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27.06.2007 14:35, алекс 2611

It reminds me more of Pollenia sp. (fam. Calliphoridae).

I think we're both right. photo 3 is probably still Ceroxys urticae, and Pollenia is photo 2. As you wrote, I immediately realized that this is it.

27.06.2007 14:54, Tigran Oganesov

I think we're both right. photo 3 is probably still Ceroxys urticae, and Pollenia is photo 2. As you wrote, I immediately realized that this is her.

Yes, of course number 2. I have a sinful business number overlooked, just read the pictures, and there are two Phases smile.gif

03.07.2007 8:06, Сергей-Д

Take another look at the flies, see if you recognize anyone. Maybe with the squad where I made a mistake and there are no flies
1.2.3.4.

04.07.2007 7:29, amara

Flies are plumpers.
Approx. 5 mm. Smolny region, Gagarinsky district. End of July this year. I got it out of the water tank (maybe a couple of the same type). I don't even know which one. these cubs belong.

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04.07.2007 19:16, алекс 2611

Take another look at the flies, see if you recognize anyone. Maybe with the squad where I made a mistake and there are no flies


photo 2 some kind of tahina. Not Gonia divisa whether it is again (recently was).
But in general, it is difficult to say for sure - the photo is good from an artistic point of view, but it is difficult to determine from it.

Photo 3 - a fly of the Conopidae family. Similar to the Conops genus, but I can't guarantee it.
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04.07.2007 19:22, алекс 2611

I was not too lazy - I took out a box of tahini: photo 2 is very similar to Gonia divisa.
Yes, Sergey. I tormented your ktyry tormented - and did not understand. There would be our northern ones... You have a much richer Ktyri fauna in the south. So - I pass.

04.07.2007 19:27, алекс 2611

Flies are plumpers.
Approx. 5 mm. Smolny region, Gagarinsky district. End of July this year. I got it out of the water tank (maybe a couple of the same type). I don't even know which one. these cubs belong.


Not Acroceridae whether it is.... As far as I understand, they are. There would be a photo of the "face" in front-maybe he said something about the genus.

05.07.2007 7:46, amara

Thank you Alex very much, I haven't even heard of such a thing (in the 1948 determinant of this sem. not yet. I wonder what they were called at that time?). Unfortunately, there are no good photos in the fas.

The most interesting flies turned out to be, (in the old determinant they were Cyrtidae). Here's what I learned from Wikipedia:
Acroceridae is a small family of odd looking flies most closely related to Nemestrinidae. There are about 520 species in 50 genera. They are characterized by a humpbacked appearance and a small head, sometimes with a long proboscis for nectar. As such, acrocerids are commonly known as small-headed flies or hunchback-flies. Many are bee or wasp mimics. Their eyes are often holoptic; indeed their heads seem to be composed primarily of ommatidia. They are cosmopolitan in distribution but rarely observed in most places; the majority of the over 500 species are known from fewer than 10 specimens. They are found most commonly in semi-arid tropical locations.
All small headed flies are parasitoids of spiders. Indeed they are most commonly collected when a spider from the field is brought into captivity. The adults do not seek out their hosts; instead the first instar larvae is a planidium that seeks out spiders. When a spider contacts an acrocerid planidium, the larva grabs hold of the spider, crawls up the spider's legs to its body, and forces its way through the body wall, often lodging near the book lung, where it may remain for years before completing its development. Some obsolete names for Acroceridae include "Cyrtidae" and "Oncodidae".

This post was edited by amara - 05.07.2007 08: 59

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09.07.2007 18:17, алекс 2611

Thank you Alex very much, I haven't even heard of such a thing (in the 1948 determinant of this sem. not yet. I wonder what they were called at that time?). Unfortunately, there are no good photos in the fas.

Previously, this family was called Cyrtidae. I've never caught it myself, even though I want to.
Yes, I can't make out the face... If you still see: -antennae in the upper part of the head(in glasks) - genus Acrocera. - ANTENNAE IN the LOWER PART OF the HEAD genus Oncodes.

10.07.2007 9:23, алекс 2611

Yes, here in the lower photo are the antennae at the very eyes. So-Acrocera.

13.07.2007 11:02, amara

Thanks Alex, this genus in the 1948 determinant (I don't have a green 2 - volume book) was called Parcrocera Sack and only one species was listed-globulus Pz. In the UK. by the way, only 3 species of this family were found. I wonder how much in the "green" for the European part of the USSR?

13.07.2007 14:19, алекс 2611

In the 1928 index, this genus is referred to as Acrocera and also as one species, A. globulus Pz. I have the" green guide " for diptera in photocopied form - each family is in a separate folder, and the folders are on different shelves. Now the authorities have made a dirty offer - to go and work. If I live to see Sunday , I'll definitely find it. Already very interesting.

13.07.2007 14:23, omar

Horses will die from work, well, her...

13.07.2007 16:51, amara

By the way, I found links in Russia, but I don't have the actual works.
So there are people on these flies and we have.

1. Nartshuk, E.P. 2000. On synonymy of Acrocera Meigen and Paracrocera Mik (Diptera: Acroceridae). Zoosystematica Rossica, 8(2), 1999: 300.

Synonymy of Acrocera Meigen and Paracrocera Mik is discussed.

2. Nartshuk, E.P. 2004. Records of Ogcodes shirakii Schlinger from the Far East of Russia (Diptera: Acroceridae).
Zoosystematica Rossica, 12(2), 2003: 262.

Ogcodes shirakii Schlinger, described from Japan, is found in the Primorsk Terr. of Russia

3. Histological Structure of the Cibarial Pump and Cephalic Part of Stomodeum in Adults of Asilomorpha (Diptera): 3. Acroceridae and Bombyliidae
A. A. Panov
Severtsov Institute of Ecology and Evolution, Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow, 117071 Russia
e-mail: sevin@orc.ru
Received March 1, 2001
Abstract—Feeding adults of Acroceridae have a sclerotized anterior pharyngeal pump. Aphagy leads not only to partial or complete reduction of the mouthparts, but also to weakening of the cibario-stomodeal apparatus.

And here's another interesting discussion with photos:
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.p...&thread_id=6967

This post was edited by amara - 13.07.2007 16: 58

15.07.2007 15:14, алекс 2611

I only found a summary of "Flies of Finland". There (in Finland) is one species of Acrocera and 4 species of Ogcodes. In European Russia, there should probably be some other species.
The link is interesting, it's a pity I don't have much English. But at least not German....

15.07.2007 15:17, алекс 2611

Horses will die from work, well, her...


Yes, I also think that normal entomologists should have a rest in July (catch, catch and catch again!). A vacation for some reason given in February.....
However, we have such a nasty July this year, which may work better.

18.07.2007 11:52, amara

Alex, did you get a look at the green one?"

18.07.2007 21:48, алекс 2611

Alex, did you get a look at the green one?"



I did not make a copier of this family.... frown.gifNow I regret it.

23.07.2007 13:08, Furslen

As usual, I ask for help in identifying diptera)
user posted image

23.07.2007 13:51, алекс 2611

I can't seem to get an answer... I will try to repeat
the family Syrphidae, which resembles the genus Xylota. If the substrate on which the fly sits is wood, then most likely it is (Xylota loves fallen trunks very much).
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23.07.2007 15:27, Furslen

Yes. Wood. Thank you.
I forgot to give you the territory-the Southern Urals. Mountain and forest zone of Miass)

This post was edited by Furslen - 07/23/2007 15: 42

25.07.2007 17:26, Zhernov

That's like all diptera (I doubt it at the expense of 2 and 6). As it seems to me, 7 is Ortellia caesarion, and 3 is Graphomyia maculate. The rest I'm afraid to assume..

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27.07.2007 11:14, алекс 2611

2 and 6 are really not flies (6 is some kind of membrane, something painfully familiar, I think I'll figure it out soon).

photo 4 is most likely from the Bombyliidae family.
photo 3 is definitely not Graphomyia maculate, it is some kind of Sarcophagidae, most likely from the genus Sarcophaga.

28.07.2007 0:12, Zhernov

28.07.2007 10:17, алекс 2611

So far, I've identified my flies this way:
1-it looks like Solieria sp.
3-you're right Gray meat eater Sarcophaga carnaria umnik.gif
5-House fly Muscina stabulans (not sure)
7- Phaonia sp.
People help finish off the topic to the end, tired of messing with flies eek.gif


If you want a good definition , it is better to take several photos from different angles for each fly. I would probably define photo 4, but the wing venation is not very visible, the front view of the head would be happy to look....

This post was edited by alex 2611-07/28/2007 10: 18

28.07.2007 23:27, barry

Help us unlock...
2626-20.06.2007. Crimea, Bakhchisarai district, the size of a housefly. Something from buzzed, but with such a pattern on the wings did not find.
2718, 2726-20.06.2007. Crimea, Mangup. Ktyri in the region of 4-5 cm
. 7620-05.06.2007. Kharkov. A black fly, slightly larger than a housefly. Similar to Tachina grossa, but I'm confused by the black "face".

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28.07.2007 23:48, Zhernov

29.07.2007 10:01, алекс 2611

I always do a few and with different ones, another thing is that it doesn't always work out, sometimes the technique fails. Here No. 4 venation seems to be visible and the head


Lomatia lateralis Mg. ?
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29.07.2007 10:02, алекс 2611

Help us unlock...
2626-20.06.2007. Crimea, Bakhchisarai district, the size of a housefly. I was buzzing, but I didn't find anything with this pattern on the wings.


It resembles Argyramoeba varia F.
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30.07.2007 17:37, barry

It resembles Argyramoeba varia F.
Thanks! Something little of it is visible in inet. Rare probably...

31.07.2007 9:24, алекс 2611

Thanks! Something little of it is visible in inet. Rare probably...


Yes, I wanted to check it out, but I couldn't find it in the Internet.
And for life in Flax.it occurs normally in this area.
Generally wildly angry: like butterflies or ground beetles, there are plenty of photos, but like a fly or bee, you can't find them (even the most common types). Well, look how beautiful they are!!!

This post was edited by alex 2611-31.07.2007 09: 27
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31.07.2007 20:43, barry

Yes, I wanted to check it out, but I couldn't find it in the Internet.
And for life in Flax.it occurs normally in this area.
Generally wildly angry: like butterflies or ground beetles, there are plenty of photos, but like a fly or bee, you can't find them (even the most common types). Well, look how beautiful they are!!!
Well, probably ordinary people think that apart from the annoying housefly, there is nothing else in the world. And I, for example, like to take pictures of flies most of all. When you see them up close, the attitude towards them changes dramatically. :-)
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/barrylbm/album/4063/
Can you help me with others?

31.07.2007 23:50, Zhernov

I took a picture of it yesterday. Please help me identify it. The second one, I think, is a blue scavenger, but I doubt it

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01.08.2007 0:04, barry

I took a picture of it yesterday. Please help me identify it. The second one, I think, is a blue scavenger, but I doubt it
Something about the" face " of the second one seems very familiar to me.: -)
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/barrylbm/view/3621/
? Cynomyia mortuorum

01.08.2007 0:09, Zhernov

Something about the" face " of the second one seems very familiar to me.: -)
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/barrylbm/view/3621/
? Cynomyia mortuorum

Yes, it is, and its name is very cool smile.gif

01.08.2007 10:57, алекс 2611

Can you help me with others?


I looked at your album. I can tell you something about diptera and eardrums. Probably better to write in PM.
It is a pity that your photos are not numbered, so you will have to write: the second page is the fourth photo in the third row from the top.
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01.08.2007 13:22, barry

I looked at your album. I can tell you something about diptera and eardrums. Probably better to write in PM.
It is a pity that your photos are not numbered, so you will have to write: the second page is the fourth photo in the third row from the top.
Thanks! I will try to prepare it for the evening with figures on another site, besides, I have a more complete collection there. :-)

01.08.2007 13:55, алекс 2611

Thanks! I will try to prepare it for the evening with figures on another site, besides, I have a more complete collection there.: -)


Maybe not today. I don't think I'll be able to really watch it until Saturday night anyway.

04.08.2007 9:42, алекс 2611

Thanks! I will try to prepare it for the evening with figures on another site, besides, I have a more complete collection there.: -)


Boris, I wanted to tinker with flies, but a different site (with numbers) I never found it...
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04.08.2007 10:16, barry

Boris, I wanted to tinker with flies, but a different site (with numbers) I never found it...

Part here:
http://barry.sa.net.ua/photo/2007-07-KH/
all numbered.

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