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20.04.2020 15:57, Alexandr Zhakov

Who knows? We need to study the material.

So there was a species from the Caucasus, in the determinant of the EC of the USSR is given, then reduced to synonyms. Find an article where synonymy was shown, if unconvincingly, to do barcoding. Really, well, very different butterflies.
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20.04.2020 18:27, Vlad Proklov

So there was a species from the Caucasus, in the determinant of the EC of the USSR is given, then reduced to synonyms. Find an article where synonymy was shown, if unconvincingly, to do barcoding. Really, well, very different butterflies.

I looked - there are THREE species listed for the Caucasus, including ophisus!

20.04.2020 18:48, Alexandr Zhakov

I looked - there are THREE species listed for the Caucasus, including ophisus!

But right now, we're choosing between the TWO.
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20.04.2020 19:20, Vlad Proklov

Watch something all necessary =)
Well, here they are from MoE 7 (Tineidae 1):

14a-d -- typical anthracinalis
14e-f -- monetella phenotype (it is treated as a synonym of anthracinalis, since the original description says that there are transitional forms to typical butterflies)
15a-с -- ophisa

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The post was edited by kotbegemot - 04/20/2020 19: 23
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20.04.2020 20:00, Dark-f

Did I understand correctly that I have Euplocamus anthracinalis males?)

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20.04.2020 20:20, Vlad Proklov

Did I understand correctly that I have Euplocamus anthracinalis males?)

Uh-yes, the phenotype of monetella is probably a separate species from anthracinalis (most likely it is), or maybe just a light form.
Diagnostic rear wings with a light pattern.

The post was edited by kotbegemot - 04/20/2020 23: 45

20.04.2020 21:32, vafdog

1 - Cymatophoropsis trimaculata
2-Stenoloba jankowskii
3-Scirpophaga xanthopygata and S. praelata (if I understood correctly that her ass hairs are white)

This quote again..
If I understand correctly, the hair brush feature only works in females. On the photo ♂ and мб mb?
By the way, Slamka says the opposite in terms of brush color: xanthopygata - gray, praelata-pale ochre, what is a mistake?

20.04.2020 21:53, Vlad Proklov

This quote again..
If I understand correctly, the hair brush feature only works in females. On the photo ♂ and мб mb?
By the way, Slamka says the opposite in terms of brush color: xanthopygata - gray, praelata-pale ochre, what is a mistake?

In the photo there are two females, like (males do not have such hair).
And I wrote about the error in Slamka already here.

21.04.2020 10:33, Dark-f

In the photo there are two females, like (males do not have such hair).
And I wrote about the error in Slamka already here.


What is the difference between females of Scirpophaga xanthopygata and Scirpophaga praelata? But males can hardly be distinguished by external signs, is that so? Or do they still have some distinctive features?

21.04.2020 12:15, Сергей-Д

they write that in males, the cilia of the whiskers are longer than the thickness of the rod in praelata, shorter in xanthopygata

21.04.2020 12:15, VitSev

Please help me identify the golubyanka. Brown?
Sevastopol, 21.04.2020.

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21.04.2020 13:04, Dark-f

they write that in males, the cilia of the whiskers are longer than the thickness of the rod in praelata, shorter in xanthopygata


Yes, that's the way it is. Thank you, I figured it out!
I have both praelata and xanthopygata males. Praelata males seem to have thicker antennae than xanthopygata males. Males of xanthopygata are quite thin, well, I would not say that the cilia are shorter than the thickness of the rod. Approximately equal. Well, or a little longer than the rod. And in praelata males, the cilia are long, especially at the base of the shaft, you can't go wrong. But, having one of these views is unlikely to determine, if you have not seen the difference between them with your own eyes.

21.04.2020 18:49, гук

Please help me identify the golubyanka. Brown?
Sevastopol, 21.04.2020.

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Possible
http://babochki-kavkaza.ru/index.php/lycae...artaxerxes.html
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21.04.2020 21:31, MacrohunterLS

Here are a couple more copies from the same place (Cc foothills)

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22.04.2020 14:20, Dark-f

Gentlemen, please help me with the definition of these butterflies.

Photo "a" - Russia, Stavropol Territory, Zheleznovodsk. 06.04.2018
Is it correct that the male number 1 is Biston strataria (Hufnagel, 1767),
is it a subspecies, or is it a different species?
And at number 2, what kind of female? Its belly was even thicker and slightly longer before it dried out.

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Photo " b " - Russia, Karachay-Cherkessia, Zelenchuksky district, Arkhyzskoe. 24.05.2012

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Photo " b " is a butterfly of the same species or are they different species? If they are different, how many similar species are there in the Moscow region, and which ones?

№№ 8; 12; 13; 14; 15 - Russia, Moscow region, Pushkinsky district, Koptelino. 07.05.2013
No. 10; 16-Russia, Moscow region, Shchelkovo. 17.04.2015
№№ 6; 7; 9; 11 - Shchelkovo, Moscow region, Russia. 29.04.2015

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22.04.2020 16:38, svm2

a)
1-B. strataria
2-Lycia nessesaria-in any case, it exists in the Caucasus and is very similar

22.04.2020 18:49, Dark-f

a)
1-B. strataria
2-Lycia nessesaria-in any case, it exists in the Caucasus and is very similar


Thank you.
Can anyone know how to distinguish males of Lycia hirtaria from males of Lycia nessesaria? I found on the Internet only one nedofotku Lycia nessesaria, do not understand what the difference is?!

22.04.2020 19:55, svm2

I already wrote above how to go to volume 6 G M E
G L. n. and to Google books
then show everything, there is a description and tables

22.04.2020 20:00, Dark-f

I already wrote above how to go to volume 6 G M E
D L. n. and to Google books
then show everything, there is a description and tables


Thank you.
I looked it up. Males of L. nessesaria are slightly lighter in color. In general, there are no differences, just cook.

This post was edited by Dark-f-04/23/2020 09: 05

23.04.2020 12:17, svm2

A good image of the male nessesaria is found on the disc Geometridae mundi, although there it is not Lycia, but Amorphogynia. Unfortunately, the images are not attached.

23.04.2020 22:58, Alexandr Zhakov

Gentlemen, please help me with the definition of these butterflies.
Photo " b " is a butterfly of the same species or are they different species? If they are different, how many similar species are there in the Moscow region, and which ones?

№№ 8; 12; 13; 14; 15 - Russia, Moscow region, Pushkinsky district, Koptelino. 07.05.2013
No. 10; 16-Russia, Moscow region, Shchelkovo. 17.04.2015
№№ 6; 7; 9; 11 - Shchelkovo, Moscow region, Russia. 29.04.2015

In my opinion all Semioscopis avellanella.

23.04.2020 23:04, Vlad Proklov

In my opinion, all Semioscopis avellanella.

First row (6-9) -- oculella!
Maybe 15 and 16 -- steinkellneriana, but you can't tell from this photo

In total, there are 4 species of them in the region, all spring ones.

The post was edited by kotbegemot - 04/23/2020 23: 06

24.04.2020 10:23, Dark-f

First row (6-9) -- oculella!
Maybe 15 and 16 -- steinkellneriana, but you can't tell from this photo

In total, there are 4 species of them in the region, all spring ones.


Thank you very much! Now it is clear where to "dig" smile.gif
Djon, thank you very much too!

25.04.2020 1:20, John-ST

Help me identify
the Cucullia lucifuga cowl?

06.06.2019
Moscow region, Zheleznodorozhny on light

https://yadi.sk/i/pOHrrS8Xhk4q3A

The post was edited by John-ST-25.04.2020 01: 21

25.04.2020 15:59, Раду Кибзий

Hello! Please tell me, is this Hypena rostralis? Chisinau neighborhood, October 14, 2019. Thank you in advance!
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26.04.2020 13:51, Раду Кибзий

Hello! Please tell me, is this Hypena rostralis? Chisinau neighborhood, October 14, 2019. Thank you in advance!
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26.04.2020 14:52, WesternDragon

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In my opinion this is the most common Hypena rostralis
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27.04.2020 22:36, MIV

What families should this "micra" belong to? Maybe someone is familiar with the view? I will be very grateful.

1. 19mm-Okr. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe. 7.06.17.
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2. 18mm-Okr. Krasnoyarsk, garden. uch-K. 10.07.17.
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3. 19mm-Okr. Krasnoyarsk, garden. uch-K. 10.07.17.
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4. 16mm-Krasnoyarsk, city limits, to the light. 8.06.19.
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27.04.2020 22:41, Vlad Proklov

What families should this "micra" belong to? Maybe someone is familiar with the view? I will be very grateful.

The first three - leafwrappers
1-Hedya dimidiana
2-interesting, something Siberian, I have not seen such
3-Celypha rufana? in my opinion

4-tattered Tineidae
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28.04.2020 14:00, vidjl

What families should this "micra" belong to? Maybe someone is familiar with the view? I will be very grateful.
2. 18mm-Okr. Krasnoyarsk, garden. uch-K. 10.07.17.
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Maybe Phtheochroa inopiana is shabby?
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28.04.2020 22:36, MIV

The first three - leafwrappers
1-Hedya dimidiana
2-interesting, something Siberian, I have not seen such
3-Celypha rufana? in my opinion

4-torn Tineidae


Thank you, Vlad! And # 4 is still semi-dirty smile.gif.

29.04.2020 10:27, Freeman72rus

Good afternoon! Tyumen, found dead on the windowsill of the 8th floor, 28.04.2020.
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29.04.2020 16:23, Alexandr Zhakov

Good afternoon! Tyumen, found dead on the windowsill of the 8th floor, 28.04.2020.

All photos are not very informative, please give a photo on the side, on a piece of paper in a square or graph paper, or specify the size.

29.04.2020 19:20, Freeman72rus

All photos are not very informative, so give a photo from the side, on a piece of paper in a cell or graph paper, or specify the size.


Here is a photo on a notebook sheet. The size is about 5 mm.
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29.04.2020 21:31, Alexandr Zhakov

Here is a photo on a notebook sheet. The size is about 5 mm.

I will make an assumption that this is Lyonetia clerkella/prunifoliella.
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29.04.2020 21:46, Vlad Proklov

I will suggest that this is Lyonetia clerkella/prunifoliella.

This is L. prunifoliella, and the author is a troll.
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29.04.2020 23:05, MacrohunterLS

In the garden. Foothills of the Red Mountains. kr. What could it be?
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29.04.2020 23:51, Vlad Proklov

In the garden. Foothills of the Red Mountains. kr. What could it be?

It looks like Endothenia nigricostana
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30.04.2020 6:43, Freeman72rus

This is L. prunifoliella, and the author is a troll.

I'm not a troll, but just a noob who doesn't know anything about insects and is curious about what's around him in the world, or at least at home.
I apologize if any of my actions gave the impression of mockery, there was no intent in this.
For the definition-thank you very much!

30.04.2020 21:00, MIV

1. I think that this is a firefly, a female. Quite large-the span of the cr. 34
mm. Near Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe. 14.07.19.
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And a couple more fires. Maybe someone knows them?

2. Span of cr. 25 mm. 20.06.15
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3. Span kr. 19 mm. 14.07.19.
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