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25.02.2010 16:24, алекс 2611

Can you help me with the bee?" Moscow region, June, 8 mm.

Anyone from the Megachilidae?


I'm probably not stupid.
Maybe some Osmia?
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25.02.2010 16:25, Alexander Zarodov

For some reason, I don't want to call this bee megahilina at all...
Some kind of Eucera???? I don't understand....
Oh, more photos, from different angles...


There are no other photos shuffle.gif

By the way, yes. On Eucera sp. also similar...

25.02.2010 16:28, Alexander Zarodov

I'm probably not stupid.
Maybe some Osmia?


The last segment of the paw with a pad between the claws! So, after all, Osmia?
His eyes are green and dotted. I've never seen one like this before smile.gif

This post was edited by Double A-02/25/2010 16: 41

25.02.2010 18:52, алекс 2611

I don't know, damn it!
It really pisses me off, but I still can't figure it out.
It doesn't allow you to write something in megahilids...
I reviewed the collection, at least more than fifty megahilids from the European part of the former USSR. It doesn't look like it.
I would still put it in some anthophorides, since nothing else fits except Eucera, and I don't remember any suitable types of eucera 8 mm long...

25.02.2010 19:49, akulich-sibiria

Andrena, the female. The length is 15 mm, the wingspan is 26 mm. Photo 1 The middle back is pubescent with rusty hairs (thick).
Middle gap field. The skin is gently wrinkled.
The abdomen is slightly pubescent, with black hairs. Photo 2
Anal fringe in dark hairs.
The hind legs are black, and the hairs are also black. Photo 6
The dotted line of the 1st tergite is weaker (more tender) and less frequent than on others, especially on the top. There are black hairs on the sides of the 1st tergite. photo 8
Breast from the bottom with dark hairs. Red hairs from the sides go down behind the shoulder mounds (like this). Photo 3
The spurs of the hind legs are dark. Photo 6
The vertex parts of tergites are less often dotted and shagreen. Photo 7
was caught in Krasnoyarsk, on a lumbago. 11.05.09.
I think it's a female A. thoracica F. (but for this species, it is said that red hairs do not descend below the shoulder mounds. (That's my question).
my spurs are black.
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25.02.2010 19:53, akulich-sibiria

I found another female like the one I already sent you. That it's not A.vaga I already understood. Still, I think it's gallica, do you have a photo to compare it with thoracica?
Unlike the latter (I have about 5 pieces with red pubescence marked as thoracica), this pubescence of the mid-back is lighter, dirty white-yellow or something . It's hard to find the right word. Mid-spine and scutellum are more roughly shagged. It is clearly seen that the 1st tergite is rougher shagreen, the points on it are rarer and smaller. 2nd tergite is more shagreen (especially on the base)
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25.02.2010 21:02, Alexander Zarodov

I don't know, damn it!
It really pisses me off, but I still can't figure it out.
It doesn't allow you to write something in megahilids...
I reviewed the collection, at least more than fifty megahilids from the European part of the former USSR. It doesn't look like it.
I would still put it in some anthophorides, since nothing else fits except Eucera, and I don't remember any suitable types of eucera 8 mm long...


What about Tetralonia or Tetraloniella?

This post was edited by Double A-02/25/2010 21: 45

26.02.2010 1:24, Dr. Niko

Can you help me with the bee?" Moscow region, June, 8 mm.

Anyone from the Megachilidae?


Apparently yes. Of course, I don't pretend to compete with Alex, but I also became interested in bee and searched the Web and books. In general, I put on Osmia (Helicosmia) aurulenta or O. (Melanosmia) xanthomelana shuffle.gif
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26.02.2010 1:33, алекс 2611

Andrena, the female. The length is 15 mm, the wingspan is 26 mm. Photo 1 The middle back is pubescent with rusty hairs (thick).
Middle gap field. The skin is gently wrinkled.
The abdomen is slightly pubescent, with black hairs. Photo 2
Anal fringe in dark hairs.
The hind legs are black, and the hairs are also black. Photo 6
The dotted line of the 1st tergite is weaker (more tender) and less frequent than on others, especially on the top. There are black hairs on the sides of the 1st tergite. photo 8
Breast from the bottom with dark hairs. Red hairs from the sides go down behind the shoulder mounds (like this). Photo 3
The spurs of the hind legs are dark. Photo 6
The vertex parts of tergites are less often dotted and shagreen. Photo 7
was caught in Krasnoyarsk, on a lumbago. 11.05.09.
I think it's a female A. thoracica F. (but for this species, it is said that red hairs do not descend below the shoulder mounds. (That's my question).
my spurs are black.


I would call this bee Andrena gallica, and the lower one is neither gallica nor thoracica
of any other species.
But it makes sense to remember that this is all purely amateur reasoning. shuffle.gif

26.02.2010 1:55, алекс 2611

Apparently yes. Of course, I don't pretend to compete with Alex, but I also became interested in bee and searched the Web and books. In general, I put on Osmia (Helicosmia) aurulenta or O. (Melanosmia) xanthomelana shuffle.gif

There is only one thing that confuses me - these species are not on the list of bees in the Moscow region. There is an abstract of the dissertation of LEVCHENKO
Timofey Viktorovich (2010) on the web, it contains a list of bees in the Moscow region.
And these species are not included in the list of bees that are found in the areas adjacent to the Moscow region and which can be found in the Moscow region.
Daya himself intelligently understand that this is Osmia, but something does not allow it to be called so.

I was not too lazy, climbed in and got a megahilid - well, yes, it looks like aurulenta, but I don't have xanthomelana. In recent years, southern bees have been steadily moving north, so..... Although LEVCHENKO's dissertation is dated 2010...
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26.02.2010 1:58, алекс 2611

What about Tetralonia or Tetraloniella?


The bee in the photo seems to have two radiomedial cells in the front wing.
These genera have three.
It doesn't fit.
There's not much choice, probably megachilid and probably osmium...
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26.02.2010 2:47, Dr. Niko

In recent years, southern bees have been steadily moving north, so..... Although LEVCHENKO's dissertation is dated 2010...

I think I found the right answer (though not without help) - Trachusa byssina (Panzer, 1798). This species is present in Levchenko (first encountered!) and these are summer forms (June photo). And osmia are common in the spring, like.
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26.02.2010 6:59, akulich-sibiria

I would call this bee Andrena gallica, and the lower one is neither gallica nor thoracica
of any other species.
But it makes sense to remember that this is all purely amateur reasoning. shuffle.gif


well, that's not clear to me either, it seems like with a red pubescence just called me thoracica, but the lower one is still not clear to me absolutely...........We will search for it.
Alesk, there are photos of Chrysolina variants I have here a group voosche not podyemnyh for me leaf eaters...Something all in one person

26.02.2010 10:44, Alexander Zarodov

I think I found the right answer (though not without help) - Trachusa byssina (Panzer, 1798). This species is present in Levchenko (first encountered!) and these are summer forms (June photo). And osmias are common in the spring, it seems.


Yes, I found her photos online - very similar! By the way, it was shot in the west of the region, so views from the Smolensk or Kaluga regions may well penetrate there.
Special thanks to everyone for the link to Levchenko's dissertation smile.gif

This post was edited by Double A-26.02.2010 11: 04

26.02.2010 13:26, Alexander Zarodov

Here is another membrane, suspicion fell on Pamphiliidae. Is it possible to get to the species somehow, or at least to the genus? shuffle.gif

MO, mid-June, 8-10 mm approximately.

Pictures:
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26.02.2010 13:45, алекс 2611

well, that's not clear to me either, it seems like with a red pubescence just called me thoracica, but the lower one is still not clear to me absolutely...........We will search for it.
Alesk, there are photos of Chrysolina variants I have here a group voosche not podyemnyh for me leaf eaters...They all look the same

Well, the lower andrena is definitely not gallica and not thoracica
From the photo I am not able to. Immediately there are dozens of questions, I want to see, twist...
And I'm already confused about the top one.
My collection clearly shows that there are two types and according to the definition tables they are clearly divided into gallica and thoracica
Specimens only from the south of European Russia and from Ukraine.
Haven't you watched "Fauna of Ukraine" on the Andras? It seems that in the Plantago library
there are complete descriptions of species, although in Ukrainian. And gallica there is a subspecies of the species Andrena assimilis

I'm just beginning to understand leaf eaters myself. And from the photo, it's definitely an inaccessible art for me.

26.02.2010 13:50, алекс 2611

I think I found the right answer (though not without help) - Trachusa byssina (Panzer, 1798). This species is present in Levchenko (first encountered!) and these are summer forms (June photo). And osmias are common in the spring, it seems.

Yeah, now it looks like it.
I don't have this view, so I didn't understand.
Oh, if only one of the Muscovites could catch a few copies...

I must say that among the osmias there are many summer species...

26.02.2010 14:26, Papaver

I will try to pull up the forum, as it happened with Oleg Gorbunov (Lepidoptera, Sesiidae), and Timofey Levchenko (Hymenoptera, Apoidea).
Timofey on Monday defended the fauna and ecology of bees in the Moscow region. And after that...
By the way, we wish him good luck!
And the corresponding section of the "green" (Determinant of insects of the European part of the USSR, III vol., I ch., 1978), unfortunately, is very incomplete, and, in some places, morally outdated...

26.02.2010 14:49, Guest

Yes, everything will be fine with Timofey, wrote him a review from a leading organization, one of the opponents A. P. Rasnitsyn, who also did not find any special crime in the work, so protection is a matter of technique.
Of course, the determinants are outdated (and sometimes immediately after they are put into print), and the definition of the photo is generally mostly from the evil one, so I do not participate in this process. Besides, what's the point? Well, someone will put a label with the name under the copy in their box and then what, it is unclear... And the discussion of specific features, when this specimen belongs to another genus or even family, touches me at all...

26.02.2010 14:55, Papaver

Yes, it is clear that everything will be fine. I also wrote him a review...
Yes, I agree, I agree... But I think Timofey will also be interested in tea - for some reason...

26.02.2010 15:25, алекс 2611

I will try to pull up the forum, as it happened with Oleg Gorbunov (Lepidoptera, Sesiidae), and Timofey Levchenko (Hymenoptera, Apoidea).
Timofey on Monday defended the fauna and ecology of bees in the Moscow region. And after that...
By the way, we wish him good luck!
And the corresponding section of the "green" (Determinant of insects of the European part of the USSR, III vol., I ch., 1978), unfortunately, is very incomplete, and, in some places, morally outdated...

Yes, it would be nice to see at least one professional on the bees.

26.02.2010 15:37, алекс 2611

.... and the definition of the photo is generally mostly from the evil one, so I do not participate in this process. Besides, what's the point? Well, someone will put a label with the name under the copy in their box and then what, it is unclear...

Of course, the definition of the photo, and even the case is quite meaningless. And you can't use the results of the photo detection at all.
If you really need to determine, then the copy in your hands. But if as a hint to a person in what direction to look for, what kind to look at, then the topic helps someone.
Yes, you can probably look so down from the scientific Olympus and squeamishly wrinkle your nose from the attempts of amateurs.
And if you help? Advice, hints, literature...
After all, people gathered here who are interested in the world around them. For me, it's better to catch insects in your spare time than drink vodka.
Yes, from the point of view of high SCIENCE, many people are engaged in garbage. And if people are interested. I've been catching bees for more than twenty years.
Well, what can I do about it.... frown.gif
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26.02.2010 16:10, Guest

Vodka needs to be drunk at the same time to find, not a single person lives as beetles.
It's great if a person is interested in learning about the world around them, I only welcome this. And there is no trace of OLYMPUS, there is still a stomp and stomp before it:) It's just that sometimes you feel sorry for the time, effort, etc. for identification to the type of instance that is unlikely to go further, that's all. And I am always open for cooperation, people who have contacted me will confirm this, but a request like "what kind of bees are these in my photos, otherwise I collect butterflies and beetles myself, but I also took a picture of them" does not arouse my enthusiasm at all...
But I sometimes watch the topic, it's interesting, and you, Alex, are well done, just for the fact that you love bees, and not butterflies, I'm ready to put a bubble for you (at the symposium, for example:)

26.02.2010 16:26, Dr. Niko

Maybe you should introduce yourself... rolleyes.gif smile.gif

This post was edited by Dr. Niko - 02/26/2010 16: 26
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26.02.2010 20:06, akulich-sibiria

Of course, the definition of the photo, and even the case is quite meaningless. And you can't use the results of the photo detection at all.
If you really need to determine, then the copy in your hands. But if as a hint to a person in what direction to look for, what kind to look at, then the topic helps someone.
Yes, you can probably look so down from the scientific Olympus and squeamishly wrinkle your nose from the attempts of amateurs.
And if you help? Advice, hints, literature...
After all, people gathered here who are interested in the world around them. For me, it's better to catch insects in your spare time than drink vodka.
Yes, from the point of view of high SCIENCE, many people are engaged in garbage. And if people are interested. I've been catching bees for more than twenty years.
What can I do about it?... frown.gif


Alex, I totally agree with you. Your help is very pleasant and useful to me. I hope for further cooperation. And let me be more fond of beetles, but it's better than drinking VODKA...... wink.gif beer.gif

26.02.2010 20:14, akulich-sibiria

[quote=alex 2611,26. 02. 2010 18:45]

26.02.2010 20:19, akulich-sibiria

The female of this species was caught in the south of the Krasnoyarsk Territory. Unfortunately, there is no exact label. I think something is banal, but I could not understand what kind of view it is. 10-11 mm.
Head. The hair is light, slightly pressed, wavy.
The base of the platbands is more often dotted, shagreen, at the top slightly glistening, in rare large points.
The upper lip is narrowed, notched at the apex and thickened at this point.
Whiskers are red below, almost completely yellow-red at the top. The eye grooves are very wide and long.
Srednespinka. The hairs are thick yellow-white. Shagreen with infrequent points. The shield in the center is shiny, not dotted.
The hind legs are reddish, the base is darkened. The hairs are light yellow.
the gap. the segment is in the hairs, the median field is not rough.
The abdomen. 1-3 th tergites are red. 2-4 tergites with wide unbroken bandages, strongly shagged, hardly noticeable points. Anal fringe is red.
Something about chrysopus and azerbaidshanica
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26.02.2010 20:25, akulich-sibiria

Here is another membrane, suspicion fell on Pamphiliidae. Is it possible to get to the species somehow, or at least to the genus? shuffle.gif 

MO, mid-June, 8-10 mm approximately.

very similar to acantholyda posticalis, here is my saw
picture: acantholyda_posticalis.jpg
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26.02.2010 20:30, косинус

please help me identify

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26.02.2010 20:36, akulich-sibiria

vespa crabro presumably
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26.02.2010 21:29, Alexander Zarodov

very similar to acantholyda posticalis, here is my saw


Yes, they all look alikesmile.gif, maybe that one. But my feet are light. I think weep.gifI won't even show hopeless Ichneumons... wall.gif

26.02.2010 22:25, guest: IchMan

What about ichneumonide? Some bright animals can be very well identified by photos and even before the species. Mostly true - the level of the subfamily, and then a lot depends on the shooting angle. So if the photos are good, you can also try

26.02.2010 23:40, Dr. Niko

Here is another membrane, suspicion fell on Pamphiliidae. Is it possible to get to the species somehow, or at least to the genus? shuffle.gif 

MO, mid-June, 8-10 mm approximately.

With the help of a Green and network (probably some kind of Zinovsky) key, I came to the conclusion that it could very likely be Pamphilius varius (Lepeletier, 1823). The main landmark here by and large is the upper part of the head:

picture: p_varius.jpg

It's just a pity that there aren't enough photos on the web.

This post was edited by Dr. Niko - 02/26/2010 23: 42
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27.02.2010 0:39, Alexander Zarodov

With the help of a Green and network (probably some kind of Zinovsky) key, I came to the conclusion that it could very likely be Pamphilius varius (Lepeletier, 1823). The main reference point here, by and large, is the upper part of the head:
It's just a pity that there aren't enough photos on the web.


According to the whiskers, rather, Neurotoma is obtained, the 3rd segment of the antennae is clearly 3 times larger than the 4th and the costal cell without a transverse vein. But we will consider your option smile.gif

Here, venation:

picture: hym0614x.jpg

Ichneumons (all MO):

1. July
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2. August
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3. September (in gnilushki)
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27.02.2010 0:45, Дзанат

  
Ichneumons (all MO):

Amblyteles maybe.
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27.02.2010 13:27, алекс 2611

just for the fact that you love bees, and not butterflies, I am ready to put a bubble on you (at a symposium, for example:)


Only with one condition - I put the bubble "in smile.gifresponse"

27.02.2010 13:32, алекс 2611

What about ichneumonide? Some bright animals can be very well identified by photos and even before the species. Mostly true - the level of the subfamily, and then a lot depends on the shooting angle. So if the photos are good, you can try it


Tell me, is there a chance to identify large species of Ichneumoninae by "green"?
No matter how many times I've tried , nothing comes out... frown.gif

27.02.2010 17:21, elvir

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27.02.2010 17:31, Дзанат

Bombus sp. :-)
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28.02.2010 1:06, Alexander Zarodov

With the help of a Green and network (probably some kind of Zinovsky) key, I came to the conclusion that it could very likely be Pamphilius varius (Lepeletier, 1823). The main landmark here by and large is the upper part of the head:

picture: p_varius.jpg

It's just a pity that there aren't enough photos on the web.


I took a closer look at the "green" one. Neurotoma does not work at all, so there is a vein there after allsmile.gif, and from Pamphilius, varius is really more suitable.

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