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11.10.2009 19:53, vasiliy-feoktistov

Please help me figure out Elaphrus(s). Caught: 26.04.1999 Here: Moscow region Balashikha district, Zheleznodorozhny district, sandy bank of a stream.

I'm deleting the photo. Posted here: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...679#entry954679

12.10.2009 4:18, akulich-sibiria

good people, I'm all about the grinder, staphylinam and the nutcracker...

12.10.2009 19:33, akulich-sibiria

good evening. Khakassia, Larch forest.
1. Selatosomus 13 mm. very similar to impressus, but slightly short in length. As a variant of nigricornis. The longitudinal stripe on the pronotum is clearly visible. Rear corner keels, clear and straight. The color is almost black. The punctuation on the pronotum is dense, on the shield sparse.
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2. ground beetle 4 mm. The nails are not jagged.
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3. something from Cisidae, as a variant of Cis punctulatus. The points on the elytra are tangled. The platband is notched. The anterior edge of the pronotum is also slightly indented
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4. staphylin
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5. staphylin
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12.10.2009 19:50, evk

good evening. Khakassia, Larch forest.
2. ground beetle 4 mm. The nails are not jagged.

Well, with the ground beetle to the genus, everything is very simple-Microlestes. But then it is somewhat more difficult, but I will venture to call it 90% - M. minutulus Gz. There are not many species of this genus in your region, only 4. Of these, as far as I can tell from the image, only minutulus will fit in. But it would be better to pull the genitals wink.gif

PS It seems that the brown color of the elytra is confusing, but you can't tell exactly from the photo whether this is a fact or an artifact of the shooting.
See for yourself, if the elytra are still brown, not black, and the antennae have brown main segments, then it may be a different species. Which one - we will discuss as a result of your inspection!

This post was edited by evk - 12.10.2009 19: 55
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12.10.2009 20:04, Fornax13

The last staff is an elongatus-type Tachinus. I don't know if you have anything like that. With the rest (except Philont) - everything is worse - this is from the Aleocharinae (like the tribe Aleocharini). It is unlikely that anyone will tell you at all.

Unfortunately, I don't know the snappers very well (especially from Siberia) - I won't show off.

This post was edited by Fornax13-12.10.2009 20: 09
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12.10.2009 20:13, evk

  
... With the rest-everything is worse - this is from the Aleocharinae (like the tribe Aleocharini). It is unlikely that anyone will tell you at all.


yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif Even those who specialize in this group are unlikely to decide to identify Aleocharinae from photos.
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12.10.2009 20:34, NakaRB

Batch # 10
All but 91, 100 were shot in the vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region.

91. Moscow, Bitsevsky Forest Park, 07.06.2009
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92. 12.06.2009
Sciaphilus asperatus?
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93. 12.06.2009
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94. 12.06.2009
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95. 12.06.2009
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96. 12.06.2009
Lochmae caprea?
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97. 12.06.2009
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98. 12.06.2009
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99. 13.06.2009, on light
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100. Malakhovka, Moscow region, 14.06.2009
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12.10.2009 20:41, Mantispid

95. Athous sp.
97. Cionus scrophulariae (Linnaeus, 1758)
98. Cantharis fusca Linnaeus, 1758
99. Cantharis nigricans (Muller, 1776)

This post was edited by Mantispid - 12.10.2009 20: 41
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12.10.2009 20:46, Алексей Сажнев

The first barbel is Paracorymbia maculicornis (De Geer, 1775)
second - Alosterna tabacicolor tabacicolor (De Geer, 1775)
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12.10.2009 20:53, Fornax13

I've seen this before somewhere confused.gif wink.gif
91 - Chrysolina polita
92 - Sciaphilus asperatus
93 - Byturus ?tomentosus
96-Galerucella sp.
97-Cionus scrophulariae
98 - Cantharis fusca
99-Cantharis ?? pellucida
100-Alosterna tabacicolor or something...

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12.10.2009 20:56, omar

Byturus ?tomentosus yes it is, on raspberry something wink.gif
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12.10.2009 22:51, алекс 2611

good evening. Khakassia, Larch forest.
1. Selatosomus 13 mm. very similar to impressus, but slightly short in length. As a variant of nigricornis. The longitudinal stripe on the pronotum is clearly visible. Rear corner keels, clear and straight. The color is almost black. The punctuation on the pronotum is dense, on the shield sparse.


What are the problems with the length? In the "Determinant of insects of the Far East of the USSR" for this species, a length of 12-16 mm is given, in the "Fauna of the USSR" also 12-16 mm
Like 13 mm fit perfectly. Yes, and similar.
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13.10.2009 0:35, omar

I've seen this before somewhere

it was, and more than once tongue.gif

13.10.2009 8:17, akulich-sibiria

Well, with the ground beetle to the genus, everything is very simple-Microlestes. But then it is somewhat more difficult, but I will venture to call it 90% - M. minutulus Gz. There are not many species of this genus in your region, only 4. Of these, as far as I can tell from the image, only minutulus will fit in. But it would be better to pull the genitals wink.gif

PS It seems that the brown color of the elytra is confusing, but you can't tell exactly from the photo whether this is a fact or an artifact of the shooting.
See for yourself, if the elytra are still brown, not black, and the antennae have brown main segments, then it may be a different species. Which one - we will discuss as a result of your inspection!

thank you, I also thought about this kind of thing (I don't often come across them. so I did not rush,)
about the species, I came to the theses exactly on M. minutulus. e On the structure of the antennae and on the color. Indeed, the elytra are dark brown. and also his paws are brown.
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13.10.2009 8:27, Victor Titov

Batch # 10
All but 91, 100, taken in the vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region
95. 12.06.2009
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95. Athous sp.

95 - Athous subfuscus (Mueller, 1767)
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13.10.2009 10:25, Sugercete

Dear experts,
please help me determine the location based on the scan:

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Caught on 26.08.2009 in MO, Mozhaisky district, mixed forest

Thank You

13.10.2009 10:32, Jacik

Similar to Cychrus caraboides (Linnaeus, 1758)
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13.10.2009 10:37, Bad Den

Cychrus caraboides
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13.10.2009 10:47, Buzman

Please help me with the definition. It is very similar to Pterostichus (Morphnosoma) melanarius (Illiger, 1798). But I have very big doubts – the color is brown (lighter from below), the episternes of the posterior thorax are shorter and wider, the lateral edge (roller) of the pronotum is much thinner.
Western Ukraine, Transcarpathian region, Uzhgorod district, vicinity of the village. Nevitskoe lake.
5-6. 06. 1973
Length 15 mm

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13.10.2009 11:13, evk

Please help me with the definition. It is very similar to Pterostichus (Morphnosoma) melanarius (Illiger, 1798). But I have very big doubts – the color is brown (lighter from below), the episternes of the posterior thorax are shorter and wider, the lateral edge (roller) of the pronotum is much thinner.
Western Ukraine, Transcarpathian region, Uzhgorod district, vicinity of the village. Nevitskoe lake.
5-6. 06. 1973
Length 15 mm

Yes, you do not have Pterostichus, but Abax-check if there are bristle-bearing pores in the 3rd gap?
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13.10.2009 11:40, Mantispid

Like Abax (Abacopercus) carinatus carinatus (Duftschmid, 1812) 11
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13.10.2009 12:20, evk

It seems to be similar to Abax (Abacopercus) carinatus carinatus (Duftschmid, 1812)

The size of parallelopipedus is small, and the edges in the image are barely distinguishable

Buzman @ 13.10.2009 11: 47 - And look at the pictures here - all types of Abax are laid out http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...94488&langid=en

This post was edited by evk - 13.10.2009 12: 21
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13.10.2009 12:23, rpanin

It seems to be similar to Abax (Abacopercus) carinatus carinatus (Duftschmid, 1812)

More similar to Abax parallelus Duftschmid, 1812.
You need a photo at an angle.
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13.10.2009 12:30, Mantispid

I thought I saw a characteristic carinatus rib on the elytra
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13.10.2009 12:44, Buzman

Thank you all! But this is not Abax... 3 bristle-bearing pores in the third gap...

13.10.2009 12:54, rpanin

Thank you all! But this is not Abax... 3 bristle-bearing pores in the third gap...

Alternatively, it can be Pterostichus (Feronidius) melas (Creutzer, 1799).
But the rib characteristic of Abax is too clearly visible on the shoulders. We need photos from other angles.
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13.10.2009 13:01, evk

Thank you all! But this is not Abax... 3 bristle-bearing pores in the third gap...

To rule out melanarius altogether, look at the claw segment. It should have bristles. If not, then not him.
Options: Pt. melas, but there are like 2 pores in the 3 interval. There is also a certain hungaricus unknown to me, also from the same company as melas (sg.Feronidius).
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13.10.2009 13:03, Buzman

Thanks! I'll check it out again tonight for melas. There are setae on the claw segment... And what kind of angles do you need? I'll try to do it.

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13.10.2009 13:16, evk

Thanks! I'll check it out again tonight for melas. There are setae on the claw segment... And what kind of angles do you need? I'll try to do it.

Preferably, the elytra are large and "cleaned", so that the pores and ribs can be seen decently in the picture (play with the light!) and better light through a diffuser of some kind-a thread. Well, the pronotum is also separate.
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13.10.2009 13:17, rpanin

Thanks! I'll check it out again tonight for melas. There are setae on the claw segment... And what kind of angles do you need? I'll try to do it.

I watched a series of my beetles.
We can say with high probability that this is Pterostichus (Feronidius) melas. On a cursory inspection, it really looks like Abax parallelus. But in Abax parallelus, the rib on the shoulders is arched.
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13.10.2009 13:27, rpanin

I watched a series of my beetles.
We can say with high probability that this is Pterostichus (Feronidius) melas. On a cursory inspection, it really looks like Abax parallelus. But in Abax parallelus, the rib on the shoulders is arched.

Although...?
All P. melas have two pores. confused.gif
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13.10.2009 15:44, vlad-veras

Please tell me what kind of bug. R-r 1.5 mm.
Came out of the batch of pine buds, the place of harvesting is Belarus.
Date of harvesting-spring 2009, discovered 13.10.2009
After all, without defining it, it is unlikely to understand how to deal with it.

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13.10.2009 15:46, Алексей Сажнев

Ptinus sp.

13.10.2009 17:14, Mantispid

Ptinus fur L.-you can also see 2 spots on the pronotum.

13.10.2009 18:03, evk

Ptinus fur L.-you can also see 2 spots on the pronotum.

Yes, I myself am inclined to this, although "doubts gnaw" shuffle.gifAnd hairy spots can also look similar in a couple of other species. Well, it confuses "from the buds of pine trees", although this stuff is not found anywhere.

13.10.2009 18:07, Алексей Сажнев

Yes is very similar to R. fur, but indeed, hair spots on the pronotum are characteristic of other species, so I wrote sp., and so yes probably is fur

13.10.2009 18:29, akulich-sibiria

good evening. A few more beetles, Khakassia, larch
1. Triplax aenea ??
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2. what is the pterostichus? At least until Rod…
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13.10.2009 18:39, Алексей Сажнев

Triplax seems to be true, but I won't say for sure,
But "pterostichus" may still have been meant - a staphylinid from Tachyporinae

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 13.10.2009 18: 54

13.10.2009 18:55, Fornax13

1. Triplax aenea-yes
2. staff-Sepedophilus some.
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13.10.2009 22:12, NakaRB

I've seen this before somewhere confused.gif wink.gif

everything can be, there are a lot of photos, I could get confused wink.gif

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