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23.10.2006 20:15, Kristy

Morozzz, I got the drawing!!! Cool!
Thank you very much for your help!
I wanted to clarify, is this butterfly a quadrifasciata?

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23.10.2006 20:24, Kristy

female montanata??

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23.10.2006 20:27, Kristy

in order: female and male ocellata?

This post was edited by Kristy - 23.10.2006 20: 28

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26.10.2006 15:31, Pavel Morozov

Morozzz, I got the drawing!!! Cool!
Thank you very much for your help!
I wanted to clarify, is this butterfly a quadrifasciata?

yes, it is.

26.10.2006 15:33, Pavel Morozov

to Kristy: exactly, montanata and ocellata.

27.10.2006 4:43, okoem

Greetings!

Help me identify a butterfly that was sitting in gnilushki in the west of Moscow region smile.gif



It is probably
Agonopterix alstromeriana (Clerck, 1759).
Flat hemlock moth Oecophoridae-
Broad-winged moths

This post was edited by okoem - 10/27/2006 04: 44

27.10.2006 11:45, okoem

And about my caterpillar (above), does anyone have any suggestions?

Assumptions appeared:-)
On the site Leps.it similar caterpillars in the following species:
Euplexia euplexina
Jodia croceago
Phlogophora methiculosa
Agrotis puta
Epipsilia grisescens
Noctua comes
Peridroma saucia Xestia
rhomboidea I
think you need to look somewhere among the Noctuinae

But on my tracks, does anyone have any thoughts?:- )
Filmed in Crimea.

102-02-May, steppe, on this plant. Yasnotkovyh
112-20 and 113-22-July-August, steppe, on this plant. Skabiozovykh
116-31-September, mountain steppe, caterpillars fed on dry parts (seeds?) various plants - chicory, wild garlic..

This post was edited by okoem - 10/27/2006 11:47 am

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08.11.2006 12:07, Khlinoff

tell me, is this melanagria galatea???

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08.11.2006 12:13, Vlad Proklov

tell me, is this melanagria galatea???

No, it's Melanargia russiae. And where was it caught?

08.11.2006 13:01, Khlinoff

No, it's Melanargia russiae. And where was it caught?

thank you! I just haven't seen enough images of other melanagrias.
caught it in the forest-steppe part of Yu.The Urals. or is it more accurate for you?

09.11.2006 10:11, Nilson

thank you! I just haven't seen enough images of other melanagrias.
caught it in the forest-steppe part of Yu.The Urals. or is it more accurate for you?

Indeed, by area, it is most likely M. russiae. Check out the scans from Tuzov:
http://rusinsects.com/satyrid/s-me-rus.htm

22.11.2006 22:48, BO.

Today they brought a hawk moth ( -7C on the street), warmed up at home and flew frown.gifaway, I hope it will be on the window in the morning. ) I assume someone from the daytime. The fenders are bright orange, like an orange. Help me determine it. Astrakhan region 22.11.2006

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22.11.2006 23:46, guest: Zhuk

Macroglossum stellatarum (Linnaeus, 1758)

23.11.2006 21:06, Kristy

Hello!
Please help me, tell me who is in these photos.

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23.11.2006 21:36, Pavel Morozov

to V. O.
This is a hawk moth called Macroglossum stellatarum.
In the south, it can also appear as an adult in winter.

23.11.2006 21:40, Pavel Morozov

to Kristy:
the first two books from Paradarisa consonaria

the third is Deileptenia ribeata (although so flown that it is similar to Peribatodes rhomboidaria), it still looks more like D. ribeata.

Fourth (lower) - Serraca punctinalis
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23.11.2006 21:50, Kristy

Wow! Thank you!: -)

23.11.2006 22:02, BO.

to V. O.
This is a hawk moth called Macroglossum stellatarum.
In the south, it can also appear as an adult in winter.

Thanks ! I was confused by the color, in summer the color was gray (mouse), and in this one it gives off redness.

23.11.2006 22:30, taler

Typical Macroglossum stellatarum .daytime, small hawk moth.It has an extensive habitat.

24.11.2006 22:14, Kristy

I post another series of photos and along the way this is the question: when the answer is received, maybe it makes sense to delete old pictures from the question? to speed up page loading. And? No one bothers with such an abundance of images?

and new photos here:
and the question, sobsno, the same: -)
who is it?

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24.11.2006 23:10, Necrocephalus

I post another series of photos and along the way this is the question: when the answer is received, maybe it makes sense to delete old pictures from the question? to speed up page loading. And? No one bothers with such an abundance of images?


It seems to me that you should not delete it - the more people who see the image, the more chances that the correct name will be found out. After all, there is no guarantee that the first response received (after which the image will be deleted) will be correct. And those who do not give answers, but just browse the topic, are primarily interested in photos.
Personally, I generally disable the display of graphics in the browser (I save trafficsmile.gif), and I load what interests me selectively.

25.11.2006 1:16, Pavel Morozov

to Kristy: this is all the moth Ectropis bistortata (crepuscularia). It's so changeable.
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25.11.2006 4:17, Tigran Oganesov

I post another series of photos and along the way this is the question: when the answer is received, maybe it makes sense to delete old pictures from the question? to speed up page loading. And? No one bothers with such an abundance of images?
Let them be, maybe someone else will come in handy. If it takes a long time to load, act like Necrocephalus, it's really convenient. Another thing is that you need to sort it out somehow. Here I gather my courage wink.gif...

25.11.2006 13:14, Kristy

Necrocephalus, Bolivar, understood, thank you. That's what I'll do. It's cool - I use Opera.... but every time I forget to disable images. What if I miss something interesting :-)))

Morozzz, thank you for your help! Now I'll deal with all this stuff. And when I figure it out, most likely there will be a lot more questions and clarifications on these types. And then I'll ask again :-)
And here is another speck left out of work. Past. The last of the Mohcans, so to speak. So, dear experts, a question.......

Who is it? :-)

This post was edited by Kristy - 25.11.2006 13: 15

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25.11.2006 23:33, Pavel Morozov

to Kristy:
A very shabby copy!
Similar to Serraca punctinalis.

26.11.2006 0:31, Kristy

is it Lomaspilis marginata or Lomaspilis opis?

This post was edited by Kristy - 26.11.2006 00: 34

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26.11.2006 21:54, Pavel Morozov

This is Lomaspilis marginata.

26.11.2006 23:06, Kristy

and how to distinguish between Lomaspilis marginata and Lomaspilis opis?

28.11.2006 15:24, Pavel Morozov

words are not so easy to convey. I'll drop you a photo of both types now
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28.11.2006 23:18, Pavel Morozov

I decided to post it on the forum. Maybe someone else is interested.

This post was edited by Morozzz - 11/28/2006 23: 21
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07.12.2006 1:11, клайд

Morozzz

Please tell me if the taxonomy of the moth moth family presented in the "GALLERY OF INSECTS"is correct? http://www.galleryinsects.narod.ru/title.html

Thank You

07.12.2006 1:53, Vlad Proklov

Morozzz

Please tell me if the taxonomy of the moth moth family presented in the "GALLERY OF INSECTS"is correct? http://www.galleryinsects.narod.ru/title.html

Thanks


In this matter, I would trust Tony Pittaway (who has some of the pictures and is stubborn):
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/sphinx/list.htm
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/china.htm

07.12.2006 8:41, Сергей-Д

Is it possible to distinguish Everes decoloratus from alcetas only by the undergarments in the photo? I accidentally found Argiades among the photos. If so, please tell us who is in the photo.
At the same time, help determine the scoop. Then I'll post a couple of dozen more types to define them.
picture: Everes_decoloratus_____.jpg
picture: Hadena_____________2006_______________.jpg

07.12.2006 13:24, bora

To Sergey D. Putin. Without the top in the case of these pigeons is difficult.
The first is E. decoloratus, the second is E. argiades.

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07.12.2006 13:58, Aurelian

Is it possible to distinguish Everes decoloratus from alcetas only by the undergarments in the photo?


This is quite difficult, and there are no reliable signs. Generally, alcetas have shorter tails than decoloratus; in addition, alcetas are on average larger. By the way, where is the butterfly photographed?

08.12.2006 10:36, Сергей-Д

to bora
is difficult, but it is possible by the orange spots, in the photo, in general, they differ, the coloratus has one, and sometimes it turns into gray. Well, I couldn't catch it, I didn't notice it among the argiads, and I looked at the photo at home, so there's no way at the top. I haven't seen them since
to aurelian
Severodonetsk, Luhansk region, Ukraine

help me figure out the scoops
1. It's Eublemma, that's what it is. On leps.it the fish is similar-Eublemma candidana, but according to the Catalog of scoops of Ukraine, it was caught in the penultimate century and in the Odessa region. And so it looks similar. Maybe there are other similar types?
picture: Eublemma_minitata_____pulchralis_1_1________.jpgpicture: Eublemma_minitata_____pulchralis_2_1________.jpgpicture: Eublemma_minitata_____pulchralis_2_2________.jpg
2. With scoops Heliothis is also unclear. Here is a photo, I'll throw a couple of photos on Monday-is this all one view or several? externally, can you distinguish or again everything rests on the genitals?
picture: Heliothis_sp._13.09.2004__.___.______________.jpg
picture: Heliothis_sp._13.09.2004__.___._____________.jpg
picture: Heliothis_sp._28.28.2005___.jpg
image: Heliothis_sp.2.jpg
3. Do Diachrysia chrysitis and tutti have clear external distinguishing features?
If so, who is it?
picture: Diachrysia_chrysidis_22.07.2004__________________________.jpg
picture: Diachrysia_chrysitis_1_3_________.jpg
I would like to hear the opinions of Morozzz, okoem, where are you? )

08.12.2006 10:50, bora

To Sergey D. Indeed, your specimen has an orange hole. one and strongly reduced (but this also happens in E. argiades). In addition, in your photo on the underside of the front wings, the post-radical spots are very rounded, and a number of these spots can be seen that they are curved. Geographically, the butterfly is located within the range of E. decoloratus. So it's probably him. It flies in late May and the second half of July. It tends towards the edges of the forest.

08.12.2006 11:06, Vlad Proklov


help me figure out the scoops
1. It's Eublemma, that's what it is. On leps.it the fish is similar-Eublemma candidana, but according to the Catalog of scoops of Ukraine, it was caught in the penultimate century and in the Odessa region. And so it looks similar. Maybe there are other similar types?
2. With scoops Heliothis is also unclear. Here is a photo, I'll throw a couple of photos on Monday-is this all one view or several? externally, can you distinguish or again everything rests on the genitals?
3. Do Diachrysia chrysitis and tutti have clear external distinguishing features?
If so, who is it?
I would like to hear the opinions of Morozzz, okoem, where are you?)


1) This is Eublemma minutata.
2) Like all Helicoverpa armigera. I caught them in Portugal this fall and also at first thought that they were different species smile.gif
3) Unlikely. By the way, the conspecificity of West Palaearctic tutti and East Palaearctic stenochrysis has now been shown. The last name takes precedence.

This post was edited by kotbegemot-08.12.2006 11: 09

09.12.2006 22:32, Pavel Morozov

H. armigera exactly. Very changeable scoop.
In the second picture - exactly tutti.
There is an opinion, though not reasoned, that both similar types are the same thing.
The presence of a large number of instances with a transition color is confusing.
Muddy butterfly, in a word.

11.12.2006 9:10, Сергей-Д

Thanks to kotbegemot and Morozzz!
Here's another pepper scoop on the definition.
picture: Eublemma_sp._22.05.2005__________________.jpgpicture: Hadena_luteago_22.05.2000__.___._____________________.jpgpicture: Hadena_sp._10.08.2006______________.jpgpicture: Hadena_____________2006_15.08.2006______________.jpg[attachmenti
d()=14911]picture: Proem_strigilis________________.jpgpicture: Pyrrhia_umbra_7.07.1999__________________.jpgpicture: ______crassa___________17.08.1999__________________.jpgpicture: ______RA_______________15.09.2006_.jpg[a
ttachmentid()=14916]picture: ____________.jpgpicture: _______2_10.06.2000__________________.jpgpicture: ____________1_______________2.10.2006_.jpg[attachmentid(
)=14920]picture: ___________________11.08.2004__________________.jpg

Please see if Hyphantria cunea is in the topic or not http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=114034
Thank you in advance.

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