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19.08.2008 19:39, Mylabris

On top, someone from vespids (most likely Vespa is), on the bottom - a sawfly, like from tentredinids.
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19.08.2008 20:38, алекс 2611

Can you tell me what kind of beauties on goldenrod (August, Moscow region):


Above is a fold-winged wasp from the genus Polystes.
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20.08.2008 10:48, Tigran Oganesov

Top is definitely Polistes
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21.08.2008 8:06, Светка

This is what was seen in the Eastern Sayan (July). Tell me, experts, who is this?

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21.08.2008 9:42, Mylabris

One of the sawyers.

21.08.2008 13:36, Vabrus

I can't agree.
shuffle.gif On the second - horntail big coniferous-Urocerus gigas, or some very close to it, you never know what there in the Sayan smile.gif confused.gif)

This post was edited by Vabrus - 24.08.2008 23: 19

21.08.2008 15:14, пигидий

Gentlemen,
I've been accosted by a lad with betilids from the center.Poland. The pictures are lousy, but he's a nice boy - who can I send him to with this case? or is there someone who will help you? Thank you in advance

http://www.efotogaleria.pl/index.php?m=1154&ktore=2254 6 mm 2008-07-14
http://www.efotogaleria.pl/index.php?m=1154&ktore=2358 4 mm 2008-08-15

This post was edited by pygidiy - 08/21/2008 15: 35

21.08.2008 20:37, Proctos

It seems to me that this is a representative of the family Bethylidae. Sclerochroa, Cephalanomia, Proscleroderma или Bethylus.

It is a rider of the genus Coptera of the family Diapriidae (Proctotrupoidea). A huge genus distributed mainly in the tropics. We have about 10-15 species. A parasite of various diptera species, recently attempts have been made to use them as bioagents for pest control of fruit orchards (South America, Africa).
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21.08.2008 21:04, пигидий

who is it?

Horntails -- Xeris ?spectrum & U. ?gigas
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21.08.2008 21:08, пигидий

... august, Moscow region

sawfly -- Athalia rosae

24.08.2008 22:18, IchMan

Can you tell me what her (his) name is? July of this year, Rostov district, Yaroslavl region.
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Bravo, Alex 2611, the skill is growing! This is really a representative of the n / a family. Ichneumoninae, namely the genus Ichneumon , is the typical coloration of males of this large and complex genus. More precisely, it is simply impossible to say from the photo, God forbid to determine the males alive...
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24.08.2008 22:20, IchMan

It seems to me that this is a representative of the family Bethylidae. Sclerochroa, Cephalanomia, Proscleroderma или Bethylus.

In the photo, not betilida, but diapriida, something from Psilus - Coptera
Sorry, I didn't see that Proctos has already commented on this definition

This post was edited by IchMan - 08/24/2008 22: 25
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24.08.2008 22:37, Андреас

- Please tell me the names of this bumblebee:
(in July at the KMV on Mount Mashuk)

This post was edited by Andreas - 25.08.2008 13: 05

24.08.2008 23:02, IchMan

I can't agree.
The first picture shows a rider from the Ichneumonids. And on the second one-the big coniferous horntail-Urocerus gigas, or some very close species, you never know what there is in the Sayan smile.gif  confused.gif)

And I can't agree with you - take a closer look at the venation. What a rider from the Ichneumonids ...
Both animals are horn-tailed, but what is possible in the Sayan Mountains should be compared with the list (Zhelokhovtsev, Zinoviev 1996), which I do not have. Urocerus color is not the same, not European wink.gif
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24.08.2008 23:21, Vabrus

to IchMan
Yes, you are absolutely right. Pygidius has already corrected me. I stepped on something there...

24.08.2008 23:58, IchMan

to NakaRB
on photo 06 (from 22.07) representative of the family. Ichneumoninae (family Ichneumonidae), a female
By the way, recently experienced that large females can sting quite sensitively with their ovipositor. Before that, when I used to grab them with my hands, this did not happen, but Amblyjoppa proteus (a parasite of hawks, reaches 27 mm), somewhat similar to this rider, managed to "treat" me, although I collected it for this wink.gifAnd the pain passed quickly, no consequences, comparable to road wasps and bumblebees.
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25.08.2008 8:21, алекс 2611

to NakaRB
on photo 06 (from 22.07) representative of the family. Ichneumoninae (family Ichneumonidae), a female
By the way, recently experienced that large females can sting quite sensitively with their ovipositor. Before that, when I used to grab them with my hands, this did not happen, but Amblyjoppa proteus (a parasite of hawks, reaches 27 mm), somewhat similar to this rider, managed to "treat" me, although I collected it for this wink.gifAnd the pain passed quickly, no consequences, comparable to road wasps and bumblebees.


This year I found that rather small females can also sting quite sensitively. In April, under the bark, I found about a dozen wintering riders (no more than 10 mm long), boldly caught them with my hand and was stung sensationally. Even let go of surprise. Her little sister went to the collection.
I was shocked by such" behavior " on the part of the rider.
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25.08.2008 8:41, KingSnake

Tell me, what kind of wasp?

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25.08.2008 12:30, IchMan

What is the sawfly, Cimbex femorata?

It is the most
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25.08.2008 21:23, IchMan

Tell me, what kind of wasp?

Yes sort of like Vespula vulgaris L. I wish I could look at her face and see her mandibles...
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25.08.2008 21:31, IchMan

This year I found that rather small females can also sting quite sensitively. In April, under the bark, I found about a dozen wintering riders (no more than 10 mm long), boldly caught them with my hand and was stung sensationally. Even let go of surprise. Her little sister went to the collection.
I was shocked by such" behavior " on the part of the rider.

I guess I was lucky with them before, or maybe I was just a little more careful when I moved them to the staining area. And often just in the exhausterwith flowers they sucked, without touching their hands. As far as I met with wintering females, they were all ichneumonins.
Well, I'll be more careful with them now. They have a short ovipositor, and such surprises can not be expected from the" long-tailed " ones.

26.08.2008 18:55, KingSnake

Yes sort of like Vespula vulgaris L. I wish I could look at her face and see her mandibles...


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27.08.2008 11:03, Tigran Oganesov

But this is a completely different wasp - Polistes sp.
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27.08.2008 11:14, алекс 2611

But this is a completely different wasp - Polistes sp.

I thought I was in trouble. It immediately seemed that these were two different wasps...

28.08.2008 7:28, KingSnake

But this is a completely different wasp - Polistes sp.

Stop! How is it different? Did you click the same one? Although I do not understand them, there may be another one. Here are two more photos of the same OS. Or is it just one view?

P.S. How do they differ, except for the color of the mustache?

This post was edited by KingSnake - 28.08.2008 07: 31

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28.08.2008 11:43, IchMan

From what can be seen in the photos - the pubescence of the body, the shape of the first segment of the metasome (abdomen) and the intermediate segment, the color of the platypus and mandibles.
On the new frames, there are 2 views again. And check the time of shooting-probably still not taken in a row 2 types of os?

28.08.2008 14:03, KingSnake

From what can be seen in the photos - the pubescence of the body, the shape of the first segment of the metasome (abdomen) and the intermediate segment, the color of the platypus and mandibles.
On the new frames, there are 2 views again. And check the time of shooting-probably still not taken in a row 2 types of OS?

Indeed, they differ. Where do my eyes go eek.gif?
Yes, these are the two views that I posted earlier. From a different angle. It can help you determine the location. The difference in shooting between them is 10 minutes, and at this time flies were shooting shuffle.gif

29.08.2008 13:54, Buzman

Can you tell me if this is Scolia bimaculata? Crimea.

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29.08.2008 18:28, алекс 2611

Can you tell me if this is Scolia bimaculata? Crimea.


Maybe still Scolia maculata?
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31.08.2008 8:09, Montarano

This wasp was photographed on a ferula inflorescence on May 08, 2008 in the Kokbulak River Gorge (Boroldaitau, Southern Kazakhstan). An Internet search for photos turned up nothing. You never know who has seen something like this...

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31.08.2008 11:46, amara

Right here
http://www.insectimages.org/browse/familyimages.cfm?id=518
234 photos from this family. Although it may not be there either (I haven't looked at it yet).

And here is a photo of Vespa orientalis:
http://www.biolib.cz/en/image/id22939/
http://www.vespa-crabro.de/oriental-hornet.htm
Doesn't look like it?

This post was edited by amara - 08/31/2008 12: 10
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31.08.2008 13:28, алекс 2611

Right here
http://www.insectimages.org/browse/familyimages.cfm?id=518
234 photos from this family. Although it may not be there either (I haven't looked at it yet).

And here is a photo of Vespa orientalis:
http://www.biolib.cz/en/image/id22939/
http://www.vespa-crabro.de/oriental-hornet.htm
Doesn't look like it?



Maybe really Vespa orientalis? I have several similar copies from Turkmenistan-signed as Vespa orientalis.
But I know vespid of Central Asia very poorly - it may well be a mistake. In addition, I read somewhere that orientalis are not found in Kazakhstan.

31.08.2008 13:49, amara

31.08.2008 22:24, Konstantin Shorenko

Yes of course Scolia maculata, female
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01.09.2008 7:16, Ekos

Please help me identify the sawfly and sphecida. Both are from the vicinity of Khabarovsk. The body length of the burrowing wasp is 14 mm, and that of the sawfly is 21 mm.

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01.09.2008 14:19, Динусик

Please help me determine the rider.

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02.09.2008 18:29, Montarano

  
And here is a photo of Vespa orientalis:
http://www.biolib.cz/en/image/id22939/
http://www.vespa-crabro.de/oriental-hornet.htm
Doesn't look like it?


It is very similar, especially in the first link, and the place where it was photographed with a reserve is included in the range. The survey point is located several hundred kilometers - by eye at this scale-south of the northern border of the range. This wasp was encountered only once, I did not observe it again.

02.09.2008 18:59, алекс 2611

Please help me identify the sawfly and sphecida. Both are from the vicinity of Khabarovsk. The body length of the burrowing wasp is 14 mm, and that of the sawfly is 21 mm.


And the first wasp is definitely a sphecid? Not pompilida?
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02.09.2008 19:03, алекс 2611

It is very similar, especially in the first link, and the place where it was photographed with a reserve is included in the range. The survey point is located several hundred kilometers - by eye at this scale-south of the northern border of the range. This wasp was encountered only once, I did not observe it again.



I once saw the range of this wasp on a map with state borders. It wasn't on that map in Kazakhstan. I was very surprised, as I myself fished in Turkmenistan not so far from the Kazakh border. That's why I remember it.
However, now the habitat boundaries of many insects are shifting to the north.
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02.09.2008 21:32, IchMan

And the first wasp is definitely a sphecid? Not pompilida?

So it seems to me that this is more of a pompilida. The spiked lower legs, whiskers, venation, and characteristic darkening of the wings speak in favor of this. It would also be nice to see her face...
And the sawfly - according to the sharply limited dark border on the wing feathers, it should be Cimbex femorata, however, in the material that I have from the NW of the country, the hind legs are black, and the whiskers are yellow. However, nothing is said about this color in the key and it may vary.

This post was edited by IchMan - 02.09.2008 21: 42
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