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02.05.2007 14:40, Vlad Proklov

Good afternoon! I have new UFOs from the library for 2004. Please help me figure out how to define up to a type.

1 - Agriphila ?tristella, Crambidae.
2-First thought -- Spilosoma urticae, Arctiidae. But then I wondered if it was the American white butterfly Hyphantria cunea. Isolated instances of it are known from the Tula and Vladimir regions (flights or drifts), so anything can happen. Personally, I don't know this species.
3 - Scopula immorata, Geometridae.

5 - This is not a butterfly, but a net-winged gemera Drepanepteryx ?phalaenoides.
6 - Calliteara pudibunda, Lymantriidae. It has emerged from the chrysalis and is spreading its wings.
7-I don't know, maybe some firefly from Pyraustinae (Crambidae).
8 - Autographa gamma, Noctuidae.
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02.05.2007 14:54, okoem

1 - something from Crambinae
2-probably Spilosoma urticae (Esper, 1789) -
Wren bear 3-firefly?
4 is not a butterfly. Not caddisfly, not hemerob.
6-probably Calliteara pudibunda (Linnaeus, 1758) - Shy woolpaw, redtail
7-Helicoverpa armigera (Hubner, [1808]) - Bristle-footed mignonette, Cotton
scoop 8-Autographa gamma (Linnaeus, 1758) - Metalloid gamma, Flax scoop

update: Sorry for the repetitions; my forum doesn't automatically update.

This post was edited by okoem - 05/02/2007 14: 57
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02.05.2007 15:08, Sv Kononova

Thank you very much!

The last UFO -

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I thought it was Aphantopus hyperantus (Flower eye), but very shabby. Or am I wrong?

02.05.2007 15:15, omar

No, it's not him. This is something more worthwhile. Moscow region?

02.05.2007 15:16, Vlad Proklov

Thank you very much!

The last UFO -

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I thought it was Aphantopus hyperantus (Flower eye), but very shabby. Or am I wrong?

No, this is a large-eyed bird (Lopinga achine).
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03.05.2007 7:04, Sv Kononova

Please tell me, is this the spring uniform of Araschnia levana?

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03.05.2007 7:23, RippeR

no, this is a polychrome black-red Nymphalis xanthomelas Esper, 1781 in my smile.gifopinion
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03.05.2007 9:32, Bad Den

Figure 5-Net-winged Drepanepteryx phalaenoides (Neuroptera, Hemerobiidae)
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03.05.2007 10:07, Guest

No, it's still Nymphalis polychloros L.
(Polychlorum ie)
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03.05.2007 18:07, Sv Kononova

But this is one of the thick-headed ones (Hesperiidae)?
If necessary, I have slightly different angles.
My belly is too thick and shaggy eek.gif

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Moscow region, 2003

03.05.2007 18:18, Zhuk

But this is one of the thick-headed ones (Hesperiidae)?

A threadlike mustache doesn't bother you? smile.gif
This is the moth Autographa gamma (Linnaeus, 1758).

This post was edited by Zhuk-03.05.2007 18: 19
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03.05.2007 18:25, Sv Kononova

A threadlike mustache doesn't bother you? smile.gif
This is the moth Autographa gamma (Linnaeus, 1758).

Now I am already confused by your assumption about the type of this butterfly...
I have a linen dustpan. Here it is:

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And it doesn't look anything like the one I asked about today...

Where is the truth? wall.gif

03.05.2007 18:40, Zhuk

This is also gamma. The most common species of this genus.
Do you have a photo of the previous scoop on top?

03.05.2007 18:52, Sv Kononova

This is also gamma. The most common species of this genus.

I don't understand anything... They fold their wings in a completely different way!...
How is this possible?
And the pattern on the wings is different...
I don't understand...


Do you have a photo of the previous scoop on top?

There is.
Here they are:

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03.05.2007 19:07, Sungaya

this is Autographa mandarina (Freyer, 1845)

03.05.2007 19:08, Zhuk

Damn, I had to get out of the collection smile.gif. All photos are gamma.
I don't understand anything... They fold their wings in a completely different way!...
How is this possible?
And the pattern on the wings is different...
I don't understand...

It's just that you have it in the photo in a resting position and during the flight there is. And their drawing is changeable.

03.05.2007 19:21, RippeR

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Why polychloros? White spots in the upper part of the upper wings speak for xanthomelas, as well as more even outlines of black spots.. ?

03.05.2007 19:22, Zhuk

this is Autographa mandarina (Freyer, 1845)

Really? smile.gif I almost forgot about it.
So where on the flower is A. mandarina, and where on the leaf is A. gamma. Like that.

This post was edited by Zhuk - 03.05.2007 19: 22

03.05.2007 19:25, Sv Kononova

So where on the flower is A. mandarina, and where on the leaf is A. gamma. Like that.


I'm confused...
Where is the flower and where is the leaf?

Davaytek is better to focus on the location of the shooting: one (with folded wings) was shot in Sochi, and on five similar shots-another, photographed in the Moscow region.

So where's who?

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03.05.2007 19:27, Zhuk

smile.gif
Sochi-
gamma Moscow Region-mandarina
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03.05.2007 19:30, Sungaya

yes: -)
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03.05.2007 20:11, Sv Kononova

I read that Autographa mandarina is listed in the Red Book of the Moscow Region (Category 3; rare species). Two habitats are protected on the territory of the Prioksko-Terrasny Nature Reserve and a natural monument (Balashikha district).
So, to us - in the Podolsky district - it flew from the Prioksko-Terasny Nature Reserve smile.gif

It's just a pity that, analyzing the photo library over the past years, I come to a completely unambiguous and deeply disappointing conclusion: the species diversity of our fauna near Moscow is not just narrowing, but tends to a banal and simply frightening zero ...
If earlier I went out into the field and could spend hours photographing more and more new insects, now I will shoot five or six species in the same two or three hours-no more frown.gif
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03.05.2007 20:15, Sv Kononova

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Why polychloros? The white spots at the top of the upper wings speak for xanthomelas, as do the more even outlines of the black spots.?


I was told in the mail that the main thing in this case is the color of the legs.
And they are just not visible frown.gif
In Nymphalis polychloros, they are black, and in Nymphalis xanthomelas, they are brown.
So I'll have to settle for the fact that my butterfly is either N. polychloros or N. polychloros.xanthomelas-and this is already good smile.gif

03.05.2007 20:30, Vlad Proklov

I read that Autographa mandarina is listed in the Red Book of the Moscow Region (Category 3; rare species). Two habitats are protected on the territory of the Prioksko-Terrasny Nature Reserve and a natural monument (Balashikha district).
So, to us - in the Podolsky district - it flew from the Prioksko-Terasny Nature Reserve smile.gif

It didn't fly out of nowhere, it is found all over the region. In the Red Data Book, they simply wrote about already known finds, but did not search for new data.

And polychrome is definitely N. xanthomelas.

03.05.2007 21:09, okoem

I was told in the mail that the main thing in this case is the color of the legs.
And they are just not visible frown.gif
In Nymphalis polychloros, they are black, and in Nymphalis xanthomelas, they are brown.
So I'll have to settle for the fact that my butterfly is either N. polychloros or N. polychloros.xanthomelas - and this is already good smile.gif


But this is really a 100% sign. However, there is another good sign - a smooth transition of dark to reddish on from the edge to the root of the hind wings. Unfortunately, the shooting angle is not quite right for determining, but as far as I can see it is Nymphalis xanthomelas.
Background color, color and size of spots, size of teeth on the wings - according to my observations, all these signs in both species are quite variable.
Svetlana, where was the photo taken? If in the Moscow region, then as far as I know, Nymphalis xanthomelas is usually found there.

03.05.2007 21:33, Sv Kononova

03.05.2007 22:26, Zhuk

If earlier I went out into the field and could spend hours photographing more and more new insects, now I will shoot five or six species in the same two or three hours-no more frown.gif

You just began to distinguish them smile.gif
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03.05.2007 22:27, Sv Kononova

I have a few more questions smile.gif

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figure 1

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figure 3

All photos were taken in the Moscow region in 2003.

03.05.2007 22:31, Zhuk

Figure 1-Coenonympha arcania (Linnaeus, 1761) Fig.
2-Chiasmia clathrata (=Semiothisa clathrata) (Linnaeus, 1758)
Fig. 3-Nymphalis antiopa Linnaeus, 1758
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03.05.2007 22:37, Sv Kononova

And you say

04.05.2007 1:28, RippeR

Sv_Kononova:
you'll be able to distinguish them better when you go out on a photo hunt again. When they are visible in kind, it immediately becomes easier smile.gif

04.05.2007 6:22, Sv Kononova

Sv_Kononova:
you'll be able to distinguish them better when you go out on a photo hunt again. When they are visible in kind , it immediately becomes easier smile.gif


We'll see smile.gif
I hope that this year at least someone else will fly and crawl in our unfortunate Moscow weep.gifregion, where there will soon be little left but roads and cars...

04.05.2007 8:37, omar

People, look-a mourner on a flower, drinking nectar... eek.gif

04.05.2007 9:55, Guest

Something new...
Nymphalis xanthomelas is a rarity in the Moscow region!
unlike polychloros among birches.

04.05.2007 10:16, Guest

But in the photo, yes, rather xanthomel, - here the author's obvious luck is obvious.
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04.05.2007 20:00, guest: Сергей Шер

Help determine

04.05.2007 20:38, Сергей Шер

Help me determine?...

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05.05.2007 8:03, Pavel Morozov

First, all the images are A. gamma. A. mandarina has no yellow tint on the hind wings, the general background of the front wings is almost black, the spot in the form of the letter "gamma "forms an acute (clearly) angle with the upper" antennae". In gamma (as in the image), this angle approaches a straight line.
In addition, A. mandarina is much rarer.

As for N. xanthomelas in the Moscow region, it has been numerous since 2003. But N. polychloros-on the contrary, has not been seen for a long time.
So, N. xanthomelas is not uncommon in the Moscow region at the present time. You need to look more closely. umnik.gif
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05.05.2007 8:04, Sv Kononova

And where does such beauty reside?

05.05.2007 9:36, Сергей Шер

Here in Primorye! Just who are they? ...

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