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Definition of ground beetles of the genus Carabus

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04.07.2013 20:54, rpanin

I will assume that Carabus (Procrustes) banoni Dejean, 1829.
But it is better to wait for specialists smile.gif

Yes, this is Carabus (Procrustes) banoni
http://carabidae.org/carabidae/taxa/banoni-dejean-1829.html
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22.07.2013 9:09, LITL NIKA

tell me who it is. KCR. Archyz. SN Ermolovka under the stone L-- 19 mm 21.07.2013
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22.07.2013 17:11, AlexandrB

This is not a Carabus.
This is Pterostichus (Myosodus) lacunosus
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09.08.2013 10:04, LITL NIKA

Carabus from Lunnaya polyana Arkhyz to traps July L-27 mm
Carabus (Archiplectes) edithae markensis Gottwald, 1985 ???
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11.08.2013 9:00, LITL NIKA

Caught in the traps 13.07. - 10.08. 2013 right bank of the Kuban for the village of Kamenomost L -32 mm
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14.08.2013 11:16, Honza

Carabus (Alipaster) pupulus Morawitz, 1889

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14.08.2013 11:58, Mantispid

  Carabus (Alipaster) pupulus Morawitz, 1889

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Carabus pupulus

Tian-Shan, Kokshaal-Too mts., 3-14.07.1999, 4200 m
Tien-Shan, Kokshaal-Too Ridge

14.08.2013 15:38, Honza

Carabus pupulus

Tian-Shan, Kokshaal-Too mts., 3-14. 07. 1999, 4200 m
Tien-Shan, Kokshaal-Too ridge



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15.08.2013 19:56, vafdog

Please define it. Ukraine, Cherkasy region 23.06.13

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15.08.2013 20:06, rpanin

Please define it. Ukraine, Cherkasy region 23.06.13

C. intricatus
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31.08.2013 18:09, LITL NIKA

Tell me who . KCR Arkhyz in traps August month.
Carabus (Tribax) biebersteini otcharensis Kurnakov, 1970 ???
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31.08.2013 20:15, AlexandrB

This is Carabus (Tribax) constantinowi constantinowi (=biebersteini constantinowi).
ssp. otcharensis lives in Abkhazia
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01.09.2013 6:41, LITL NIKA

This is Carabus (Tribax) constantinowi constantinowi (=biebersteini constantinowi).
ssp. otcharensis lives in Abkhazia

And in Carabus (Tribax) constantinowi constantinowi (=biebersteini constantinowi). red paws?
And can't Carabus (Tribax) biebersteini otcharensis Kurnakov, 1970 migrate from Abkhazia to the KCR via GKH ?

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01.09.2013 7:49, Honza

The Carabus of Abkhazia, Caucasus

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01.09.2013 8:10, amara

And in Carabus (Tribax) constantinowi constantinowi (=biebersteini constantinowi). red paws?
And can't Carabus (Tribax) biebersteini otcharensis Kurnakov, 1970 migrate from Abkhazia to the KCR via GKH ?


In biological essence, this is one species, that is, some part of individuals moves from the area of one subspecies to the area of another and their mixing occurs (this is what keeps the species as a single one!). But this is only a small part, and most individuals live and mate in their own area (separated from another subspecies by some barrier, for example, a mountain) and they begin to traverse some (so beloved by collectors! smile.gif ) features, such as color, from other individuals living in a different place, separated from the first by a barrier.
Thus, the accumulated differences make it possible to consider a group of species of one habitat as one subspecies, and those living in another habitat and separated from the first by some predgada, another subspecies.
That is, a subspecies is a group of individuals of one species living in a CERTAIN territory, and they can only migrate to the territory of another subspecies by mixing with individuals of another territory on the border of these two territories and as a result losing their own (so beloved by collectors! smile.gif ) external attributes.
In short, each separate territory has its own subspecies.

And I can't help but recall that O. L. Kryzhanovsky, now deceased and one of the greatest experts on ground beetles, wrote in the Fauna of the USSR in 1983 (I quote from memory) that due to the special love of collectors for this genus, so many mostly intraspecific names were stamped that it is more confusing than it makes it easier to understand the taxonomy of this genus. smile.gif
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01.09.2013 11:52, LITL NIKA

In biological essence, this is one species, that is, some part of individuals moves from the area of one subspecies to the area of another and their mixing occurs (this is what keeps the species as a single one!). But this is only a small part, and most individuals live and mate in their own area (separated from another subspecies by some barrier, for example, a mountain) and they begin to traverse some (so beloved by collectors! smile.gif ) features, such as color, from other individuals living in a different place, separated from the first by a barrier.
Thus, the accumulated differences make it possible to consider a group of species of one habitat as one subspecies, and those living in another habitat and separated from the first by some predgada, another subspecies.
That is, a subspecies is a group of individuals of one species living in a CERTAIN territory, and they can only migrate to the territory of another subspecies by mixing with individuals of another territory on the border of these two territories and as a result losing their own (so beloved by collectors! smile.gif ) external attributes.
In short, each separate territory has its own subspecies.

And I can't help but recall that O. L. Kryzhanovsky, now deceased and one of the greatest experts on ground beetles, wrote in the Fauna of the USSR in 1983 (I quote from memory) that due to the special love of collectors for this genus, so many mostly intraspecific names were stamped that it is more confusing than it makes it easier to understand the taxonomy of this genus. smile.gif

Okay, we'll wait for next year and if there are any more, we'll give them to specialists for research.But it may also be that the range is expanding? Another one from the same traps Arkhyz August
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01.09.2013 13:10, amara

01.09.2013 13:36, LITL NIKA

Here again, bilogical thinking is necessary. Namely, whether they can fly ( most Carabuses have reduced wings and cannot fly). And this affects the possibility of expanding the range, because you can't go far on foot. smile.gif
And second, how high a particular species can go in the mountains, whether it can pass over the ridge.
And, of course, what biotopes this species is confined to (forest, forest edges, etc.), what humidity it tolerates (there are no Carabuses in sandy deserts).

In short, all this should be done.

Yes, I agree, but we don't know how many years he walked maybe 10 years and maybe 300

01.09.2013 15:57, I.solod

Okay, let's look at the beetles and say. the subspecies ocharensis, like the nominative, runs on the alpika at altitudes up to 2500, and the passes there are just lower on the GKH, and in these places the expansion of many Abkhazian forms is observed there-therefore, the presence of such a beast on the northern slopes of the GKH looks more or less natural. But the final verdict is after studying these copies in reality. you can take it out. And any theory should be tightly combined with the realities on the spot-and not be detached. Faunogenesis is extremely individual for each ridge and gorge.
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01.09.2013 16:01, I.solod

Yes, and the sign of red-legged-extremely varies. - maybe it will also be a nominative on the next xp. Arkasara, I caught blackfeet., But what is interesting according to dol. R. B. Laba, abnormal populations (in terms of redfeet) are observed in blackfeet forms of karabus (circassicus-individuals-resembling nominative in appearance - in the center of the range - teberdensis and agnatus along with blackfeet-there are a number of gorges-where only redfeet are)....
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01.09.2013 16:03, I.solod

Or take the same retezari-type form - so in places 50-50 red-legged and black-legged individuals run together and fall into one trap. and by the way, it is close to GKH in the district of Per Sanchara and others
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01.09.2013 16:51, I.solod

This is a complex complex - discussions arise and will continue to arise on it, as new material becomes available in scientific circulation.

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01.09.2013 16:51, I.solod

this is only the first box out of 3 in this group
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01.09.2013 21:18, AlexandrB

In general, most of the Caucasian endemic species are confined to the height. And their settlement took place along the ridges. The drop in altitude was apparently a limiting factor (different microclimate, environmental pessimism). As well as rivers. That's why there are so many very separate forms.
With subspecies - the question is rather slippery. The criteria are quite floating. Some isolated parts of the wedge of a species that once settled, isolated from each other, can in principle be designated as subspecies. In this case, there will naturally be transitional forms between these parts.
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02.09.2013 11:14, LITL NIKA

And the second tribax determine at least who nibud

02.09.2013 11:37, Aleksandr Safronov

Can anyone identify the second tribax

You don't need to specify the size of beetles and the height of n.o. m.Sometimes this is very important.
Carabus (Tribax) circassicus ssp. teberdensis Zolotarev 1913.

02.09.2013 17:48, LITL NIKA

You don't need to specify the size of beetles and the height of n.o. m.Sometimes this is very important.
Carabus (Tribax) circassicus ssp. teberdensis Zolotarev 1913.

Thank you.About the size I will take into account and about the v. n. u. m. in the plans to buy a nafigator with definitions.

02.09.2013 20:56, I.solod

Yes this is it
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05.09.2013 18:03, Honza

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Kirgizie, Tien-Shan,Engilchek ridge, At Dzhajlo pass, 3700m

22 mm

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06.09.2013 2:14, I.solod

there is an option-that this is Leptoplesius merzbacheri ssp. kirgisiensis Mandl, 1967
synonym = juzai Deuve, 1992 Inylchek Mt. R.:Dzhaylo Pass
ranges are the same-the beetle is a little similar to them, but from this pass in his hands did not hold.
slightly resembles the species of the subgenus
CRATOPHYRTUS Reitter, 1896; type species Carabus segregatus Morawitz = Carabus kaufmanni segregatus Morawitz

but I'm more inclined to the first option - but you need to see the beetle in reality - I can't guarantee it from the photo. The peculiarity of Leptoplesius is that only females are known - males are unknown in all taxa of this subgenus

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06.09.2013 21:31, Honza

there is an option-that this is Leptoplesius merzbacheri ssp. kirgisiensis Mandl, 1967
synonym = juzai Deuve, 1992 Inylchek Mt. R.:Dzhaylo Pass
ranges are the same-the beetle is a little similar to them, but from this pass in his hands did not hold.
slightly resembles the species of the subgenus
CRATOPHYRTUS Reitter, 1896; type species Carabus segregatus Morawitz = Carabus kaufmanni segregatus Morawitz

but I'm more inclined to the first option - but you need to see the beetle in reality - I can't guarantee it from the photo. The peculiarity of Leptoplesius is that only females are known - males are unknown in all taxa of this subgenus

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thank you so much for your help. beer.gif

23.09.2013 12:29, Honza

Carabus (Archiplectes) confused.gif

1..........32 mm
2..........38 mm

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23.09.2013 14:22, Aleksandr Safronov

Carabus (Archiplectes) confused.gif

1..........32 mm-C. (Archiplectes) juenthneri ssp. ?pshuensis Gottwald, 1985.
2..........38 mm - C. (Archiplectes) starckianus ssp. starckianus Ganglbauer, 1886.

23.09.2013 15:26, Honza

1..........32 mm-C. (Archiplectes) juenthneri ssp. ?pshuensis Gottwald, 1985.
2..........38 mm - C. (Archiplectes) starckianus ssp. starckianus Ganglbauer, 1886.



C. (Archiplectes) juenthneri pshuensis Gottwald, 1985 or C. (Archiplectes) reitteri pshuensis Gottwald, 1985 ?

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24.09.2013 20:02, I.solod

Unfortunately, no one is right - the type of microsculpture there is not from reiiteri but from the juenthneri group and satyrus
in the new revision-soon
this taxon will go as Carabus (Archiplectes) pseudopshuensis pseudopshuensis Zamotailov stat n.

reitteri isn't there, despite years of research - it's an artifact.

along with it runs the nominative
Carabus (Archiplectes) juenthneri juenthneri fall into one trap-this is the zone of their sympatric habitat and sometimes they are so similar to each other that it is possible to distinguish only if you have seen large series and collected them there yourself

in this illustration, this taxon is the right part of the box - there are individuals from this locale -the first row on the right

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24.09.2013 20:15, I.solod

Carabus (Archiplectes) confused.gif

1..........32 mm
2..........38 mm


and the second is carabus (Archiplectes) obtusus pro obtusus this type of beetles run on xp. Alek-caught them more than once there, especially since the Plastunka is the south spurs of this ridge.

This is an intermediate form - but closer in features to the nominative, and maybe even a good subspecies.

true starkianus occurs from Solokh-Aul and Flagokh town , i.e. from the right bank of the Dagomys River

3rd row on the right

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24.09.2013 21:16, Honza

Thank you for the definition and information.I fixed the labels with the definition.An incredible amount of Archiplectes material in your collection .

25.09.2013 10:35, AlexandrB

To your reitteri account. In reality, reitteri and juenthneri are the same taxon. What can be traced to the fees of A. S. Zamotailov. From the area of Aibgi and ROC. There is a wedge, the extreme part of which is juenthneri. And gradually it completely turns into a typical reitteri. The entire transition spectrum. This is definitely not a hybridization zone, but an intergradation zone. And beetles with Psu sometimes "pop up" signs of "reitteri" in the sculpture. About 1 in 100 beetles. This may once again indicate that this is a single taxon. In populations from other places, this trait simply manifested itself and became "stable". A described reitteri with Psu for single (if not one) instances. There was such an aberration - it was described.
But with the taxa juenthneri and pseudopshuensis, not everything is clear. Whether there is an intergradation zone somewhere in those areas and this is also essentially one taxon, or whether it is still two different ones. They have different bags, but some specimens have common features. Are they hybrids? I don't think this issue can be solved without a hint.
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25.09.2013 19:00, I.solod

I don't quite agree with this - I also have material from A. S. and caught it there myself - and most importantly - that reitteri crosses the Bzyb River without changing its appearance and genitalia - as a species. and in the area of their common habitat - this is the valley of the Gega River-they do not pass into each other.

and from the Serfostnoy River district-yes, I agree - very bright reitteri-but at the same time not turning into juenthneri - I haven't seen any real hybrids - but even if they do, this is all normal for regional populations. But the appearance of externally similar, and judging by everything and the aedeagus of excellent type reitteri with p-not Pskhu-requires further study. Since the population on the left bank of the Bzybi River is also extremely local, surrounded around and together with it by polychrous
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09.10.2013 21:05, Liparus

Today, floodplain forest creeping over the forest floor and under the bark
of fallen NE trees. UKRAINE, Kharkov reg., Chuguev distr., near Eskhar, near st. Datchi

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