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23.03.2010 12:09, Cerambyx

May be. In M. O. all three can be salted.

Yes, just like everywhere else in central Russia. But P. marmorata, fieberi, and aeruginosa for salting can only be typed in places smile.gif
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23.03.2010 12:30, Sugercete

May be. In M. O. all three can be salted.


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23.03.2010 12:45, vasiliy-feoktistov

The process of the mid-thorax between the basins of the middle legs is narrow, rounded at the end (genus Cetonia).
The process of the mid-thorax is flattened and strongly expanded at the end (genus Potosia).
You, Irina, have this case sealed with a die (although I'm more inclined to my own version after all).
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23.03.2010 12:54, Sugercete

The process of the mid-thorax between the basins of the middle legs is narrow, rounded at the end (genus Cetonia).
The process of the mid-thorax is flattened and strongly expanded at the end (genus Potosia).
You, Irina, have this case sealed with a die (although I'm more inclined to my own version after all).


Thank you.
I'll peel it off.

And what about Aphodius?

23.03.2010 13:01, vasiliy-feoktistov

Thank you.
I'll peel it off.

And what about Aphodius?

Yes, peel it off (these two types differ greatly). # 2 you have a typical C. aurata.
According to Aphodius, I can't say anything (the oak itself is an oak in them)
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23.03.2010 13:09, Cerambyx

In fact, the anterior process of the mid-thorax is not sealed (the die does not cover it), you just need to take a photo from a different angle - right from below, and then we will all make sure that this is cetonia.

23.03.2010 13:13, Sugercete

Yes, peel it off (these two types differ greatly). # 2 you have a typical C. aurata.
According to Aphodius, I can't say anything (the oak itself is an oak in them)


I would have assigned No. 3 to C. aurata myself, and I would have looked at it from below in time, but I was confused by the fact that No. 3 was caught in July, and that it is significantly larger. C. aurata fly in May like crazy smile.gif

23.03.2010 13:16, Sugercete

In fact, the anterior process of the mid-thorax is not sealed (the die does not cover it), you just need to take a photo from a different angle - right from below, and then we will all make sure that this is cetonia.


It closes, I've already looked at it, but unpacking the die is not a problem. I use heavy-duty PVA with D3 water resistance. Such glue is peeled off in a whole piece, when it gets wet, it becomes like a rubber band.
It will be ready by the evening.

23.03.2010 13:17, vasiliy-feoktistov

I would have assigned No. 3 to C. aurata myself, and I would have looked at it from below in time, but I was confused by the fact that No. 3 was caught in July, and that it is significantly larger. C. aurata fly in May like crazy smile.gif

They fly all summer until September (all 3) .
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23.03.2010 13:24, vasiliy-feoktistov

By the way, that's how I distinguish them (the same processes):

Pictures:
picture: Cetonia.jpg
Cetonia.jpg — (104.37к)

picture: Potosia.jpg
Potosia.jpg — (96.31к)

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23.03.2010 16:45, John-ST

I would have assigned No. 3 to C. aurata myself, and I would have looked at it from below in time, but I was confused by the fact that No. 3 was caught in July, and that it is significantly larger. C. aurata fly in May like crazy smile.gif

In the Ministry of Defense from May to September, aurats fly, although I have the earliest 06.04.2000, but this is rather an exception, and the latest is 20.09.1995. and so they usually have the most years in June, then all umbrella bunches are hung.
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23.03.2010 16:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

In the Ministry of Defense from May to September, aurats fly, although I have the earliest 06.04.2000, but this is rather an exception, and the latest is 20.09.1995. and so they usually have the most years in June, then all umbrella bunches are hung.

In April, I also caught both aurata and metallica (though at the end). So-this is not an exception (imago winters with them in my opinion)smile.gif.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 23.03.2010 16: 56
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23.03.2010 16:59, Mantispid

Sugercete
Aphodius resembles Aphodius (Alocoderus) sordidus (Fabricius, 1775), but it is so shamanic)
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23.03.2010 17:04, John-ST

It closes, I've already looked at it, but unpacking the die is not a problem. I use heavy-duty PVA with D3 water resistance. Such glue is peeled off in a whole piece, when it gets wet, it becomes like a rubber band.
It will be ready by the evening.

By the way, in marmorata, the lateral edge of the pronotum is bordered only in the posterior two-thirds, and in aurata and metallica, the lateral edge of the psp is completely bordered. So if it is bordered by two-thirds, then this is marmorata and you can not peel it off.

23.03.2010 17:09, Sugercete

In fact, the anterior process of the mid-thorax is not sealed (the die does not cover it), you just need to take a photo from a different angle - right from below, and then we will all make sure that this is cetonia.


Dear Cerambyx turned out to be right, and I, a fool, did not immediately realize that this process was sticking out ahead.

Here:

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23.03.2010 17:09, John-ST

In April, I also caught both aurata and metallica (though at the end). So-this is not an exception (imago winters with them in my opinion)smile.gif.

You're in luck. I have only aurats from the region, and metallics from Chuvashia, we have more manure in the region than anthills frown.gif
And in early April, they usually still do not fly, this one got out on a pile of compost with a fool to warm up, while in the forest there is still snow usually, and from the grass only flowers of the mother-and-stepmother

This post was edited by John-ST-23.03.2010 17: 13

23.03.2010 17:12, vasiliy-feoktistov

By the way, in marmorata, the lateral edge of the pronotum is bordered only in the posterior two-thirds, and in aurata and metallica, the lateral edge of the psp is completely bordered. So if it is bordered by two-thirds, then this is marmorata and you can not peel it off.

Not no marmorata there definitely, marmorata is real here (on the flowers it is not):

Pictures:
picture: marmorata.jpg
marmorata.jpg — (108.2к)

23.03.2010 17:14, vasiliy-feoktistov

Dear Cerambyx turned out to be right, and I, a fool, did not immediately realize that this process was sticking out ahead.

Here:

user posted image

Well, you can see: metallica is all the same.
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23.03.2010 17:30, Sugercete

  Sugercete
Aphodius resembles Aphodius (Alocoderus) sordidus (Fabricius, 1775), but it is so shamanic)


For example, this sordidus should have a matte top with no dots, while mine should have a glossy top with dots. Here smile.gifis

23.03.2010 17:40, Fornax13

For example, this sordidus should have a matte top with no dots, while mine should have a glossy top with dots. Here smile.gif

A. rufus (=scybalarius) is. Not uncommon.
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23.03.2010 18:29, Sugercete

A. rufus (=scybalarius) is. Not uncommon.


In rufus, the NDCR grooves should not connect to each other closer to the top, as in mine... smile.gif

  
.. The large spur of the hind leg is longer than the 1st segment of the foot
..the grooves of the ndcr are connected posteriorly to each other
..the grooves of the ndcr are not more deeply indented posteriorly, the gaps are flat


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This post was edited by Sugercete - 03/23/2010 18: 50

23.03.2010 19:28, Fornax13

And what is the sign with grooves? I don't find anything anywhere. What keys did you use? About the tops of the ndcr. - if you can, take a better photo or take a look for yourself. And where is the beetle collected? Biotope, I mean.
In general, there is a MO:
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/nikits96.htm
Afodec can be defined by:
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/Rus/balthas3.htm
This will also work, in principle: http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/Rus/gvnik_87.htm
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23.03.2010 19:34, Sugercete

And what is the sign with grooves? I don't find anything anywhere. What keys did you use? About the tops of the ndcr. - if you can, take a better photo or take a look for yourself. And where is the beetle collected? Biotope, I mean.



Keys: Jacobson, I still have green, but out of habit I'm still on GG. On green somehow everything is too simple (IMHO)

Biotope. Dacha plot on the edge of a mixed forest. In household waste

You can't get a better photo with my camera, but here's the full size: http://s002.radikal.ru/i198/1003/ca/61953b2ba936.jpg

This post was edited by Sugercete - 03/23/2010 19: 39

23.03.2010 19:50, Fornax13

Who is the author of Jacobson's Aphod. rufus? Use something newer - at least green. There shouldn't be anything complicated.
Here's a comparison:
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/aphodius%20lugens.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/aphodius%20rufus.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/aphodius%20sordidus.htm

23.03.2010 20:07, Sugercete

Who is the author of Jacobson's Aphod. rufus? Use something newer - at least green. There shouldn't be anything complicated.
Here's a comparison:
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/aphodius%20lugens.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/aphodius%20rufus.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/aphodius%20sordidus.htm


According to these photos I have rufus
Thank you so much for your help

ps. Author of rufus by Jacobson Moll.

This post was edited by Sugercete - 23.03.2010 20: 09

23.03.2010 20:53, akulich-sibiria

can you tell me this is Chrysolina montana? I've already learned to tear my aedeaguses for him
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picture: Ch.montana.jpg
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23.03.2010 20:55, akulich-sibiria

Alexey greetings, I haven't seen you here for a long time.
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23.03.2010 21:32, Fornax13

Then akulich-sibiria:
Yes, the staff from page 185 is most likely Quedius (Quedionuchus) plagiatus, especially if from under the bark. Or have you already identified it? )
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24.03.2010 12:47, vasiliy-feoktistov

Hello, please help me identify the bug (L=11mm.).
I think he's from Sakhalin. The label is extremely illegible-although this is not my mistake, but I still apologize for itmol.gif.

Pictures:
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24.03.2010 12:56, Dmitry Vlasov

In metallica, larvae overwinter (beetles appear from mid-May - not earlier (and then in years with warm and early spring), and in cetonia, beetles and larvae overwinter. therefore, sometimes they (beetles) fly out in April. And in September, young people fly more often, although sometimes"old people" also survive.
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24.03.2010 12:58, Dmitry Vlasov

2vasiliy-Lasiotrichius succinctus-exact DV specie
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24.03.2010 13:07, vasiliy-feoktistov

In metallica, larvae overwinter (beetles appear from mid-May - not earlier (and then in years with warm and early spring), and in cetonia, beetles and larvae overwinter. therefore, sometimes they (beetles) fly out in April. And in September, young people fly more often, although sometimes"old people" also survive.

It happens in the heat at the end of April, and metallica comes out (I caught it myself in the twenties).

2vasiliy-Lasiotrichius succinctus-exactly the same species

Thank you, doubts are dispelled (now I will post it in the topic on trichins) beer.gif

24.03.2010 15:14, rpanin

I will ask for help from specialists.
Is this Lioderina linearis ? Transcarpathia.
7.5mm

Pictures:
picture: Lioderina_linearis_7.5mm.jpg
Lioderina_linearis_7.5mm.jpg — (106.66к)

24.03.2010 15:30, RippeR

rather Axinopalpis gracilis
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24.03.2010 15:38, rpanin

rather Axinopalpis gracilis

Hmm, I've never even heard of it.
Something valuable?

24.03.2010 16:25, RippeR

http://www.cerambyx.uochb.cz/ag.htm
for central Europe, they write, a valuable, for continental, widespread nocturnal species )
I didn't catch it myself, Trofim got one
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25.03.2010 12:07, Cerambyx

Dear Cerambyx turned out to be right, and I, a fool, did not immediately realize that this process was sticking out ahead.

Here:

user posted image


Yeah, really a fantasy... shuffle.gif
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25.03.2010 19:13, barry

Some kind of maggots, or cocoons in beans...

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25.03.2010 19:17, Алексей Сажнев

zernovka to see-Bruchus sp. - what are the options for beans and peas - were there any outlets in what quantity?

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 25.03.2010 19: 20
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25.03.2010 19:19, Victor Titov

Some kind of maggots, or cocoons in beans...

Acanthoscelides obtectus?
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