Definition of ground beetles of the genus Carabus

  
Tajikistan, South slope of the Hissar region, Takob (45 km north of Dushanbe)
! the label may be a mess
13.5 mm
Maybe some kind of LEPTOPLESIUS ?

Similar to the Carabus (Cechenotribax) petri ssp.
Then the label is definitely wrong. He lives in Kyrgyzstan.

Similar to the Carabus (Cechenotribax) petri ssp.
Then the label is definitely wrong. He lives in Kyrgyzstan.

Thanks!
Yes, I also think about Cechenotribax. It turns out that the label is still a mess.

Yes, this
is Carabus (CECHENOTRIBAX) petri Semenov & Znojko, 1932
N-Tianshan:Ketmen Mt. R., Dzhungar Alatau, Borohoro Shan; "Kuldzha"
but the label is extremely odd

Yes, this
is Carabus (CECHENOTRIBAX) petri Semenov & Znojko, 1932
N-Tianshan:Ketmen Mt. R., Dzhungar Alatau, Borohoro Shan; "Kuldzha"
but the label is extremely strange

I've already dug around and found out the exact label.
SE Kazakhstan, N-Tianshan, N-slopes Ketmen Mt.Rng. h=2250-2500m., near Ketmen vill., 1-5.VI.1990,
Dolin V.G. leg.

I looked through all the buzzers,but I didn't find a complete similarity.Belarus, Borisov village, pine forest border, 28mm, elytra without dots and pits, linear pattern only, elegant build, June 2011.

I looked through all the buzzers,but I didn't find a complete similarity.Belarus, Borisov village, border of a pine forest, 28mm, elytra without dots and pits, only linear pattern, elegant build, June 2011.

The general outline of the body resembles C. glabratus

or violaceus bad photo

Buy fotik with macro, perefotayu, glabratus noticeably chunkier, imho, on the elytra weak smooth lines, no other shades except black net

Tilt it a little to one side and take a picture in the light - but before that, wipe the nadkr. especially the border with ethyl acetate on cotton wool-or just nail polish remover - it will show the appearance, even with such a photo. Violaceus is a very heterogeneous species, even for Belarus, and there are all color shades from blue-through blue and purple to black. But it may also be glabratus

If the line pattern on the elites is more likely violaceus, only it's too black

By the will of fate, the beautiful arks fell into my hands:1-apotomopterus breuningianus China Guangdong provins, и Coptolabrus augustus.sp.mT.Jiangxi Prov.I have huge thoughts about fucking stickers.New photo editor!Nikon 120L, first photos.Your opinion.

By the will of fate, the beautiful arks fell into my hands:1-apotomopterus breuningianus China Guangdong provins, и Coptolabrus augustus.sp.mT.Jiangxi Prov.I have huge thoughts about fucking stickers.New photo editor!Nikon 120L, first photos.Your opinion.

What's so confusing about" fucking " stickers?
There are no pictures, isn't it obvious? You need to shoot in the "macro" mode, bringing the lens as close as possible to the subject. The object must be illuminated with some kind of light source. And of course, the subsequent processing in the image editor.

There was a whole topic about pricking or gluing. I prick, it's more convenient for me and I don't bother about spoiling the beetle's commercial appearance, some friends glue it. What you have more soul lies-so do it.
And when straightening, it is advisable to move the legs as close to the body as possible, and bring the antennae back, along the elytra. Maybe it doesn't look so aesthetically pleasing, but the material takes up less space and reduces the likelihood of breaking off limbs accidentally caught on something.

By the will of fate, the beautiful arks fell into my hands:1-apotomopterus breuningianus China Guangdong provins, и Coptolabrus augustus.sp.mT.Jiangxi Prov.I have huge thoughts about fucking stickers.New photo editor!Nikon 120L, first photos.Your opinion.

Such a crucified beetle will have its remaining legs falling off later... What's wrong with the stickers? "Fucking" - still half the trouble, it is necessary that they were at all if you are about labeling

The word-fucking-did not apply correctly-forgive me generously!Imho labels from Chinese sellers of packaged material, especially ground beetles, may not be correct.I will stick on the dies, I think the legs will not fall off.

The word-fucking-did not apply correctly-forgive me generously!Imho labels from Chinese sellers of packaged material, especially ground beetles, may not be correct.I will stick on the dies, I think the legs will not fall off.

These localities can only be doubted by C. (Apotomopterus) breuningianus, since it is specified for the province of Guangxi. Prov. Guangdong borders on Guangxi, so it is quite possible that there is no mistake. I think that localities in China will be adjusted for a long time.
If you glue beetles with such a spread, the die will be of huge size. I don't see the point, do you have a lot of boxes? If you pursue aesthetics, IMHO it's not at all aesthetic. Listen to the advice given to you above: "... when straightening, it is advisable to move your legs as close to the body as possible, and bring your antennae back along the elytra...". After a certain time, you will understand that it was impractical to do this. And it will be problematic to peel off and rearrange a bunch of beetles.

I have some doubts about two specimens of the karabus caught in Northern Mongolia (Khubsugul Lake). Immediately upon capture, it seemed to me that these are quite typical females of C. (Megodontus) schoenherri:


However, later, when I compared them with the" canonical " schoenherri from the Altai (Teletskoye Lake), they were also females,

I noticed quite significant, in my opinion, morphological differences:
- the head of Altai specimens is much more thickened and massive than that of Mongolian ones;
- the notches in front of the posterior corners of the pronotum in Altai specimens are much deeper than in Mongolian specimens, in which they are generally barely pronounced;
- in Altai specimens, the border and corners of the pronotum are blue, in Mongolian the entire pronotum is evenly colored with a purple tint;
- in Altai specimens, the mandibles are short and massive, in Mongolian more elongated, crescent-shaped;


In the Altai carabus, the elytra border is purple, while in the Mongolian carabus, it is greenish.
I had a fairly large sample of Altai schoenherri, and they all had features as described above.
In general, I have a question: what can we say about the Mongolian Karabus? Is it an aberration of schoenherri, or a subspecies, or not schoenherri at all? Maybe this is such a bizarre subspecies of imperalis? Or it is schoenherri sajanus - but it should not be there, according to the literature it is endemic to Z. Sayana, and Khubsugul is V. Sayan. According to the keys from Shilenkov, I can't say for sure whether this is sajanus (the key sign - the median tooth of the right mandible-seems to me to be two-pronged in both of them).

This is definitely Carabus schoenherri , but belonging to a subspecies is a murky business there. yes, and males are needed - in the photo-there is a clear difference from the Altai ones-but you need to see the series-maybe this is just such a local nation or the form runs from northern Mongolia.

Unfortunately, only two females were captured in Mongolia, which will certainly make it difficult to identify the Mongolian population by genital characteristics...

I have now looked at my own, at the revision - there is an option-very similar to schoenherri sangilenus Obydov, 1997/ but it can also be a new taxon

And schoenherri sangilenus geographically from where? Close to Mongolia?

C.schoenherri sangilenus Obydov, 1997 is synonymized as a nominative subspecies. It was described from St. Tuva from the Christian era.Sangilen is actually very close to Mongolia.

Sorry to interrupt, but this is a different Mongolia The beetle was caught on the eastern shore of Lake Baikal. Hubsugul.

Yes, Tolya is right. I just looked at the map where Sangilen is located. It turns out that although all this is the Eastern Sayan, the ridge (highland) Sangilen is quite far from the mountain range where the beetles in question were caught, separated from it by several other ridges and a long lake. If the Sangilen Shonerri is a local population, it is unlikely that it should reach the eastern Prikhubsugul.

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Colleagues! There is such a beetle, but it is impossible to identify it. 29mm. Caught on August 5, 2008 KhMAO. Okresnosti g.Khanty-Mansiysk. Can someone direct it?

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Colleagues! There is such a beetle, but it is impossible to identify it. 29mm. Caught on August 5, 2008 KhMAO. Okresnosti g.Khanty-Mansiysk. Can someone direct it?

IMHO, Carabus (Morphocarabus) aeruginosus Fischer, 1822

Good day to all.
Please help me identify the next two animals.
First, it is clear that the archplectes is not prometheus by chance?
The second one is like someone from Eotribax?

1-Adygea, near the city of Maykop. Oak-hornbeam forest. 08.05.2011 - 37 mm.


2-Kyrgyzstan, 80 km. VYUV Talas, approx. per. Otmek, H=3000 m. 17.06.2000-17 mm
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And another tribax to follow.
3-Adygea, near the city of Maykop. Oak-hornbeam forest. 08.05.2011 - 27 mm.

Thank You In Advance!

1-Adygea, near the city of Maykop. - if from the orographically right bank of the Belaya River - miroshnikovi, the left bank-prometheus

tribax after you-circasicus

1-Adygea, near the city of Maykop. - if from the orographically right bank of the Belaya River - miroshnikovi, the left bank-prometheus

tribax after you - circasicus

Thanks!
For the archiplect, alas, there is no more detailed data - I didn't catch it.

it is difficult to tell from the female, if the male-both the shape of the edagus and the bag are perfectly different. and who is the importer?

Collector V. V. Martynov - As soon as I meet him, I'll find out more about the point. Fortunately, we live in the same city. There are males-in principle, it will be possible to blow them out.
By the way, there is an outwardly absolutely identical copy from Abkhazia (I don't remember exactly the point now).

There are no Prometheus species in Abkhazia. There are many interesting views from other groups. It is interesting to look at the photo with the locality

Oh, good! After 10 minutes it will!

you don't even need to blow it out. if the end blade of the penis is strongly bent (about 80 degrees-miroshnikovi, if not very much-forms a more or less obtuse angle-prometheus). In terms of bags, Miroshnikova's bag is much shorter.
Habitually, it is difficult to understand the difference - I have a box of prometheus and miroshnikovs from different points - in the general sample, Miroshnikovs are slightly narrower and smaller than prometheus. And the spread of their body length is stronger.

Ugh, I was wrong! He is not from Abkhazia - Alexander, sorry. Here's another confirmation - never trust your memory! But the photo is still here:

Adygea, approx. village Hajoh. 3-5. 08.2009

Again, if from the right bank of Belaya-miroshnikovi, the left bank-prometheus

Good day to all.
Please help me identify the next two animals.
The second one is like someone from Eotribax?
2-Kyrgyzstan, 80 km. VYUV Talas, approx. per. Otmek, H=3000 m. 17.06.2000 - 17 mm.

IMHO, C. (Cratocechenus) akinini ssp.

Again, if from the right bank of Belaya-Miroshnikovy, the left bank-prometheus

Miroshnikovi - subspecies Carabus prometheus

no, this is a separate species, they have different bags, your specimens are purely outwardly reminiscent of Prometheus, although there are doubts about the second one.