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Definition of ground beetles of the genus Carabus

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13.01.2012 18:54, rpanin

no, this is a separate species, they have different bags, your specimens are purely outwardly reminiscent of Prometheus, although there are doubts about the second one.

There are differences, but not so fundamental. I will give a lot of examples when there are differences at the genital level, and even in the subspecies are not highlighted, let alone in the species.
You should be more critical.

13.01.2012 19:23, Dorcadion

I don't dispute that, but for the archplectes, who are separated only by a river, the difference is normal

and a small illustration, in case anyone is interested...

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13.01.2012 19:26, rpanin

[quote=Dorcadion,13.01.2012 20:53]

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13.01.2012 19:41, Dorcadion

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14.01.2012 2:26, RippeR

I don't dispute that, but for the archplectes, who are separated only by a river, the difference is normal
and a small illustration, in case anyone is interested...

What eggs!

14.01.2012 2:33, RippeR

Deroplectes
on the left - 4.8.2011, Darvaz, Haburobad, ~2900m
on the right-16.6.2011, Petr-1, Tajikobad district, Daray-Nazarak gorge
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Ulocarabus?
left - 16.5.2011 petr-1, Jirgital district, Muksu river
on the right is the same as Deroplectes, Petr-1
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Sayan Mountains, Mondy, June 10, Morphocarabus ? odoratus
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14.01.2012 11:18, Dorcadion

What eggs!

What did you want to do?!

About Ulocarabus it's like stschurowskii

And I also have odoratus from Monde, defined as melleus...

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14.01.2012 14:50, RippeR

I'm not even sure what Ulokarabus is. And the strange thing is that the specimen from the same ridge, but a different place and time is quite different-sculpture, pronotum, head, dotted line..

So what about odoratus?

16.01.2012 11:42, Aleksandr Safronov

Deroplectes
on the left - 4.8.2011, Darvaz, Haburobad, ~2900m
on the right-16.6.2011, Petr-1, Tajikobad district, Daray-Nazarak gorge
Ulocarabus?
left - 16.5.2011 petr-1, Jirgital district, Muksu river
right same as Deroplectes, Petr-1
Sayany, Mondy, June 10, Morphocarabus ? odoratus

IMHO-
Deroplectes:
On the left , C. (Deroplectes) dokhtouroffi ssp. pseudomidas Mandl, 1967.
On the right is C. (Deroplectes) dokhtouroffi dokhtouroffi Ganglbauer, 1886.

Ulocarabus-like yes, but then-pass. Most likely sp. stschurovskii, from which ssp. lineellus Haury, 1886 was also described. How polymorphic the species is, I can't say. The instance on the left is significantly different from the other two.

Sayan: Dorcadion prava-S. (Morhocarabus) odoratus ssp. melleus Lapouge, 1909.

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22.01.2012 14:33, Dergg

exaratus, septemcarinatus, or both? All three specimens, however, were caught in the same forest at a distance of about 50 m from each other. Krasnodar Krai, Anapa district, Sukhoi Liman tract, August 2011.

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22.01.2012 16:28, Dorcadion

This is all exaratus...

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24.01.2012 22:10, I.solod

And maybe not all exaratus
#2 is questionable. It is interesting that there in these places they meet together because of the small heights of the GCH and are extremely similar to each other - the only thing is the study of the male's aedeagus,

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26.01.2012 22:09, Dergg

Yes, I also had doubts about No. 2 - because of the more poorly defined ribs in the secondary spaces, and compared to male No. 3, it seems to have a slightly different body shape...

26.02.2012 14:44, Evgeniy Ribalchenko

Carabus (Megadontus) violaceus?
Gentlemen, I doubt a little with the view. assembled in Poltava (Ukraine). I know myself, the condition is bad and the elytra is pierced in the wrong place

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26.02.2012 18:53, Shtil

He, my dear. Just right Meg o dontus

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28.02.2012 12:53, rpanin

Carabus (Megodontus) violaceus aurolimbatus Dejean, 1829

12.03.2012 11:50, Алексей Сажнев

Kyrgyzstan

it is similar to Trachycarabus, but for those parts Kryzhanovsky cites only mandibularis Fischer von Waldheim, 1828, my specimen is not particularly similar to it.

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18.03.2012 14:14, Bad Den

Kazakhstan, Zaisansky district, Saur hr., Tas city, 2350-2600 m, 47º15'N; 85º04'E, 20-22. 07. 2011

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23.03.2012 0:43, I.solod

By appearance, most likely, and by label
C.(Morphocarabus) tarbogataicus tarbogataicus

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22.07.2012 14:46, Honza

Dear friends, please help with the definition.

Carabus (Cratocechenus) sp. ?

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22.07.2012 21:28, beetl

Dear colleagues!
Help identify ground beetles: Western Turkmenistan, Kyuren-Dag range, south of Mount Kyuren 7-10 km, November 1999

Thank you. Alexander

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22.07.2012 21:34, AGG

I think it's better to come here http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=276770

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22.07.2012 23:15, Nilson

Dear friends, please help with the definition.

Cratocechenus most closely resembles one of the subspecies C. ovtchinnikovi.

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01.08.2012 17:13, I.solod

Dear friends, please help with the definition.

Carabus (Cratocechenus) sp. ?

Most likely, it is a fairly widespread subspecies in the Kyrgyz language.
Carabus (Cratocechenus) akinini ssp. loudai Gottwald, 1987 W-Tianshan:Kyrgyz Mt.R.

01.08.2012 18:03, Honza

Thank you very much.Yes, this is it.I looked at the original descriptions.

27.08.2012 22:17, Владислав91

Help me determine

East Kazakhstan region, Beskaragaysky district, August, berezovy kolok

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08.09.2012 19:53, rpanin

17mm
15mm
?Beder riv., 26.VI.1996, Krasnov M. leg.
Endophallus of the mestscherjakovi-odoratus type .
From the same point of view, something similar to Pterostichus (Lenapterus) cancellatus.(Google didn't find such a river)

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08.09.2012 20:13, rpanin

Help me determine

East Kazakhstan region, Beskaragaysky district, August, berezovy kolok

Trachycarabus ? mandibularis

08.09.2012 21:19, Shtil

17mm
15mm
?Beder riv., 26.VI.1996, Krasnov M. leg.
Endophallus of the mestscherjakovi-odoratus type .
From the same point of view, something similar to Pterostichus (Lenapterus) cancellatus.(Google didn't find such a river)

I also have this animal with the same label. In addition to R. Beder (I also didn't find what it is) it was standing-Yakutia. I decided for myself - let it be odoratus.

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08.09.2012 21:52, rpanin

I also have this animal with the same label. In addition to R. Beder (I also didn't find what it is) it was standing-Yakutia. I decided for myself - let it be odoratus.

Thanks! Yakutia is already warmer.

10.09.2012 23:17, I.solod

Most likely Carabus (Tribax) osseticus Adams, 1817

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10.09.2012 23:26, I.solod

17mm
15mm
?Beder riv., 26.VI.1996, Krasnov M. leg.
Endophallus of the mestscherjakovi-odoratus type .
From the same point of view, something similar to Pterostichus (Lenapterus) cancellatus.(Google didn't find such a river)

A strange combination of aedeagus and beetle characters-but most likely it resembles viridilimbatus Motschulsky, 1845 (rather an undescribed subspecies) - I consider it an independent species from odoratus - I know the sympathies of their habitat in Taimyr and in XP. Kodar. (I have beetles from these places)

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11.09.2012 7:29, Bad Den

Thank you for your help in identifying the Carabus (Tribax) osseticus Adams and I am making a new request)
Caught in the Caucasus(North Ossetia, Koban gorge, slope forest)
approx 2.3 cm

In my opinion it is Carabus granulatus

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11.09.2012 7:55, Shtil

plus, most likely the leander subspecies.

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12.09.2012 22:37, John-ST

I also have this animal with the same label. In addition to R. Beder (I also didn't find what it is) it was standing-Yakutia. I decided for myself - let it be odoratus.

Beder River, Neryungrinsky district, Sakha (Yakutia), right tributary of the Algama River

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Yandex finds everything)))

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13.09.2012 13:36, rpanin

[quote=John-ST,13.09.2012 00:07]

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29.09.2012 10:51, GlebSinon

Here, a fresh couple came to hand: AR Crimea, Simferopol, Chatyr-Dag plateau, the first-under a flat stone, h~800m, the second-on the wall at the entrance to the Emine-Bair-Khosar cave, h~900m.

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29.09.2012 16:30, Shtil

Carabus (Megodontus) gyllenhali Fischer, 1827

27.11.2012 17:17, Tomas

Please help me. Cratocechenus ??? 19,5 mm, KYRGYZSTAN, Bishkek, Ala Archa, 20.V. - 2. VI. 2012. Thank you very much.
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28.11.2012 12:41, Shtil

It seems to be similar to jacobsoni...

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