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Identification of Diptera (flies, mosquitoes, etc.)

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15.06.2007 19:20, Furslen

But what kind of flies are these, on the greens and droppings of mosquitoes in the char belt? Southern Urals
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15.06.2007 21:44, Tigran Oganesov

In my opinion, some Scatophagidae
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16.06.2007 8:04, Furslen

Scatophaga stercoraria can? Do they always have this dimorphism? The male is much larger

17.06.2007 14:45, nimu

Help plz Diptera to determine the type.
Moscow region

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17.06.2007 19:24, алекс 2611

Help plz Diptera to determine the type.
Moscow region


Dear nimu, I can tell you right away that you won't be able to get to the view from the photo. The maximum can be determined up to the type of buzz (photo1). But to identify a fly from the genus Eristalis from the photo (photo 2) is a complete hopelessness. It's the same with horseflies.
If you are interested in considerations, assumptions and all sorts of speculations , you can think about it...
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17.06.2007 22:59, Zhuk

The maximum can be determined up to the type of buzz (photo1).

Bombylius medius
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19.06.2007 9:10, Tigran Oganesov

4 - Rhingia rostrata (fam. Syrphidae)
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19.06.2007 9:48, алекс 2611

4 - Rhingia rostrata (fam. Syrphidae)


I always have problems with Rhingia: I can't reliably distinguish rostrata from campestris

19.06.2007 10:03, алекс 2611

2-sirphida of the genus Eristalis
5 - horsefly Hybomitra (??? or still Tabanus ???)
3-horsefly of the genus Atylotus. If you consider that from the Moscow region, it looks like Atylotus rusticus L.
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19.06.2007 10:06, Tigran Oganesov

I always have problems with Rhingia: I can't reliably distinguish rostrata from campestris

Hm... Or maybe campestris... Differences in the pubescence of the arista, the shape of the "nose" and the color of the stripes. You can't really tell from this picture.

19.06.2007 10:16, алекс 2611

Hm... Or maybe campestris... Differences in the pubescence of the arista, the shape of the "nose" and the color of the stripes. You can't really tell from this picture.


I understand that in rostrata the abdomen is always yellow (as in the photo), and in campestris it is usually with a black stripe in the middle. But here I read that there are instances of campestris with a completely yellow belly. In general, I'm confused.... I look at my fees, but my Rhingia is not defined to the type. So I ran into some kind of problem...

19.06.2007 10:23, Tigran Oganesov

I understand that in rostrata the abdomen is always yellow (as in the photo), and in campestris it is usually with a black stripe in the middle.
Ha, I used to think so too! I wonder where this came from? I know that in females of rostrata the arista is always naked, while in campestris it is slightly pubescent. But still all this is written with a pitchfork on the water frown.gif
I remember somewhere in the Internet I saw a key for European views, now I'll look for it.

Upd. Found

19.06.2007 15:58, алекс 2611

Ha, I used to think so too! I wonder where this came from? I know that in females of rostrata the arista is always naked, while in campestris it is slightly pubescent. But still all this is written with a pitchfork on the water frown.gif
I remember somewhere in the Internet I saw a key for European views, now I'll look for it.

Upd. Found


Thank you very much!!! I went to determine my fees.

19.06.2007 16:01, алекс 2611

Ha, I used to think so too! I wonder where this came from?

Upd. Found


I took it (as it seems to me) from Violovich - "Sirfids of Siberia and the Far East". At that time, even in the USSR, there were no photocopies, I copied the necessary pieces manually.

19.06.2007 16:21, Tigran Oganesov

Thank you very much!!! I went to determine my fees.
Will you whistle when you're done?" I wonder how they are distributed here.

I took it (as it seems to me) from Violovich - "Sirfids of Siberia and the Far East". At that time, even in the USSR, there were no photocopies, I copied the necessary pieces manually.
And I don't remember, but I didn't seem to hold this book in my hands.

20.06.2007 17:20, алекс 2611

Will you whistle when you're done?" I wonder how they are distributed here.


7 campestris and 2 rostrata (if nothing is wrong-well, I always doubt). All from the Karelian Isthmus.
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20.06.2007 17:23, алекс 2611

 
I don't remember, but I don't think I've ever held this book in my hands.


For fans of sirfid, the book is excellent.
You can also use it in the European part of Russia. Sorry I donfrown.gif't have it

21.06.2007 20:17, Furslen

this is certainly not a fly, ktyr, but I did not find a topic on diptera.
will you be able to specify all the details, despite the low quality of the image?
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22.06.2007 10:04, Zhuk

this is certainly not a fly, ktyr, but I did not find a topic on diptera.
will you be able to specify all the details, despite the low quality of the image?

Laphria flava
Why not a fly? Ktyr is very much a fly smile.gif

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22.06.2007 10:40, алекс 2611

Laphria flava
Why not a fly? Ktyr is very much a fly smile.gif


In general, the scutellum and abdomen of L. flava are pubescent with thick yellow-orange hairs.... Also a yellow tuft of hair on the "face" under the mustache.
In the photo (as far as I can see), all the hairs are black.
To be honest, I don't remember any European Laphria without yellow or white pubescence.
Conclusion: 1. not Laphria flava exactly
2. and in general Laphria whether ?
By the way - where was she caught?

22.06.2007 11:58, Zhuk

This is Laphria!
With a view of Pordon. This is L. gilva.
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22.06.2007 13:14, rpanin

Laphria flava
Why not a fly? Ktyr is very much a fly smile.gif


Nice fly! With a few exceptions.

22.06.2007 13:52, алекс 2611

This is Laphria!
With a view of Pordon. This is L. gilva.


Laphria gilva didn't catch it, but the caller ID says: 1tergite in fluffy white, the rest in adjacent yellowish-red hairs.
Maybe the pubescence of the abdomen is covered by the wings?

22.06.2007 14:45, Bad Den

Laphria gilva didn't catch it, but the caller ID says: 1tergite in fluffy white, the rest in adjacent yellowish-red hairs.
Maybe the pubescence of the abdomen is covered by the wings?

Like here it is:
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22.06.2007 16:54, алекс 2611

Like here it is:
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Yes, it looks like she is.... The photo is a little dark...

22.06.2007 18:00, Zhuk

Yes, it is, 100%. I've caught them before...

23.06.2007 18:28, Furslen

thank you all. if ktyri is suitable for the topic "flies", you can also help with this -user posted image.
Like Laphria gibbosa, but maybe someone else

23.06.2007 22:13, алекс 2611

Like Laphria gibbosa, but maybe someone else


She's the one - Laphria gibbosa
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25.06.2007 7:49, Сергей-Д

Help me identify a couple of ktyres! Caught in Severodonetsk (Ukraine) in mid-June, just over 2 cm long.
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25.06.2007 9:15, алекс 2611

Help me identify a couple of ktyres! Caught in Severodonetsk (Ukraine) in mid-June, just over 2 cm long.


And the second ktyr is also 2 cm ? It seems to resemble Dioctria, but Dioctria is usually smaller.

26.06.2007 7:31, Сергей-Д

to alex 2611: Yes, they are the same size

26.06.2007 8:48, Aleksandr Ermakov

But what kind of flies are these, on the greens and droppings of mosquitoes in the char belt? Southern Urals


And where exactly they collected it. I mean on what ridge (flies are common, though interesting)

26.06.2007 9:37, Furslen

Big Iremel. The saddle between it and Small
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26.06.2007 11:59, amenhotepov

Who's that?"

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26.06.2007 12:36, Сергей-Д

And look at these flies, maybe you'll recognize someone:
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26.06.2007 17:36, алекс 2611

Who's that?"



Photo 1-sirfid from the genus Eristalis (possibly Eristalis tenax?????)
photo 2-Tahina, reminds me of Gonia divisa
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26.06.2007 17:55, алекс 2611

And look at these flies, maybe you'll recognize someone:


Photo 1-tachina of the genus Alophora (now sometimes placed in the genus Phasia in the rank of subgenus). You can't tell up to the view from the photo.
photo 3 - some kind of fly of the Ulidiidae family, it reminds me of Ceroxys urticae, but the color of the wings and pronotum in my specimens is slightly different.
photo 4-a fly of the family Tephritidae, similar to the genus Oxyna ( but the family is difficult to determine, so what ?)
Photo 5-horsefly of the Chrysops genus. I'm afraid of the appearance (although there are some considerations).
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27.06.2007 7:55, Сергей-Д

to alex 2611: are there any suggestions on the key points? Before the view is optional.

27.06.2007 8:42, Tigran Oganesov

photo 3 - some kind of fly of the Ulidiidae family, it reminds me of Ceroxys urticae, but the color of the wings and pronotum in my specimens is slightly different.

It reminds me more of Pollenia sp. (fam. Calliphoridae).

27.06.2007 14:30, алекс 2611

to alex 2611: are there any suggestions on the key points? Before the view is optional.


I look and think... With age, the reaction is no longer the same.... If they don't answer earlier, I'll definitely say something about the first one...

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