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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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09.08.2007 0:22, Vlad Proklov

Just into the light. What kind of comrades?

1 - Macdunnoughia confusa
2 - Eupithecia sp.
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09.08.2007 13:49, PG18

Comrades! Help identify several heterocerae.
All but one (0401-from the very south of the Urals), from the Middle Urals. July and early August. Hints in the names. Thank you in advance.

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09.08.2007 15:17, svm2

Sp. 508 Eilema complana-it doesn't look like there are any similar ones, if you believe it
http://szmn.sbras.ru/vvdubat_art/lithosiinae.htm
0244-Pelosia muscerda-the same,but it would be nice to have a top view-this is what concerns Arctiidae
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09.08.2007 17:39, Zhuk

Comrades! Help identify several heterocerae.
All but one (0401-from the very south of the Urals), from the Middle Urals. July and early August. Hints in the names. Thank you in advance.

The couple are all lazysmile.gif
1-yes
2-A. fucosa
3-A. ?fucosa
4-may pyramidea, and may and berbera
5-Eurois occulta
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09.08.2007 18:04, Pavel Morozov

Alcis maculata
both A. fucosa,
A. pyramidea,
Eurois occulta (already identified)
a couple of Diarsia dahli
Discestra trifolii
Brachilomia viminalis
Nycteola siculana (in my opinion)
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09.08.2007 18:51, Dr. Niko

And in this perspective, my Eupithecia sp. does it look like E. trisignaria?

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09.08.2007 19:02, Vlad Proklov

And in this perspective, my Eupithecia sp. does it look like E. trisignaria?

Let's just say, not really smile.gif

This is a grated copy, here you need to be V. G. Mironov to say for sure...

09.08.2007 19:06, Ilia Ustiantcev

Does he identify a grated copy? by eye color? smile.gif

This post was edited by Ilya U-09.08.2007 19: 06

09.08.2007 19:07, Dr. Niko

I hesitate to ask, but who is V. G. Mironov, if this is not a state secret? confused.gif

This post was edited by Dr. Niko - 09.08.2007 19: 08

09.08.2007 19:11, Vlad Proklov

I hesitate to ask, but who is V. G. Mironov, if this is not a state secret? confused.gif

Chief specialist on flower moths, in particular, the author of the corresponding volume in "Geometrid Moths of Europe". But he's in St. Petersburg, in Zina. And on the site there there is no detailed information on how to contact him.

He is already so busy with them that, perhaps, by the expression of his eyes, he will be able to determine smile.gif
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09.08.2007 19:19, Dr. Niko

And here is such a stupid question: if there are such babachki in the Russian Federation, which, if I say correctly, develop in the 2nd generation and adults come out closer to autumn or autumn. Or in the fall there is no point in collecting at all - everything is grated.

09.08.2007 19:38, Ilia Ustiantcev

Nachet of the second generation I do not know, but there are a lot of moths. In my opinion, somewhere in the south there are IX-X (meaning, September-October) generations, and in Wed. Europe, if you believe some Polish book, there is a 3rd generation of mottledwings.

This post was edited by Ilya U-09.08.2007 21: 34
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09.08.2007 20:08, Pavel Morozov

I want to buy all the Mironov-Hausmann determinants.

And I saw the mottled moth Araschnia levana in the third generation in Odintsovo district of M. O. in mid-September near the platform Perkhushkovo. Brown-red some.

09.08.2007 20:09, Pavel Morozov

And in this perspective, my Eupithecia sp. does it look like E. trisignaria?

There is only the" tip " to cook.

09.08.2007 21:33, Ilia Ustiantcev

If you see it this fall, take a picture. I would like to see it in nature.

09.08.2007 21:50, lepidopterolog

 

And I saw the mottled moth Araschnia levana in the third generation in Odintsovo district of M. O. in mid-September near the platform Perkhushkovo. Brown-red hair of some sort.
I was born in 2005 in suburban areas in the district of art. Donino (Ramenskiy district) caught the same one. The butterfly had slightly underdeveloped wings.

09.08.2007 22:20, Ilia Ustiantcev

Here is a drawing of the autumn shape: http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/...page_00012.html

09.08.2007 22:28, lepidopterolog

Here is a drawing of the autumn shape: http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/...page_00012.html

It is similar, but the orange elements of the drawing are more developed. In fact, A. levana f. porima is a rare find in our area; even in the south, the species gives an irregular third generation. By the way, I caught the mentioned copy in early August.

09.08.2007 23:05, Ilia Ustiantcev

What a nightmare! I hope all is not lost yet...
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Something like Larentia tristata just came to me. Keeps the wings folded all the time. How do I force you to reveal it without killing you?

This post was edited by Ilya U-09.08.2007 23: 12

10.08.2007 0:53, okoem

Keeps the wings folded all the time. How do I force you to reveal it without killing you?

In the jar - and in the refrigerator until morning. And in the morning it will warm up, fly, calm down - sit down, sit down and then most likely open it. I don't know exactly how this view works, but others do. But this is a separate topic...
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10.08.2007 0:59, Ilia Ustiantcev

I'll post it on Facebook on Sunday, but most likely it's still not tristata.

10.08.2007 8:41, Pavel Morozov

that's right, Epirrhoe tristata
may not be tristata. Xanthorhoe ferrugata like to land with folded wings

This post was edited by Morozzz - 08/10/2007 08: 41

10.08.2007 8:54, svm2

Nycteola siculana (in my opinion)

Maybe dark asiatica, like siculana more western

To Ilya U-look here and try to determine for yourself
http://www.dlc.fi/~peterpa/lepi/epirrhoe/epirrhoe.htm
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10.08.2007 9:10, Ilia Ustiantcev

More like an alternate. Come on, it'll be decided on Sunday anyway!

11.08.2007 9:47, Dr. Niko

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11.08.2007 16:46, Vlad Proklov

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Probably Pandemis heparana (Tortricidae).
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11.08.2007 16:53, Dr. Niko

Well, at least definitely Tortricidae, right?

11.08.2007 17:03, Vlad Proklov

Well, at least definitely Tortricidae, right?

Don't -- that's a big deal! And subfamily -- Tortricinae smile.gif
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12.08.2007 19:15, Ilia Ustiantcev

Help plz identify the butterflies. Diaries, caterpillar, last scoop and pyadenitsa-Moscow region, the rest are Moscow. By the way, riders hatched from the pupa. weep.gif I fried them for it and scattered the ashes to the wind! smile.gif mad.gif
Pyadenitsy
1.picture: _________3.jpgEveryone's favorite eupitetia
2.picture: _________4.jpgXantorhoe sp?
3.picture: _________5.jpg
picture: _________6.jpgEpirrhoe alternata?
4.picture: _________8.jpgWell, another eupithecia. I hope it's easier.
Scoops
1.2.
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12.08.2007 19:21, Ilia Ustiantcev

3.4.5.6picture: ______7.jpg
picture: ______8.jpg
picture: ______9.jpg
.picture: ______10.jpg<dead>Cymatophora duplaris???
Yolks. The first two are from the wink.gifmyrmidon nursery, but what if edusa accidentally got knocked up?
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2.picture: _________2.jpg
3.picture: _________3.jpg

This post was edited by Ilya U-12.08.2007 19: 21

12.08.2007 19:26, Ilia Ustiantcev

Mother-of-pearl, most likely niobe.
picture: ____________.jpg
Volnyanka caterpillar. What to feed and where to look for a lumpy plant in Moscow. He and the raspberry cocoonworm won't eat each other?
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Moth
picture: _____2.jpgYponomeuta sp.

12.08.2007 20:21, Vlad Proklov

Help plz identify the butterflies. Diaries, caterpillar, last scoop and pyadenitsa-Moscow region, the rest are Moscow.
Moths

1 - Eupithecia sp. I don't know any further.
2 - Xanthorhoe designata
3 - Epirrhoe alternata
4 - Eupithecia icterata f. subfulvata


Scoops

1 - Hydraecia sp.
2 - ?Cosmia trapezina killed? I'm not sure.
5 - Caradrina ?clavipalpis
I don't recognize the others at all...

Yolks - yes myrmidons there, saffron flies into the MO (and comes across pickerssmile.gif) very rarely. I have, by the way, from this nursery there is a male with yellow veins at the apex - but the background, in turn, strongly gives off pink. However, I have not heard anything about C. myrmidonexcrocea hybrids.

Mother-of-pearl, most likely niobe...

Niobe is.
The caterpillar is a redtail (Calliteara pudibunda). Feed the leaves of various broad-leaved trees. I haven't heard about cannibalism, but it's better to keep the caterpillars separately: what if some infection strikes one?
Ermine moth -- probably Yponomeuta malinellus.
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12.08.2007 21:17, PG18

Jaundice number three is clearly from the hyale group - C. hyale or C. alfacariensis; rather, it is the former.
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12.08.2007 22:19, Ilia Ustiantcev

Of course lugovaya, what to do south in MO?! But the size let me down: the size of myrmidon, and lugovaya is small.
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Broad-leaved trees in Moscow - linden and oak?

12.08.2007 23:52, okoem

13.08.2007 0:06, Ilia Ustiantcev

I know what the sickle-wings are... The length is about the size of a small scoop or grayish lichen. By the way, that grated trapezine is most likely also a fire pit...

13.08.2007 0:16, Vlad Proklov


Broad-leaved trees in Moscow-linden and oak?

Yes, what can I give her, there is room for experiments smile.gif

13.08.2007 0:55, mikee

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13.08.2007 1:06, Vlad Proklov

Below are two photos. Both butterflies were caught on the same day (July 2000) in the same place (Pavlovsky Posad district, Moscow region). The first I identified as C. myrmidone, the second as C. crocea [...]

I would also define the second one as saffron.
Perhaps there are many fields of legumes in those places, and rare migrants (arriving from the south every spring) produce a local generation in those places. But more or less successfully wintering, even in England, it began only about 1995, that is, when the climate warming became noticeable. Wintering in central Russia, in my opinion, is out of the question.

13.08.2007 10:54, okoem

I'm also for saffron. They are exactly the same in Crimea.

"scoop nom.6" - if it is a scoop, it is similar to Aegle kaekeritziana, but it is unlikely that this species exists in the Moscow region. In my opinion, this is more of a fire fight. The angle of shooting is unsuccessful, it would be necessary to shoot perpendicular to the plane of the wing, so that there would be no geometric distortions. And it would also be nice to put butterflies on graph paper when photographing, then there would be no questions about the size. And I'd like to straighten it out again - how's it doing with the rear fenders?..

"Cosmia trapezina" - in my opinion, it is.

This post was edited by okoem - 08/13/2007 10: 58
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