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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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13.07.2007 18:01, Ilia Ustiantcev

And help identify the caterpillar of the marigold. Please! Still a favorite family!
kotbegemot
WITH DR! Cool butterflies to add to your collection! smile.gif

13.07.2007 18:10, Vlad Proklov

And help identify the caterpillar of the marigold. Please! Still a favorite family!
kotbegemot
WITH DR! Cool butterflies to add to your collection! smile.gif

Thanks!
And the caterpillar - I think it's Pamphylus. But I don't know much about them-I think it looks more like this drawing in a book...
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13.07.2007 18:37, Zhuk

Amphipyra berbera has only recently been found in the Moscow region (Sviridov A.V. et al., 2006)

Speaking of berber. Sviridov told me how he found it. Some Kazakh came to him and brought a dustpan for identification. Then it turned out that this guy works in Moscow on some construction site, finally has nothing to do with entomology and collects the current scoop smile.gif. So he picked up a dustpan from the window frames at Xia's office and brought it to him. That's how a new species appeared smile.gif. But how he found out about Sviridov, we did not understand.

Cat, with DR!!! smile.gif
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16.07.2007 7:47, Сергей-Д

kotbegemot, are you strong in agonopteryx?
1. Agonopterix arenella?
picture: Agonopterix_arenella_1_____.jpg
picture: Agonopterix_arenella_2_____.jpg
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2. Agonopterix ciliella or generally Depressaria sp.?
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3. Agonopterix scopariella?
picture: Agonopterix_scopariella.jpg
4. Agonopterix I don't know which one
picture: Agonopterix_sp._1_2.jpg
5. Agonopterix also no assumptions
image: Agonopterix_sp._3.jpg

16.07.2007 8:04, Сергей-Д

A few leafmakers, maybe you'll recognize someone
картинка: Epinotia_demarniana___Epiblema_scutulana.jpg
picture: Pandemis_sp._16.05.2007___.jpg
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And sorry for the off-topic question - how many butterflies (scoops, moths) should spread out on a flat surface at least? And then rovenyalki are busy, the party is on the way, I don't want to postpone until the fresh ones are spread out.

This post was edited by Sergey_D-07/16/2007 09: 51

16.07.2007 11:39, Vlad Proklov

kotbegemot, are you strong in agonopteryx?

Not strong, but you can try smile.gif
1-A. arenella, yes .
2-exactly what Depressaria sp.
3 - A. ?ciliella
4 and 5 - A. ?heracliana
I'll take a look at the flyers later -- I'm running smile.gifaway now

17.07.2007 15:11, Alexander Zarodov

A pair of butterflies from MO from July 2:

1. Idaea biselata?

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2. ?

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This post was edited by Double A-17.07.2007 15: 13

17.07.2007 15:33, Vlad Proklov

A pair of butterflies from MO from July 2:

1-grated Idaea serpentata.
2 - Rivula sericealis (Erebidae).
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17.07.2007 15:45, Vlad Proklov

A few leafmakers, maybe you recognize someone
And sorry for the off-topic question - how many butterflies (scoops, moths) should spread out at least on the roving floor? And then rovenyalki are busy, the party is on the way, I don't want to postpone until the fresh ones are spread out.

1 - ?Epinotia thapsiana
3 - ?Archips sp.
6 - Celypha ?flavipalpana
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17.07.2007 16:35, Alexander Zarodov

17.07.2007 16:39, Vlad Proklov

Why Erebidae? It seems to be Noctuidae Rivulinae  confused.gif

Because the scoop was finally divided: barbels, tapeworms and this little thing is now in the family Erebidae.
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17.07.2007 16:40, Zhuk

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17.07.2007 16:44, Zhuk

Because the scoop was finally divided: barbels, tapeworms and this little thing is now in the family Erebidae.

I'll never get used to this division. Finally tin.

17.07.2007 17:34, omar

Sorry for the stupid question of a bug lover - who are barbels?

17.07.2007 17:39, Zhuk

Sorry for the stupid question of a bug lover - who are barbels?

The Herminiinae subfamily. Here are our: http://sungaya.narod.ru/hete/noc/noc10.htm
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17.07.2007 18:22, Alexander Zarodov

Because the scoop was finally divided: barbels, tapeworms and this little thing is now in the family Erebidae.


I'll put it down to scoops in the old-fashioned way, otherwise all these new trends... smile.gif

17.07.2007 18:28, Vlad Proklov

The Herminiinae subfamily. Here are our: http://sungaya.narod.ru/hete/noc/noc10.htm

Herminiinae are moth scoops. Barbels are Hypeninae.
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17.07.2007 18:32, Zhuk

Damn, I always thought it was the other way aroundsmile.gif

17.07.2007 19:18, Vlad Proklov

I'll put it down to scoops in the old-fashioned way, otherwise all these new trends... smile.gif

You can't call this a" trend": the new system has gone well and is already widely used, including in domestic faunal reports (starting in 2005), and in V. S. Kononenko's project "Noctuidae Sibiricae".
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17.07.2007 19:57, Zhuk

In short, scoops are not khukhry-mukhry umnik.gif smile.gif

17.07.2007 20:03, Alexander Zarodov

and in the project of V. S. Kononenko "Noctuidae Sibiricae".


Is it available on the internet?
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17.07.2007 20:23, Vlad Proklov

Is it available on the internet?

This is a multi-volume book (four volumes, it seems, are planned), so far released first volume -- annotated list of species.

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 17.07.2007 20: 27
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17.07.2007 20:24, Zhuk

Is it available on the internet?

Damn, here is khochesh protsytirovat, and popadaesh on the flower.
I've searched the entire Internet less often, but I didn't find any ads for books in stores. It looks like she's nowhere frown.gifto be found . That sucks...

18.07.2007 7:27, Сергей-Д

This is a multi-volume book (four volumes, it seems, are planned), so far released first volume -- annotated list of species.

So many books! But prices bite. It would be in the Internet so otskanenoe...

18.07.2007 12:09, Alexander Zarodov

But this hayloft Coenonympha glycerion or C. arcania?

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18.07.2007 12:47, Zhuk

But this hayloft Coenonympha glycerion or C. arcania?


glycerion
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18.07.2007 12:47, nimu

Help plz determine.
Vladimir region, Buzha River 11.07.07.

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18.07.2007 12:54, Zhuk

Help plz determine.
Vladimir region, Buzha River 11.07.07.

1 - Idaea emarginata
2 - Idaea serpentata (=Idaea similata)
3,4 - Thymelicus ?sylvestris
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18.07.2007 13:56, RippeR

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18.07.2007 14:54, Alexander Zarodov

A few more butterflies from the west of MO.

1. Crambus lathoniellus?

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2. ?

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3. ?

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This post was edited by Double A-07/18/2007 15: 42

18.07.2007 17:32, Vlad Proklov

A few more butterflies from the west of MO.

1 - Crambus lathoniellus (Crambidae).
2 - Celypha striana (Tortricidae).
3 - Sitochroa verticalis (Crambidae).
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18.07.2007 20:56, Alexander Zarodov

18.07.2007 21:02, Vlad Proklov

Exactly Crambidae, not Pyraustidae?

In Russian studies, the firefly is indeed divided into many families, while in Europe, until recently, they were grouped into one-Pyralidae.
Recently, the European mainstream began to divide them into two families-Pyralidae and Crambidae, according to the structure of the hearing aid.
According to this new European system, Sitochroa verticalis belongs to the subfamily Pyraustinae of the Crambidae family.
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18.07.2007 21:07, Alexander Zarodov

Is Udea lutealis also Crambidae?

18.07.2007 21:20, Vlad Proklov

Is Udea lutealis also Crambidae?

Yes, according to this system, Scopariinae, Acentropinae, Odontiinae, Glaphyriinae, Evergestinae, Pyraustinae and Crambinae proper belong to Crambidae.
Pyralidae still includes Pyralinae, Phycitinae, and Galleriinae.
The list is incomplete, I wrote who I remembered smile.gif
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19.07.2007 7:36, Сергей-Д

Help these butterflies identify! Everything except pestryanka - July 7-8, 2007.1
. Aletia straminea?
picture: Aletia_straminea______7_8.07.2007.jpg
2. Eupithecia sp. before the view, as I understand it, you can not determine by photo?
picture: Eupithecia_sp.______7_8.07.2007.jpg
3.
picture: Euxoa_sp.______7_8.07.2007.jpg
4. Paradrina-Hoplodrina which ones? Are these two different things?
picture: Hoplodrina_sp.______7_8.07.2007.jpg
5. Mamestra persicariae?
picture: Mamestra_persicariae______7_8.07.2007.jpg
6.
picture: Parectropis_similaria______7_8.07.2007.jpg
7. Zygaena sp., that's what it is... On the abdomen-a ring, unsuccessfully straightened, lowered the belly.Removed from the track.
picture: Zygaena_sp._ex_larva.jpg
8,9. Are there any fires? The photo is unsuccessful, but there are no others, maybe you can consider it?
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10. I don't know, maybe Parastichtis suspecta?
picture: ___________7_8.07.2007.jpg

This post was edited by Sergey_D-07/19/2007 07: 37

19.07.2007 10:09, Zhuk

1-yes
3-Agrotis sp. in my
opinion 4-Caradrina sp.
5-yes, but on brassicae also strongly smacks
7-Zygaena ephialtes like. And the caterpillar from MO?
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19.07.2007 10:58, svm2

5-persicariae
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19.07.2007 11:28, Pavel Morozov

3 - maybe Euxoa nigricans
4-both Caradrina morpheus
10-exactly P. suspecta
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19.07.2007 11:29, svm2

zygaena is more likely cynarae or centaureae if with a green sheen

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