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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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25.06.2007 16:44, RippeR

SERGE_D:
Alexis is exactly male, females are brown, sometimes with small blue inserts, usually at the root of the feathers or at the back edge of the hind wings..

Plebeians - 1st idas, 2nd argyrognomon. Determined as follows: I read a lot of notes about the differences between argyrognomon and idas-almost all are written differently, they say that some have triangular spots on the bottom, there are no black spots on the hind wings of argyrognomons, etc. But after reviewing a lot of material, I realized that most likely these are big mistakes, since most exs have all the signs mixed up hundreds of times, and in the end it turns out that they are all neither this nor that..
Therefore, I decided on the only feature I liked - the points at the bottom of the rear fenders. They write the following - that idas has bright blue spots on the last (or first, depending on how you look) spots, i.e. if you count from above, and argyrognomon has blue spots that rarely reach the 4th, and never the 3rd. If I remember correctly at all and didn't mess smile.gifup anything

26.06.2007 11:02, Guest

Wrong.
To Sergey, Plebeians are argyrognomons all. And so, yes, daphne + alexis.

26.06.2007 14:25, RippeR

And the arguments?

26.06.2007 15:42, Alexander Zarodov

Again, the thick head on the definition. Moscow Region, June 23.

Thymelicus lineola or T. sylvestris? I'm confused about the antennas smile.gif

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26.06.2007 16:07, Vlad Proklov

Again, the thick head on the definition. Moscow Region, June 23.

Thymelicus lineola or T. sylvestris? I'm confused about the antennas smile.gif

Antennae in the case of males generally go through the forest smile.gif
The androconial bar is thick and oblique, which means Thymelicus sylvestris.
In Th. lineola, it is thin and almost parallel to the posterior edge.
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26.06.2007 17:33, Alexander Zarodov

I wonder if it is possible to identify a pigeon only from this photo? Smaller than Icarus. Moscow Region, June 23.
Female Polyommatus semiargus?

This post was edited by Double A - 26.06.2007 17: 35

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26.06.2007 18:03, Vlad Proklov

I wonder if it is possible to identify a pigeon only from this photo? Smaller than Icarus. Moscow Region, June 23.
Female Polyommatus semiargus?

It looks like this.
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27.06.2007 15:22, Alexander Zarodov

Any questions about pestrianka? I counted 5 points, i.e. Z. lonicerae or Z. trifolii?
Moscow Region, June 23.

And another butterfly, size 1.5-2 cm

This post was edited by Double A - 27.06.2007 16: 10

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27.06.2007 16:36, Vlad Proklov

Any questions about pestrianka? I counted 5 points, i.e. Z. lonicerae or Z. trifolii?
Moscow Region, June 23.

And another butterfly, size 1.5-2 cm

Z. lonicerae. There is no Z. trifolii in the Moscow region - all indications are based on an erroneous definition, it is a Western European species.
And the second one I don't know who, I don't even have any ideas...
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27.06.2007 16:55, RippeR

"Again, the thick head on the definition. Moscow Region, June 23.

Thymelicus lineola or T. sylvestris? I'm confused about the antennas."

If the underside of the hind wings is light single-color-lineola, in this case the rear half is lighter than the front, which means tse sylvestris
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27.06.2007 19:43, Vlad Proklov

"This species has over 100 different forms "

Well, I already have a boom catching the other 99. smile.gif

Correction: This is probably not Acleris hastiana, but A. umbrana.
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29.06.2007 14:10, Alexander Zarodov

A moth of some sort? Couldn't determine...
Small size, sat in the entrance on the wall.

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29.06.2007 14:23, Vlad Proklov

A moth of some sort? Couldn't determine...
Small size, sat in the entrance on the wall.

Flour fire (Pyralis farinalis).
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29.06.2007 14:36, Zhuk

I was sitting on the wall in the entrance hall.

I have the same lessa sitting in the entrance smile.gif

29.06.2007 14:39, Vlad Proklov

I have the same scha in the entrance sitting smile.gif

Even in the Moscow region there is a similar Pyralis regalis, so you need to look smile.gifproperly

29.06.2007 14:39, Alexander Zarodov

Flour fire (Pyralis farinalis).


Ognevka!? Who will sort them out?.. teapot.gif smile.gif

29.06.2007 14:55, Bad Den

A moth of some sort? Couldn't determine...
Small size, sat in the entrance on the wall.

Pyralis farinalis (Linnaeus, 1758)

29.06.2007 15:32, nimu

Help plz determine.
26-28.06.07 Moscow region Domodedovo district
4-Idea bisellata ?
5 - Scopula immutata ?

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29.06.2007 15:34, nimu

4,5

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29.06.2007 15:46, Vlad Proklov

Help plz determine.
26-28.06.07 Moscow region Domodedovo district
4-Idea bisellata ?
5 - Scopula immutata ?

1-The most interesting part! This is the calico scoop (Macrochilo cribrumalis, Erebidae) - a species known from the Moscow region from an old find near the Saltykovskaya platform - and listed in the new list regional Red List, as "probably extinct". This find should definitely be registered with Andrey Valentinovich Sviridov at the Moscow State University Zoo Museum!
2 - Catarhoe cuculata
3 - Rheumaptera undulata
4 - Idaea dimidiata
5 - Scopula immutata

29.06.2007 20:10, Zhuk

Lucky you! I never found such a thing! Cool thing.

29.06.2007 20:20, nimu

1-The most interesting part! This find should definitely be registered with Andrey Valentinovich Sviridov at the Moscow State University Zoo Museum!


And how to register it confused.gif? I've never done anything like this , and as a native Muscovite, I don't know much about Moscow, because I don't even know where the Zoo Museum is located shuffle.gif.
P. S. Someone's link doesn't open.

29.06.2007 21:07, Vlad Proklov

And how to register it confused.gif? I've never done anything like this , and as a native Muscovite, I don't know much about Moscow, because I don't even know where the Zoo Museum is located shuffle.gif.
P. S. Someone's link doesn't open.

Yes call the Pet Museum (On B. Nikitskaya is located, metro station "Library named after Lenin"), agree with him and come, show him. He's a good guy smile.gif

You also seem to have Nycteola ?revayana interesting, I would also take her to show.

And the link, when I wrote, opened - maybe the server is lying...

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 06/29/2007 21: 08
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29.06.2007 21:14, Zhuk

His phone number is 2032667. It is better to collect all undefined shovels at once and take them to itsmile.gif.
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29.06.2007 21:34, nimu

Yes call the Pet Museum (On B. Nikitskaya is located, metro station "Library named after Lenin"), agree with him and come, show him. He's a good guy smile.gif


OK! I'll try again at the end of next week.

29.06.2007 22:27, nimu

Help plz determine.
26-28.06.07 Moscow region Domodedovo district
4-Apamea sordens?
8-Tholera decimalis male?

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29.06.2007 23:08, Vlad Proklov

Help plz determine.
26-28.06.07 Moscow region Domodedovo district
4-Apamea sordens?
8-Tholera decimalis male?

1 - Thyatira batis (Drepanidae: Thyatirinae)
2 - Phymatopus hecta (Hepialidae)
3 - ?Korscheltellus lupulinus, or maybe a female Ph. hecta like this (Hepialidae)
4-I don't know
5-Leucania comma (Noctuidae)
6 - Cosmia affinis (Noctuidae)
7 - Apamea (Leucapamea) ophiogramma (Noctuidae)
8 - Tholera decimalis (Noctuidae)
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29.06.2007 23:17, Zhuk

4-Apamea sordens, exactly
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29.06.2007 23:47, Vlad Proklov

Although no, Zhuk was right -- the last Sideridis (Heliophobus) reticulata.
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30.06.2007 2:44, nimu

Although no, Zhuk was right-the latter is Sideridis (Heliophobus) reticulata.


Is it Tholera decimalis or Sideridis (Heliophobus) reticulata ? And how to distinguish them? Just because Tholera decimalis is noticeably lighter?

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30.06.2007 3:03, Vlad Proklov

Is it Tholera decimalis or Sideridis (Heliophobus) reticulata ? And how to distinguish them? Just because Tholera decimalis is noticeably lighter?

And this is Th. decimalis. The drawing is different if you look closely smile.gif
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01.07.2007 18:02, Ilia Ustiantcev

Help plz determine the scoop.
1.picture: ______2.jpg
2.picture: ______3.jpgPlusia sp.
3.picture: ______4.jpgXestia triangulum?
4.picture: ______5.jpgAbrostola sp.
5.picture: ______6.jpgPyrrhia umbra?
6.picture: ______7.jpg
7.picture: ______8.jpg

01.07.2007 18:07, Ilia Ustiantcev

8.picture: ______9.jpgPlusia sp.
9.picture: ______10.jpgToxocampa sp.
10.picture: ______11.jpgAutographa gamma
11.picture: ______12.jpg
picture: ______13.jpgPlusia sp.
12.picture: ______14.jpgMamestra nebulosa
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01.07.2007 18:08, Guest

help me identifyuser posted image

01.07.2007 18:13, Ilia Ustiantcev

14.picture: ______16.jpgCymatophora octogesima (Tetheidae)
15.picture: ______17.jpg
16.picture: ______18.jpg
17.picture: ______19.jpgCucullia sp.
18.picture: ______20.jpgXantia sp.?
1-5, 14, 18 - Moscow, the rest-MO.
7 and 15, probably very frequent and easily defined types? Something familiar...
And a pair of Pyralidae. MO.
1.picture: ________4.jpg
2.picture: ________5.jpg

This post was edited by Ilya U-01.07.2007 18: 16

01.07.2007 18:36, Zhuk

help me determineuser posted image


Melitaea cinxia

01.07.2007 18:47, Vlad Proklov

Melitaea cinxia

But I don't think Didyma is?

01.07.2007 18:53, Zhuk

But I don't think Didyma is?

Her. This is exactly cinqia.

01.07.2007 19:01, Vlad Proklov

Help plz determine the scoop.
1-5, 14, 18 - Moscow, the rest-Moscow region.

1 - ?Hoplodrina sp. (Noctuidae)
2 - Diachrysia chrysitis (Noctuidae)
3 - Xestia ditrapezium (Noctuidae)
4 - Abrostola ?tripartita (Noctuidae)
5 - Pyrrhia umbra (Noctuidae)
6-Dypterygia scabriuscula (Noctuidae)
7-pas
8-Diachrysia ?stenochrysis (Noctuidae)
9 - Lygephila pastinum (Erebidae)
10 - Autographa gamma (Noctuidae)
11 - Autographa bractea (Noctuidae)
12 - Polia nebulosa (Noctuidae)
13 - Mythimna impura (Noctuidae)
14 - Tethea ocularis (Drepanidae: Thyatirinae)
15 - Mamestra brassicae (Noctuidae)
16 - Caradrina (Caradrina) morpheus (Noctuidae)
17 - Cucullia ?umbratica (Noctuidae) It is necessary to cook.
18 - Lacanobia oleracea (Noctuidae)


And a pair of Pyralidae. mo.

1 - Aglossa pinguinalis (Pyralidae)
2 - Idaea muricata (Geometridae)
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01.07.2007 19:09, Guest

Zhuk, kotbegemot, thank you for Melitaea!
and yet, Cinxia or Didyma?

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