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Identification of beetles (Coleoptera)

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16.04.2008 10:12, Bad Den

Did Medvedev see them for sure?

16.04.2008 12:07, omar

I doubt he saw them. Judging by the reviews, he is a very attentive person, a great connoisseur and lover of his craft, who does not miss unusual beetles. Maybe it was not the same Medvedev, but, for example, the current president, and it was shown to him? smile.gif In fact, blaps have wrinkled elytra - this is quite common in them, the consequences of an unsuccessful exit of a soft beetle from the pupa. But Pimelia seems fine, so what's so ugly about her?
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16.04.2008 16:23, Mylabris

Blaps transversalis Ball. and Pterocoma. The latter is similar to ganglbaueri, but I'm not entirely sure.
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16.04.2008 17:27, omar

Thank you for the correction, dear Milabris, it turns out that this is a sign of the species. I hadn't thought of that. I saw a lot of wrinkled halophila and lethiphera And with pterocoma I punctured frown.gifWell, yes, I'm sure you know Wed. Asia better here

16.04.2008 18:38, Mylabris

And blyaps really are all sorts of wrinkled-as it seems to me, they just came out of the pupa and "got stronger" in not very comfortable conditions. Or when such a fresh one is washed and pricked - it also happens that the elytra change somewhat.
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16.04.2008 22:20, Archypus

16.04.2008 23:04, omar

Very interesting. Unfortunately, I didn't know anything about it. And where do they come from?

Over 1.30 Yes, lots of streamlined seats. By the way, I measured the index of the pronotum width of the patronbus image. It turned out to be equal to 1.18-1.19 So what is it after that?

I'll check the labels next Wednesday, if I can get out. As for mine, you can easily guess wink.gif
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17.04.2008 0:26, Nimrod

17.04.2008 8:06, amara

 
Over 1.30


You are absolutely right, it says over 1.30, I overlooked it.

17.04.2008 21:29, rpanin

Similar bug with caught Rippers (Subject "Fishing Report")
Lviv, Kaiserwald Park at the source of the stream under the stone.
8 mm
Presumably some kind of bembidion Sinechostictus ? confused.gif

Pictures:
picture: Sinechostictus_8_mm.jpg
Sinechostictus_8_mm.jpg — (113.85к)

18.04.2008 7:03, Timandr

Thank you, I told you it should be easy. I thought that the specific feature for this species was wrinkles (they were all there, and fast, and strong like...).
Yes, this is the same Medvedev, who seems to be engaged in the world fauna of black-bodied animals. I still have a lot of uncertain things left from the black chicks of Central Asia and Kazakhstan (although most of them were determined by different specialists) - but time and slow Internet... Maybe I'll send you more later.

18.04.2008 19:44, Necrocephalus

I ask for help in determining Aphodius before the species. The main hope, of course, is for Mr. Nimrod smile.gif
The beetle was caught on the sandy shore of the reservoir in the vicinity of Kurchatov (Kursk region), under a stone, 18.04.2008

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18.04.2008 21:17, Mylabris

For me, so from the subgenus Chilothorax. Maybe a female transvolgensis?
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18.04.2008 23:54, Fornax13

I ask for help in determining Aphodius before the species. The main hope, of course, is for Mr. Nimrod smile.gif
The beetle was caught on the sandy shore of the reservoir in the vicinity of Kurchatov (Kursk region), under a stone, 18.04.2008

Is it his platelet that's so granular??? How does A. (Ch.) ivanovi Lebedev fail? A biotope, basically its own, but the species was considered endemic to the Volga region, as far as I remember. Although it is colored differently... So there might be something very interesting.
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19.04.2008 0:01, Fornax13

Similar bug with caught Rippers (Subject "Fishing Report")
Lviv, Kaiserwald Park at the source of the stream under the stone.
8 mm
Presumably some kind of bembidion Sinechostictus ? confused.gif

Yes, those were indeed Sinechostictus, most likely... This one is also similar, in general. And how does it pass through the keys?

19.04.2008 0:10, Necrocephalus

I don't think it's transvolgensis. Firstly, the coloration is quite different, and secondly, it occurs much to the south-east, as far as I know...
A. ivanovi is also unlikely, despite the sculpture of the platypus. I thought of this view first, but it didn't. And the color is not the same, and the shape of the pronotum is different, and it is too large (almost 5 mm).
As for the subgenus, it really looks like Chilothorax...
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19.04.2008 0:39, Nimrod

Thank you, Mr. Necrocephalus, for your confidence. Of course, I will try to twist this female, but I had some questions along the way:
- is the shield normal or narrow?
- how long and thick are the bristles on the edges of the pronotum and near the shoulder corners of the elytra?

It really does resemble something from the subgenus Chilothorax (thank you, gentlemen), but if it is a melanist, and even a female.... I will try.
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19.04.2008 1:00, Fornax13

In general, as far as I understand, females of other species of this subgenus also have similar things with the platypus...

19.04.2008 1:03, Necrocephalus

  
- is the shield normal or narrow?
- how long and thick are the bristles on the edges of the pronotum and near the shoulder corners of the elytra?

In my opinion, the shield is normal, not narrow. The density of the bristles in the place you indicated is moderate, they are quite long. For clarity, I post two photos, on one of them the same bristles are more or less visible, on the other - the shield.

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19.04.2008 1:24, Guest

Yes, those were indeed Sinechostictus, most likely... This one is also similar, in general. And how does it pass through the keys?
weep.gif
I don't have any keys to them.
Judging by the Polish list of them (Sinechostictus), there are 5 species in our region.

19.04.2008 8:44, amara

  weep.gif
I don't have any keys to them.
Judging by the Polish list of them (Sinechostictus), there are 5 species in our region.


I myself do not know this subgenus, so maybe you are right, but out of curiosity I looked and found that of the species listed in Wrighter (5) and Pawlowski (Poland, 4 species), the largest is max.7 mm, and it has a metallic luster on the nadkr. The rest is less than 6 mm.
According to Kryzhanovsky (1983), in the species of this subgenus, " the 8th furrow is tilted. in the anterior half it is shortened, often flowing into the lateral edge in the apical third or in front of it. Prothorax in rough spots, Prsp, narrow heart-shaped, very narrowly bordered."

19.04.2008 16:10, mems

Hello everyone

I found it in the woods today:

1-bug-t-shirt?
2-bug: Zhigan-Lemon smile.gif

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19.04.2008 20:11, metallman.92

th the early this bug!))) we have here in the MO it appears in the summer))

19.04.2008 20:13, Victor Titov

Hello everyone

I found it in the woods today:

1-bug-t-shirt?
2-bug: Zhigan-Lemon smile.gif

That's right, Myka. And the line-shield bug (Italian bug) - Graphosoma lineatum L.
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19.04.2008 20:26, Mylabris

Mike is a male Meloe violaceus. If possible, specify the collection location and importer.
You can write to your personal account.

This post was edited by Mylabris - 04/19/2008 20: 32

19.04.2008 20:26, guest: omar

I think I will not be mistaken if I say that the T-shirt is Meloe violaceus

19.04.2008 20:28, guest: omar

Well, the specialist beat me to it. "I'll fall, I'll cry in the sheets "(C)

19.04.2008 20:51, RippeR

These beetles are already almost in full swing - that is, enough but not yet supermajor.
Milabris: Place of capture Moldova, Transdniestria. Memes will be more precise. And why the data on violaceus?

19.04.2008 21:03, Mylabris

I have been compiling a database of points for 7 years now, not only in Kazakhstan.

19.04.2008 23:18, Fornax13

  weep.gif
I don't have any keys to them.
Judging by the Polish list of them (Sinechostictus), there are 5 species in our region.

Try these options:
http://www.coleo-net.de/coleo/texte/synechostictus.htm

20.04.2008 0:17, mems

The bug was villainously caught on a nettle leaf in its own thicket, 6 meters from the reservoir, 19.04.08. Kitskansky forest, Transnistria smile.gif

20.04.2008 12:21, metallman.92

user posted image

20.04.2008 16:14, Buzman

To metallman.92: Agriotes obscurus (L.)

20.04.2008 20:49, Victor Titov

To metallman.92: Agriotes obscurus (L.)

Great! So confidently and immediately Agriotes obscurus. Why not Agriotes sputator? confused.gif How was "in years" determined? Please explain!

20.04.2008 21:22, metallman.92

oh.... my picture didn't load...here I go..and .. bam and she's already here))) what is this bug?? 8 mm. in length (without antennae), when you turn it over on the back, it somehow jumps 3-5 cm up to turn over)

20.04.2008 21:30, Victor Titov

oh.... my picture didn't load...here I go..and .. bam and she's already here))) what is this bug?? 8 mm. in length (without antennae), when you turn it over on the back, it somehow jumps 3-5 cm up to turn over)

The two posts preceding yours answered your question. This is a click beetle (family Elateridae). The genus is definitely Agriotes, but the species is not clear to me personally: Buzman is definitely for A. obscurus, and it seems to me that it is quite difficult to distinguish it from A. sputator from the photo...

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 04/20/2008 21: 32

20.04.2008 21:42, Buzman

To Dmitrich: Pronotum markedly transverse. At sputator, it is still more elongated. But with basins, of course, it would be more accurate, I completely agree with you. shuffle.gif

This post was edited by Buzman - 04/20/2008 21: 43
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20.04.2008 21:55, metallman.92

lan, sps to you all for the info)) I'm still interested in this question..what is it ottaluivaetsya when lying on the back??

20.04.2008 22:05, Buzman

To Dmitrich: At least in these photos you can see it.
Left - A. obscurus, right-A. sputator umnik.gif

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picture: agriotes_obscurus_sputator.jpg
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20.04.2008 22:07, rpanin

Similar bug with caught Rippers (Subject "Fishing Report")
Lviv, Kaiserwald Park at the source of the stream under the stone.
8 mm
Presumably some kind of bembidion Sinechostictus ? confused.gif


Isn't it Paranchus albipes ? Here at Buzman-and looked in the reports.
Beautiful reports ,and most importantly, everything is detailed.
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