure)...of course, it would be easier to compare, it's a pity with nothing...

This post was edited by akulich-sibiria - 10.10.2008 18: 20

11.10.2008 13:08, алекс 2611

If you need more specific parts, I can do it...here are a number of ammophiles and not only...
1.2. The second male of Ammophila sabulosa L.picture: IMG_5419_.jpg
picture: IMG_5420_.jpg
3. Male A. campestris or A. pubescens doubt picture: IMG_5421_.jpg
4. female A. pubescens Curt. picture: IMG_5422_.jpg
5. male A. affinis Kyrby picture: IMG_5423_.jpg
6. female Pemphredon rugifer wesmaeli picture: IMG_5424_.jpg
7. and more on zakosku smile.gif.I haven't tried to define it yet
picture: IMG_5425_.jpg, picture: IMG_5426_.jpg

1-4 were caught on sandy slopes in Khakassia, 5-from Tyva, 6-from Krasnoyarsk,
7-from Minusinsk, this is the south of the Krasnoyarsk Territory.All species are associated with fairly
dry sandy habitats
, there are a few philanthus heels hanging out here, do you have specialists on them?


I would venture to assume that number 7 is a chalcid from the genus Chalcis. Before the view-alas.

11.10.2008 13:19, алекс 2611

Bees. Taken in the south-east of the Moscow region.

As far as I understand, the first three photos are all Apis mellifera.
Photo 4 reminds me of the bee Epeoloides coecutiens. Parasite in bees of the genus Macropis. It's a pity you can't really see the venation of the wing and abdomen. If I could see it, I'd say it for sure.
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11.10.2008 14:14, gumenuk

As far as I understand, the first three photos are all Apis mellifera.
Photo 4 reminds me of the bee Epeoloides coecutiens. Parasite in bees of the genus Macropis. It's a pity you can't really see the venation of the wing and abdomen. If I could see it, I'd say it for sure.

I looked at other pictures of this bee - everything was taken from above, the view is similar.
I'll probably put up a couple more pictures of bees, and then I'll go to bumblebee

11.10.2008 18:13, gumenuk

These bees are hard to pinpoint. The weep.gifvideo was taken in the South-east of the Moscow region

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11.10.2008 20:03, akulich-sibiria

in general, of course, I wonder how you can determine the pereponov like this from the photo, sometimes you twist an insect under binoculars and you can't see the signs...
I can just estimate from my fees that 3 is probably Halictus sp. some kind, I have more than 10 species
and 2 is something from Megachile leaf cutters...
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11.10.2008 20:41, akulich-sibiria

all from Khakassia...
1. Halictus quadricinctus female picture: IMG_5448_.jpg
2. Megachile..A female with a problem view came out on argentata F....but not all the signs are clear picture: IMG_5449_.jpg
3. in general, I do not know what kind of genus from Helictidae that is..can someone help
picture: IMG_5454_.jpg

11.10.2008 20:53, Konstantin Shorenko

a little bit about philanthropies..

Yes, in principle, I am ready to agree with you about all the philanthropies, only there are two triangulums most likely. About this strange with a red base of the abdomen, I can't say right now, I don't know this kind of thing and I can't say I haven't seen this in ZINA or ZMMU, I need to determine. Pemphredon is determined primarily by the platelet-this is the main feature, the rest are additional, more blurred. I also worked with them for a long time - you need a good extensive series of different types, then you quickly understand what's what. And the palarus you correctly identified is variegatus. As for staining - I use ethyl acetate, it can be used quite successfully if you are not afraid of liver cancer. There is a universal and simple pickler-gasolinelol.gif, it burns well, but it makes insects stale and you still need to work with it accurately - it will be bad for the wasp. The green determinant is good in principle, you can use it, Pulavsky has stuffed all the types in a row, even hypothetical ones, and that's right! smile.gif Then Alex said that 7-8 is not Braconidae and Chalcidae confused.gifI'm certainly not a specialist, but it seems to me that I'm closer to the truth wink.gif
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11.10.2008 21:00, алекс 2611

all from Khakassia...
1. Halictus quadricinctus female [attachmentid ()=49766]
2. Megachile..A female with a problem view came out on argentata F....but not all the signs are clear [attachmentid ()=49767]
3. in general, I do not know what kind of genus from Helictidae that is..can anyone help
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I completely agree with your previous message - it is simply not serious to determine bees from photos to species .... for large genera like Halictus, Andrena, Megachile or Osmia.
Therefore, photos 1 and 2 agree with your definition of pre-gender. Just one question. Forgive me for my stupidity, but the megahila from photo 2 is definitely a female? Not a male?
Photo 3 most likely a male from the genus Rophitoides

P.S.
Did you see my comment that your "braconid" from the previous photo is actually most likely a chalcid?

This post was edited by alex 2611-10/11/2008 21: 01

11.10.2008 21:08, алекс 2611

These bees are hard to pinpoint. The weep.gifvideo was taken in the South-east of the Moscow region

photo 1 megachilid from the genus Hoplitis
photo 2 genus Megachile
photos 3 And 4 some halicts.
I can only get to the view by looking at the material.
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11.10.2008 21:11, akulich-sibiria

yes, I saw it, but here they express doubts about this family, I will try to double-check it myself using the keys))

11.10.2008 21:21, алекс 2611

) Here Alex said that 7-8 is not Braconidae and Chalcidae confused.gifI'm certainly not a specialist, but it seems to me that I'm closer to the truth wink.gif


I made only one mistake-I wrote the name of the family from memory and wrote it incorrectly. You should write Chalcididae.
And so this is 90 percent of chalcidide. I have never seen a braconid with such wing venation. Braconids that have front wings without a single closed cell? I don't believe it!
And the extended hind thighs are also just like chalcidides. If the size is 7-8 millimeters, then probably the genus Chalcis.

This post was edited by alex 2611-10/11/2008 21: 26
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11.10.2008 21:31, akulich-sibiria

Yes, in principle, I am ready to agree with you about all the philanthropies, only there are two triangulums most likely. About this strange with a red base of the abdomen, I can't say right now, I don't know this kind of thing and I can't say I haven't seen this in ZINA or ZMMU, I need to determine. Pemphredon is determined primarily by the platelet-this is the main feature, the rest are additional, more blurred. I also worked with them for a long time - you need a good extensive series of different types, then you quickly understand what's what. And the palarus you correctly identified is variegatus. As for staining - I use ethyl acetate, it can be used quite successfully if you are not afraid of liver cancer. There is a universal and simple pickler-gasolinelol.gif, it burns well, but it makes insects stale and you still need to work with it accurately - it will be bad for the wasp. The green determinant is good in principle, you can use it, Pulavsky has stuffed all the types in a row, even hypothetical ones, and that's right! smile.gif Then Alex said that 7-8 is not Braconidae and Chalcidae confused.gifI'm certainly not a specialist, but it seems to me that I'm closer to the truth wink.gif

well, it was interesting to myself what kind of animal with a red belly it is))..well, I will leave Pemphredon so far, although I will try to take a special picture of the platband for you!!..it's like the picture in green!!!..very deeply cut

11.10.2008 22:02, akulich-sibiria

for alex 2611, here's something about those andren females....
1. picture: P3280135_.jpg
srednespinka pubescent with thick hairs, finely and densely dotted, the scutellum is also densely pubescent with light hairs, weakly shining.the gap.the segment is matt, rather smooth without rough and sharp seams, as if finely cellular. Tergites are slightly glassy.
picture: P3280131_.jpg
The platband is slightly feathered with large rare dots, matt. The lower legs are dark brown at the base, reddish with light hairs towards the apex.
I don't remember the structure of the antennae, the first segment is a flagellum??..if it is considered for the 1st segment of the antennae, then the 3rd segment is 2 times larger than the 2nd. from the 4th segment, they are the same, almost equal in length and width
in green, reaching A. chrysopyga..but it doesn't fit...

2.picture: P3280136_.jpg
picture: P3280137_.jpg
the platypus is shagreen, without a longitudinal stripe with rare dots, the face is
slaboblestyaschee the 3rd segment is 1.5 times larger than the 4th, and 2.5 times larger than the 2nd
. the lower legs of the hind legs are brown, slightly lighter towards the top.
picture: P3280138_.jpg
Shagreen tergites, medium-back matte with rather large shallow and rare dots. The top of the flap is slightly shiny. The gap.move the segment to the center.parts slightly cellular-wrinkled
in green reached teza 145 (144)

the question is, what are scaly hairs? are they not pressed to the body??

11.10.2008 22:36, akulich-sibiria

[color=blue]a little more on oss...
1. khakassia Eumenes coranatus female
picture: IMG_5456_.jpg
2. Khakassia Eumenes pedunculatus male
picture: IMG_5457_.jpg
3. I don't even know where it comes from, the records are buried somewhere far away Eucmenes mongolicus male
picture: IMG_5458_.jpg
I found two operating systems that are terribly similar in appearance, but once defined as completely different types
of 4. also Khakassia Euodinerus disconotatus male
picture: IMG_5460_.jpg
5. Pseudepipona herichii female
picture: IMG_5459_.jpg

11.10.2008 22:43, akulich-sibiria

for alex 2611, you may be a male, I've already forgotten everything, I'll check it out at work))...

12.10.2008 12:12, gumenuk

1. I do not understand bumblebees redface.gifat all, so I will post everything in a row (selected by the similarity of the picture). There will be about 20 photos in total.
All taken in the South-east of the Moscow region

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13.10.2008 10:25, алекс 2611

for Alex 2611, here's something about those andren females....?


Be sure to carefully twist your andren. I promise to answer something within a week.

13.10.2008 10:48, алекс 2611

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13.10.2008 11:07, алекс 2611

1. I do not understand bumblebees redface.gifat all, so I will post everything in a row (selected by the similarity of the picture). There will be about 20 photos in total.
All taken in the South-east of the Moscow region



Purely frivolous assumptions. Not a serious definition, but rather information for further reflection:
5-Psithyrus silvestris
1 - Bombus lucorum
2-as if not the same Bombus lucorum only male
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13.10.2008 11:19, алекс 2611

I looked at other pictures of this bee - everything was taken from above, the view is similar.


I compared it with my existing copies, compared it...
You can sign-this is Epeoloides coecutiens.
By 90 percent...
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13.10.2008 13:22, gumenuk

2. I do not understand bumblebees at all, so I will post everything in a row (selected by the similarity of the picture). Another batch. In the previous one, photos 3 and 4 remain undefined.
All taken in the South-east of the Moscow region

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13.10.2008 16:20, akulich-sibiria

This is very difficult to explain. I've suffered terribly with it myself. Still, I think the only option is to catch more fish. When there are a dozen types of andren in the collections, it is very difficult to determine. There is nothing to compare it with and it is difficult to understand many of the signs. Here I have more than 70 European andren species and almost all the signs are visible and understandable.
Here I look at Andrena curvungula - it's very difficult to confuse it. The scaly hairs on the mid-spine fit snugly to the body and differ well from normal hairs on other parts of the body. But for example, in Andrena rufizona, these hairs are much less noticeable and there may be problems with flying specimens - these hairs may not be noticed. But one thing is for sure - these hairs fit snugly to the body and do not lag behind to the sides.
I'll repeat it. If you want to understand the magical world of Andren-from the month of April, take the net in your hands and catch, catch and catch...

16.10.2008 16:28, Alexander Zarodov

I got to my epaulettes, fortunately I don't have many of them (I didn't take many photos, keeping in mind the difficulties of determining smile.gifthem ). I hope for help!

Here even with the family I find it difficult... MO, the beginning of May.

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16.10.2008 17:01, алекс 2611

I got to my epaulettes, fortunately I don't have many of them (I didn't take many photos, keeping in mind the difficulties of determining smile.gifthem ). I hope for help!

Here even with the family I find it difficult... MO, the beginning of May.

picture: per05031.jpg


Pompilidae wasp like the usual Anoplius viaticus
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16.10.2008 18:50, akulich-sibiria

I don't know much about oss, but I totally agree with Alex 2611
PS..according to my oss, who will have thread considerations??..I am particularly interested in the last two

16.10.2008 20:16, алекс 2611

17.10.2008 13:31, Alexander Zarodov

More eardrums. All from the Moscow Region.

1.? a small wasp
picture: per05101.jpg

2. Is it possible to view the list before?

picture: per10041.jpg

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3. Osmium sp.?

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This post was edited by Double A - 10/17/2008 14: 29

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