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09.10.2006 6:58, sealor

Help me clarify what these scoops are called? And yet, for fans of hemi-and coleoptera, who are they?

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09.10.2006 16:01, Bad Den

Ladybug (coleopt.jpg) - Coccinula quatuordecimpustulata L.

09.10.2006 16:42, sealor

Bad Den, thank you! In general, I wonder how many species of them we have, these cows, I probably already found about 7 species. But probably there are no large ones among them except for the seven-point one, all small ones, this one is smaller than the match head.

BO., your fly is probably 0.8 cm, right? A fly of 0.8 mm probably does not happen, at least in length. Or does it happen anyway?

This post was edited by sealor - 09.10.2006 18: 38
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09.10.2006 18:33, Bad Den

2 sealor:
By t. 2 of the" Determiner of insects of the European part of the USSR", 85 species are indicated for this very European part, but in fact, it seems to me, there are more of them.
The largest ones are Coccinella distincta (up to 8 mm), C. septempunctata (up to 8 mm), Myrrha oblongoguttata (up to 8 mm), Anatis ocellata (up to 9 mm) .

11.10.2006 15:52, Old BeaveR

picture: 061011_153235.jpgAnd who will come out of it.
The object fell from a tree in Odessa, I can also post a photo of the tree:)

11.10.2006 18:22, Pavel Morozov

Hello!
please tell me who it is?

Sicklewing Drepana lacertinaria

11.10.2006 18:24, Pavel Morozov

  picture: 061011_153235.jpgAnd who will come out of it.
The object fell from a tree in Odessa, I can also post a photo of the tree:)

What tree did it fall from?
Painfully similar to the dark shape of a death's head caterpillar. The photo is just not very clear.

12.10.2006 23:00, Kristy

Sickle-fly Drepana lacertinaria


Wow! Thanks! And I was looking among the moths smile.gif
Who's that?"

14.10.2006 10:35, Pavel Morozov

Wow! Thanks! And I was looking among the moths smile.gif
Who's that?"

and this will be more interesting. It is an introduced moth species Larerannis orthogrammaria
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14.10.2006 13:58, guest: Helen

Hello!
Please help me identify the butterfly:
http://keep4u.ru/full/0610/3338d5ca1e8f71d9db/jpg
Thank you in advance to everyone who responds.

14.10.2006 14:30, RippeR

It looks like a tropical nymphalid, that's all I know.

14.10.2006 16:17, Kristy

and this will be more interesting. It is an introduced moth species Larerannis orthogrammaria

Morozzz, thank you very much! Really funny.
And please tell me, who is this who? Plum moth or someone else?

14.10.2006 20:15, guest: Helen

It looks like a tropical nymphalid, that's all I know.

Thank you very much, but need more specific information shuffle.gif

14.10.2006 20:54, Shofffer

Please help me identify the butterfly:
http://keep4u.ru/full/0610/3338d5ca1e8f71d9db/jpg

You should at least write down where she came from...

14.10.2006 21:22, guest: Helen

You should at least write down where she came from...

If only I knew how... I only have a picture.
The second day I wander around the Internet in search of a clue. wall.gif My eyes are already rippling with butterflies. I never thought there were SO MANY of them!
Only hope for local experts remained. Don't let it go to waste, good people! mol.gif

14.10.2006 22:02, Kristy

Hello!
Please help me identify the butterfly:
http://keep4u.ru/full/0610/3338d5ca1e8f71d9db/jpg
Thank you in advance to everyone who responds.


Helen, this is probably someone from the Callicore family
look here
http://www.insectcompany.com/gallery/callicore.shtml

14.10.2006 22:27, Pavel Morozov

Morozzz, thank you very much! Really funny.
And please tell me, who is this who? Plum moth or someone else?

That's right, this is the plum moth (Angerona prunaria).
Question for you: where did you find L. orthogrammaria?

14.10.2006 22:51, Kristy

That's right, this is the plum moth (Angerona prunaria).
Question for you: where did you find L. orthogrammaria?

three males were caught: one in the Moscow region, Mytishchi, Northern Forest Park on October 12
, 2005, and two in the same place on October 01, 2005.
what was the outcome of your conversation with Hellen in the parallel branch about where it was first discovered?

This post was edited by Kristy - 10/15/2006 14: 55

15.10.2006 0:25, Kristy

and how common is this form of plum moth?
By the way, it is also larger in size.
and it's a female! it seemed to me that only males have this color, and females are monophonic and pale.

15.10.2006 20:28, Pavel Morozov

and how common is this form of plum moth?
By the way, it is also larger in size.
and it's a female! it seemed to me that only males have this color, and females are monophonic and pale.

Quite common. But in different years - in different ways. Last year, most of them came across, but in some years, not a single one of them arrives.
The distribution of Larerannis orthogrammaria is not entirely clear, it is clear that it got to Moscow by some Far Eastern plant brought to parks. There are such places in Korolev, for example, and there is nothing to say about the Botanical Garden.

15.10.2006 22:38, guest: Helen

Helen, this is probably someone from the Callicore family
look here
http://www.insectcompany.com/gallery/callicore.shtml

Kristy, thanks for the tip. That's what "special" meansumnik.gif, and I looked at these Callicores and didn't see the resemblance to my butterfly at close range. Nowsmile.gif, do you think it will be realistic to determine the species, or can you not even try? confused.gif

16.10.2006 0:12, Kristy

I'm not really an expert. And even more so in the tropics. But it seems to me that this is more of an Asian species than a South American one.
Can I ask you a counter-question?
Why do you care so much about the photo of this butterfly? :-)

16.10.2006 23:54, Kristy

Please help me define the view

17.10.2006 20:03, Pavel Morozov

to Kristy: moth Hypomecis roboraria.
When was it caught?
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17.10.2006 21:34, Kristy

to Kristy: moth Hypomecis roboraria.
When was it caught?

Moscow region, Lyuberetsky district, surrounding platf. Tomilino June 27, 2004

Why did you define it as roboraria? Why not, say, cinctaria or abietaria or something?
According to Lampert, roboraria has ash-gray wings. And on the Internet, it's gray everywhere. My own brown one. Exactly the same color as in the photo.

18.10.2006 20:59, Pavel Morozov

Moscow region, Lyuberetsky district, surrounding platf. Tomilino June 27, 2004

Why did you define it as roboraria? Why not, say, cinctaria or abietaria or something?
According to Lampert, roboraria has ash-gray wings. And on the Internet, it's gray everywhere. My own brown one. Exactly the same color as in the photo.

This is just a male roboraria. This species is very variable, often dark, even black forms, I caught these myself this summer.
Cleora cinctaria flies in the spring in April-May, it looks different. Lampert should not be completely trusted. There are hand-drawn images, and if this is a modern reprint, then the quality, believe me, is no good. In addition, it is better to identify similar butterflies in a series, at least where they are all depicted together at the same time. So you can immediately see the differences in size, color, and nature of the drawing.
Eupithecia abietaria has nothing in common with roboraria at all, it is two or three times smaller, the pattern is completely different, and these butterflies belong to different subfamilies (Hypomecis roboraria belongs to Ennominae, and Eupithecia abietaria belongs to Larentinae.
I can recommend such books as Koch "Wir bestimmen Schmetterlinge", Jaroslaw Falcik "Die Schmetterlinge Mittel-und Nordeuropas".
One of the sites is quite good www.leps.it

18.10.2006 22:30, Kristy

Yes, I know this site, thank you. And I check it. I was confused by the butterfly color and the scuffs. Because I haven't seen it before, either in a single copy, or, especially, in a series. That's why I have difficulties when the natural copy does not match the drawn ones. I use a couple more sites:
http://www2.nrm.se/en/svenska_fjarilar/sve...html#Hepialidae

http://www.lepidoptera.bai.pl/start.php?lang=UK

and tell me, who is this mustachioed man? and why does he need such brooms?

18.10.2006 22:38, Vlad Proklov


and tell me, who is this mustachioed man? and why does he need such brooms?


Shovel Pechipogo strigilata.
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18.10.2006 22:52, Kristy

spasibochki :- )
and these?

This post was edited by Kristy - 10/18/2006 23: 01

19.10.2006 9:48, Pavel Morozov

spasibochki :- )
and these?

butterfly on the left flour fire Pyralis farinalis
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19.10.2006 17:31, Kristy

please help me identify these worms

19.10.2006 18:17, Shofffer

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19.10.2006 18:43, Kristy

Thanks!
I found the other one. This is the arrowhead maple Acronicta aceris, right?

19.10.2006 22:46, Kristy

Good people, help me, who can do what!: -))
after several sleepless nights, I have to admit my defeat in determining larentions. I looked at the width of the stripes and the shape and how they expand or narrow, ... etc. etc. But I can't say for sure which of them is which.
I don't understand anything anymore, and my eyes are blurry.

This post was edited by Kristy - 19.10.2006 22: 49

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20.10.2006 10:03, Bad Den

My IMHO, as they say "unclouded view": 3,4,5,6 is the same view confused.gif

20.10.2006 16:09, Kristy

I assume that 1 and 2 are ferrugata. only for some reason, the 2 strip is not solid, but clearly divided into several zigzag lines.
And it is possible that the second one is galiata or suffumata, judging by the nature of the bend in the band boundaries.

3 and 5 are one species, possibly unangulata. They have a band that expands to the edges.

4 and 6 are the same species, possibly alternata. Their band narrows to the edges.

In general, a complete mess.

confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif

This post was edited by Kristy - 10/20/2006 16: 34

20.10.2006 19:46, Pavel Morozov

It's simple:
# 1,2 Xanthorhoe quadrifasciata (it seems to be similar to such females)
#3,5 Xanthorhoe biriviata
#4,6 Epirrhoe alternata
no galliate and suffumate exactly.

20.10.2006 20:16, Kristy

Can you explain why biriviata and not unangulata?

Why isn't # 2 exactly galiata or suffumata?

The left image is very small, here's a bigger one. As far as I understand, this is a male. So who is it?

This post was edited by Kristy - 10/20/2006 20: 22

21.10.2006 12:57, Pavel Morozov

Wow, and #6 is not alternata, but rivata (more pointed top of the upper wing, contrasting color)
unangulata means "one-sided". The median dark band (field) forms an angle with the tip facing the middle of the outer edge of the wing, the outer edges of the band are even.
In biriviata, the" tip " of this angle is directed not to the middle, but to the upper third of the front edge of the wing. Just on your copies of this pattern.
#2 definitely not galliata, since galliata does not have red, the median band is very dark, the color is more contrasting, especially not suffumata, which is much darker and has a well-defined dark basal spot, similar to a rhombus.
But #1 and # 2, when zoomed in, look more like a flying male and female Xanthorhoe ferrugata (there is a marginal" bifurcated " dark spot on the front wing and the outer corner of the dark median band is blunt and its apex is bifurcated). I'll drop you a hand-drawn key to defining these types in your email address.
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21.10.2006 16:51, Kristy

Ouch! Rivata is also added here! :- Oh
Morozzz, thank you so much!!!
Email address
kristywhite@yandex.ru The key - that would be just fine! I will deal with these angles!

And then I'll send you more photos shuffle.gif

This post was edited by Kristy - 10/21/2006 16: 56

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