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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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12.05.2007 11:07, Zhuk

4 - Gluphisia crenata (=crenata rurea) (Notodontidae)
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12.05.2007 13:59, Guest

5-is it Mesapamea secalis?
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12.05.2007 15:14, Vlad Proklov

5-is it Mesapamea secalis?

Oh, also a variant. M. secalis or M. secalella (=didyma). In general, it is necessary to cook them, these comrades.

12.05.2007 17:30, Sungaya

tell me what kind of butterflies

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12.05.2007 17:35, Sungaya

And these, please.
Both from the UAE, Ras Al Khaimah.

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12.05.2007 17:39, Zhuk

tell me what kind of butterflies


Some kind of Cossidae.
How cool! I want the same onessmile.gif

This post was edited by Zhuk-12.05.2007 17: 40

12.05.2007 17:40, Vlad Proklov

tell me what kind of butterflies

These are pestlyanki from the Far East. Similar to Pryeria sinica But this view, or something similar , I don't know.

12.05.2007 17:43, Zhuk

I would never have thought that this is a motley birdsmile.gif.

12.05.2007 17:51, Vlad Proklov

And these, please.
Both from the UAE, Ras Al Khaimah.

Some scoops, roughly from Acontiinae/Eustrotiinae. The second one looks like Metachrostis sp.. In some issues of Esperiana there were works on Yemen - it would be worth a look there.

12.05.2007 17:53, Sungaya

These are pestlyanki from the Far East. Similar to Pryeria sinica But this view, or something similar , I don't know.

I don't think they are. In mine, especially in the female, there are spots on the abdomen, like in our little bears.
But thanks anyway!

12.05.2007 17:59, Sungaya

Some scoops, roughly from Acontiinae/Eustrotiinae. The second one looks like Metachrostis sp.. In some issues of Esperiana there were works on Yemen - it would be worth a look there.

And the upper scoop? Not ognevka?

12.05.2007 18:01, Zhuk

And the upper scoop? Not ognevka?

A dustpan.
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12.05.2007 18:08, Vlad Proklov

I don't think they are. In mine, especially in the female, there are spots on the abdomen, like in our little bears.
But thanks anyway!

Another similar pestryanka: Pseudopsyche dembowskii
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12.05.2007 18:25, Sungaya

Another similar pestryanka: Pseudopsyche dembowskii

Oh! this one is very similar!
Does Dubatolov have a complete list of species?

12.05.2007 18:37, Vlad Proklov


Does Dubatolov have a complete list of species?

This is a list of what they have in the museum, I understand.

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 05/12/2007 18: 38

12.05.2007 19:33, Sungaya

All from the Moscow region.
Help please. Who is it?

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12.05.2007 19:50, Vlad Proklov

All from the Moscow region.
Help please. Who is it?

3 - Cosmia affinis (Noctuidae).
4 - Aphomia sociella (Pyralidae).
5 - ?Paratalanta pandalis (Crambidae).
6 - Sitochroa verticalis (Crambidae).
7 - too broken ?Ognevka, I won't take it.
8 - Diurnea ?fagella (Chimabachidae).
9 - Perinephela lancealis (Crambidae).
10 - Aglossa pinguinalis (Pyralidae).
11 - Nemophora metallica (Adelidae).

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 05/12/2007 19: 51
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13.05.2007 0:19, BO.

Help me determine it.
Astrakhan region.

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13.05.2007 1:08, nimu

Help plz determine the scoop(?)
And tell me is this one species or different or male-female or variability of the species?
The difference in size + in the second one, the lower wings are much lighter(unfortunately not visible in the photo), and there are no dark dots on them.
Oba Moscow region June, on light.

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13.05.2007 1:59, Vlad Proklov

Help plz determine the scoop(?)
And tell me is this one species or different or male-female or variability of the species?
The difference in size + in the second one, the lower wings are much lighter(unfortunately not visible in the photo), and there are no dark dots on them.
Oba Moscow region June, on light.

One species, both seem to be males -- Axylia putris.
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13.05.2007 2:00, Vlad Proklov

Help me determine it.
Astrakhan region.

Celastrina argiolus

13.05.2007 3:29, nimu

Help plz determine the scoop.
All Moscow region. to the light.

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13.05.2007 3:35, nimu

Ouch! Toko sechas noticed that 3 and 4 seem to be the same.

13.05.2007 5:56, Vlad Proklov

Help plz determine the scoop.
All Moscow region. to the light.

1 - Ochropleura plecta
2 - Mythimna turca
3 and 4-apparently both Mniotype satura (formerly known as Blepharita satura)
5-Macdunnoughia confusa
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13.05.2007 21:27, Pavel Morozov

3 and 4 are definitely not M. satura.
both are Lacanobia w-latinum.

In M. satura, the background of the forewings is almost black, the shape of the round and reniform spots is different.
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13.05.2007 21:58, Vlad Proklov

3 and 4 are definitely not M. satura.
both are Lacanobia w-latinum.

Yes, your truth.
The main thing is that I know L. w-latinum, I have them in my garden occasionally - but in London they are lighter. Did not recognize smile.gif

13.05.2007 22:39, Sungaya

somewhere in this thread, there was a question about the differences between Diachrysia chrysitis and Diachrysia stenochrysis.
Matov A. Yu., Candidate of Biological Sciences, Junior Researcher of the Department of Lepidoptera of the Laboratory of Insect Systematics of the Zoological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

"...If a golden-green lintel in a brown field is solid (regardless of width), completely connects, like a bridge, both green fields, then this is Diachrysia stenochrysis ... If the gap in the brown field is only outlined (it doesn't matter - slightly or with deep golden-green "cuts" along the edges of the brown field), then this is all Diachrysia chrysitis. And if the brown field is without any hints of a golden-green lintel in the form of side cutouts, then this is, all the more, Diachrysia chrysitis. The background color does not matter, although D. stenochrysis usually has a bright golden hue, and D. chrysitis is bluish.
The name D. stenochrysis is indeed valid and has a significant age priority (almost half a century) over tutti. It's just that many people are used to tutti (which, by the way, was described as aberration), so they use it (especially, probably, on the Internet). However, this name is not valid and you should use stenochrysis. The independence of these two species has recently been definitively proved by molecular biological methods... "
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14.05.2007 9:31, svm2

[quote=Morozzz,13.05.2007 22:27]

14.05.2007 13:06, Сергей-Д

I took a picture of such a fire the other day, but it only sits on the underside of the leaves in a low treva, I couldn't take a better picture. If you can tell who it is from this photo, please tell me.
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14.05.2007 17:44, Pavel Morozov

[quote=svm2, 14.05.2007 10: 31] 3 and 4 are definitely not M. satura.
both are Lacanobia w-latinum.
why not thalassina, especially 3
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If it's talassina, then not 3, but 4! Even then, it is doubtful.

This post was edited by Morozzz - 05/14/2007 17: 45

15.05.2007 7:37, Сергей-Д

to kotbegemot:
as answered on May 11:
>It seems that everything is correct, except for the fifth photo: in my opinion, this is Crambus pratella (in the modern sense of this name).
this is which Crambus hamella_2 I call names? And by what sign did you distinguish it from hamella?
And the gray ognevka, the last posted by me on 08.05.2007, is not Epischnia prodromella by any chance?
For Loxostege huebneri, many thanks, for a long time it hung in uncertain conditions. By the way, the link is interesting, there are a lot of pictures of fire pits

This post was edited by Sergey_D-15.05.2007 12: 35

15.05.2007 8:08, svm2

If it's talassina, then not 3, but 4! And then, doubtful

According to these pictures, it is difficult to say that either, but please pay attention to the sub-edge w-shaped line, in my opinion it is like thalassina. Here they are compared.

http://macrolepidoptera.hu/index.php?s=4&sid=779&g=0&cd=d41

15.05.2007 14:05, Vlad Proklov

to kotbegemot:
as answered on May 11:
>It seems that everything is correct, except for the fifth photo: in my opinion, this is Crambus pratella (in the modern sense of this name).
this is which Crambus hamella_2 I call names? And by what sign did you distinguish it from hamella?

Hamella has a wider white stripe in the center of the wing feathers.

15.05.2007 17:40, nimu

Help plz determine the scoop.
All to the light.
16-Rostov, the rest of the Moscow region
. Zy. I apologize in advance if the same ones come across.

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15.05.2007 17:47, nimu

and this is

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15.05.2007 19:32, Vlad Proklov

Help plz determine the scoop.
16-Rostov, the rest of the Moscow region.

What I could do. It seems like this, if something happens-the comrades will correct it:
1 - Caradrina (Caradrina) morpheus
2 - ?Xestia sexstrigata
3-Hydraecia micacea or H. ultima. The first one is normal, the second one is less common.
4 - Agrotis segetum
5 - ?Cosmia pyralina broken (?)
7 - ?Enargia paleacea
8 - Agrotis segetum
9 - Pyrrhia umbra
11 - Agrotis segetum
16-Mythimna sp. ,M. B. banal M. ferrago?
17 - Amphipoea sp. A. fucosa is a common species in the middle zone, but A. oculea, A. lucens, and A. crinanensis are also found (much less frequently). The exact definition is based on the genitals.
19-Caradrina (Paradrina) clavipalpis, most likely. This group is depressing.
20-Lithophane socia, it seems.
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15.05.2007 20:31, Zhuk

10 - Acronicta sp. (rumicis?)
12-Chortodes fluxa
13 - Agrochola circellaris
14-in my opinion also Agrotis segetum
15-Rusina ferruginea (=Rusina umbratica)
16-exactly Mythimna ferrago
18-Apamea crenata (=Apamea rurea)

This post was edited by Zhuk - 15.05.2007 20: 39
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15.05.2007 20:41, nimu

To Kotbegemot/
Explain plz;
4-Agrotis segetum
8-Agrotis segetum
11-Agrotis segetum
Looked again, 4 and 11 have pinnate antennae, and 8 have setae. Is it male-female?

15.05.2007 20:53, Vlad Proklov

To Kotbegemot/
Explain plz;
4-Agrotis segetum
8-Agrotis segetum
11-Agrotis segetum
Looked again, 4 and 11 have pinnate antennae, and 8 have setae. Is it male-female?

The fourteenth, too. Yes, the males are feathery.
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15.05.2007 21:23, Tyomochkin

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Maybe it was, I don't know. In general, I got out of kuolka. I can't tell if it's just her coloring, or if she's worn out! IN GENERAL, WHO IS THIS?

This post was edited by Tyomochkin - 05/15/2007 21: 24

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