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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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31.07.2007 19:09, Vlad Proklov

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8-Selenia sp.
9 - Camptogramma bilineata
10 - Idaea laevigata
11 - ?Idaea pallidata

And volnyanki are unpaired, yes. Achtung, that's right...
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31.07.2007 19:10, Vlad Proklov

Everything! photos from the Crimea are finished! But there are still 3 photos from Moscow (volnyanka and last year's katokaly - I doubted it).
These are both fucking noobs-are you or aren't you?

Like, a non-partner and two nupts...
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31.07.2007 19:24, Ilia Ustiantcev

Hurray! Many thanks to kotbegemot and PG18!!! Could that firefly have been a new species? (he licks his lips.)

This post was edited by Ilya U - 31.07.2007 19: 25

31.07.2007 19:33, Zhernov

Samara butterflies help to identify confused.gif2 already seem to have been identified as Zygaena loti, but 4 can be a different species, or all the same.

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31.07.2007 19:37, Ilia Ustiantcev

1 - pontia chloridice.
5-iperant
6 and 7 (at random) - cinxia
3-chernushka, more like a jellyfish, but maybe ligea.

31.07.2007 19:40, Vlad Proklov

Samara butterflies help to identify confused.gif2 already seem to have been identified as Zygaena loti, but 4 can be a different species, or all the same.

1 - Pontia edusa
3 - Erebia ?ligea Is not very visible, which hind wings from the underside... Ligeia is actually a northern view.
5 - Aphantopus hyperanthus
6 - Melitaea didyma
7 - Melitaea trivia
8 - Plebejus (Plebejus) ?idas

C motley birds pass.

31.07.2007 19:43, Zhernov

31.07.2007 19:49, Vlad Proklov

Thank you so much for helping! jump.gif

Here, by the way, it is easier to say thank you by clicking on the flower smile.gif
And chernushka is more likely really a jellyfish, Ilya is right.
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31.07.2007 19:56, Zhernov

I've seen these flowers, but how do I create them??? not in course

31.07.2007 19:57, Zhernov

found

31.07.2007 20:09, Vlad Proklov

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31.07.2007 23:23, okoem

  
Are Semele and pellucida the same thing? If not, how do they differ?


Golubyanki
4 - Why is it necessarily Icarus? It may well be thersites. Both species are quite variable and differ only in the spot in the basal area of the forewing, which is not visible in the photo. Of course, Icarus is generally a more widespread species, but not everywhere. In the area of Feodosia, for example, thersite sometimes flies in the mass, and icarus is rare.


Judging by the Atlas of the Mace-Moustaches of Eastern Europe, Semele and pellucida have slight external differences.

Scoops
5. Cryphia rectilinea (Warren, 1909)
6. Cryphia algae (Fabricius, 1775)
9. Or maybe it's Catocala sponsa (Linnaeus, 1767)?
14. Cryphia algae (Fabricius, 1775)

Moth
3,4-I agree that Scopula marginepunctata (Goeze, 1781)
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31.07.2007 23:28, okoem

2 already seems to have been defined as Zygaena loti, but 4 may look different, or all the same.

If it were Crimean, then definitely Zygaena loti in both photos. But what are there in Samara meet...

31.07.2007 23:41, mikee

Like, a non-partner and two nupts...

kotbegemot, you are so quick to determine! Do you remember everyone as a keepsake or, still, from reference books? smile.gif Here's more for a warm-up session:

01.08.2007 0:01, Vlad Proklov

kotbegemot, you are so quick to determine! Do you remember everyone as a keepsake or, still, from reference books? smile.gif Here's more for a warm-up session:

What I can do is from memory, sometimes I look at books to make sure smile.gif

1 - ?Apamea monoglypha
2 - Malacosoma castrense
3 - Euthrix potatoria
4 - Dendrolimus pini
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01.08.2007 0:42, mikee

What I can do is from memory, sometimes I look at books to make sure smile.gif

1 - ?Apamea monoglypha
2 - Malacosoma castrense
3 - Euthrix potatoria
4 - Dendrolimus pini

Thanks! Cocoonworms-silkworms I checked myself, but I didn't know sovku at all.

01.08.2007 8:16, Guest

Samara butterflies help to identify confused.gif2 already seem to have been identified as Zygaena loti, but 4 can be a different species, or all the same.


1 - Pontia edusa.
3-Erebia aethiops male. In E. medusa, the eyes on the forewing are on separate reddish spots that are not fused into a ligature. In E. ligea, the ligature on the underside of the forewing is different - wider, quite characteristic of this species. Here, the bottom of the front wing actually repeats the top pattern. And the underside of the hindwing is unicolored brown; in E. aethiops, there are just three white dots (possibly partially reduced), and they are probably not visible. And medusa has eyes, ligea has a white sash...
6-Melitaea didyma female
8-More similar to Plebejus idas, but would not exclude P. argus and P. argyrognomon - after all, they have quite a large variability. There would still be a photo of the top, it would be possible to say with a higher probability smile.gif
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01.08.2007 8:21, Ilia Ustiantcev

She's got a pretty bad sling for an Ethiopian.".. In general, it also looks like euryale...

This post was edited by Ilya U-01.08.2007 08: 25

01.08.2007 8:38, Andylog

Guest - it was mesmile.gif. Well, what do you mean, "shitty"?
Here, I unearthed my photo of an Ethiopian woman. Also a male. As the saying goes, find the difference...
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But in my opinion, it doesn't look like Euryale. Euryale's eyes are quite reduced, and, in general, it is a completely northern view.

01.08.2007 8:57, Andylog

By the way. I didn't pay attention to the androconial field. My male has it, but the one that is not visible... Perhaps indeed medusa. But not because of the size of the sling - it is changeable for aethiops.

01.08.2007 9:00, Ilia Ustiantcev

http://www.leps.it/SpeciesPages/ErebEurya.htm#40
Her eyes are not reduced, at least not here!
And I probably have an ashipka about the area in my book:"...north and central Russia..."

01.08.2007 9:25, Andylog

Euryale, according to my information, occupies the taiga part and the mountains-the Urals, In Europe - the Carpathians, Alps, etc.

And by the way. I don't know if you are familiar with the publication Taxonomic review of the mace-whiskered lepidopteran assemblages Erebia euryale and Erebia adyte

According to it, E. euryale corresponds to Erebia ilmena = Erebia euryale iremelica and several selected subspecies of Erebia euryaloides. There, by the way, there are also photos of imago. All Ural subspecies are characterized by a reduction in the eyes on the sling.

In general, the variability within these species is very high. European subspecies are quite different.

This post was edited by Andylog - 01.08.2007 09: 40
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01.08.2007 14:07, PG18

3 - Erebia ?ligea Is not very visible, which hind wings from the underside... Ligeia is actually a northern view.
Definitely: Erebia aethiops

01.08.2007 14:20, PG18

The Ethiopian is most easily distinguished by a single-colored fringe (without dark inserts at the veins, as in Ligea and euryale). Medusa is generally from a different opera (it flies early, the pattern at the top and bottom is almost the same).

01.08.2007 14:29, PG18

  http://www.leps.it/SpeciesPages/ErebEurya.htm#40
Her eyes are not reduced, at least not here!
And I probably have an ashipka about the area in my book:"...north and central Russia..."


Ilya! The illustrations show western butterflies! In our E. euryale euryaloides (other species and subspecies of the euryale group we have - from onion), the eyes are really reduced, without white nucleoli. In Heb. In Russia, it is found in Karelia, Komi, and Arch. reg. and all over the taiga Urals.
Хотите книгу P.Gorbunov The butterflies of Russia: classification, genitalia, keys for identification (2001)? There are distribution maps and drawings of genitalia for all species...
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01.08.2007 15:06, Ilia Ustiantcev

Cool book probably. Is it online? Are they all butterflies, just macro images, or just diaries?

01.08.2007 15:27, PG18

Book...at my place (it doesn't hang in the network). A4 format, 320 s, 41 tables. with drawings of genitals and 13 more with color photos of butterflies... It costs 450 rubles. + shipment (in Russia 100 rubles) Only daily.

01.08.2007 16:26, Guest

Pavel, I also want your book smile.gifSomehow, I think I tried to order it by email, and failed...

01.08.2007 16:35, Andylog

But it was me smile.gif
Pavel, I wrote to you in PM.

01.08.2007 18:54, Dr. Niko

I don't really hope for the identification of 1_1 (and 1_2 respectively) , but you can try. What are the views?

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01.08.2007 19:51, Dr. Niko

And more. I've already published it. http://molbiol.ru/forums/uploads/post-20409-1182268387.jpg
Is it Catocala promissa or C. sponsa? Maybe something else? I'm cataloging everything."
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01.08.2007 20:00, Ilia Ustiantcev

The devil himself can't tell them apart... wall.gif wall.gif wall.gif Sponsor's scientific poke Methododom! tongue.gif
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okoem, check your mailbox (not on the forum). (the personal account either does not work, or works through a stump deckwall.gif)
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More about katokal: in the last three photos there were two ribbon boxes - the second one is definitely not elokata?

This post was edited by Ilya U-01.08.2007 20: 04

01.08.2007 21:57, Dr. Niko

The devil himself can't tell them apart... wall.gif  wall.gif  wall.gif Sponsor's scientific poke Methododom! tongue.gif
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okoem, check your mailbox (not on the forum). (the personal account either does not work, or works through a stump deckwall.gif)
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More about katokal: in the last three photos there were two ribbon boxes - the second one is definitely not elokata?

What kind of photos are you talking about?

01.08.2007 22:01, guest: Sweta

Photos from the Butterfly Museum in Italy. Maybe someone knows the names?


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01.08.2007 22:06, Ilia Ustiantcev

1-Morpho peleida
2-???Hamadryad
4-Partenos silvia
5-papilio ?polimnestor

01.08.2007 22:09, Ilia Ustiantcev

About the last message with photos on the previous page.

01.08.2007 23:01, Zhuk

1-the couple is not
Googled 2-Hamadryas feronia
3-Heliconida kakya-that
5-it is another
6-Losaria sp.

This post was edited by Zhuk-02.08.2007 11: 23

01.08.2007 23:45, okoem

I'll start with pigeons.
.....
Ognevki


The second firefly, as far as I can tell, is Loxostege sticticalis (Linnaeus, 1761)

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in the last three photos, there were two ribbon girls - the second one is definitely not elokata?


In my opinion, both are Nupts.
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02.08.2007 0:22, Vlad Proklov

I don't really hope for the identification of 1_1 (and 1_2 respectively) , but you can try. What are the views?

The first one I don't know, probably Phyllonorycter sp. -- and the second one is similar to Anacampsis blattariella from Gelechiidae.
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02.08.2007 2:25, PG18

There are several orphan (undecided) microlepidopters from a June trip to the south of the Urals. I will be very grateful for your help.

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