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Identification of larvae and pupae

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zmet, 23.06.2006 8:02

In the first decade of June, I had a collision with a caterpillar (near Moscow).
I tried to find a photo of such a caterpillar somewhere, but I didn't find it. I will describe how I can: about 4-5 cm long, plump, hairy (black hair, about 5 mm long, near the head and tail are collected in "bunches", from a distance similar to spikes). The skin itself is dark, with faint yellow spots. Similar to the photo, but it doesn't seem to be the same. The hair was darker, with more yellow spots than outline. Although maybe it's the same one of the other sex smile.gif
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But it's not that I'm really interested in knowing what kind of butterfly it is. When you take this caterpillar in your hands, its villi remain on your fingers. Soon these villi got under the skin, many of them became invisible. Bumps appeared in the place where they hit (now the fingers feel like cucumbers smile.gifto the touch). And a couple of days ago, they began to move (it can be seen that they are spread by blood). Now there are grooves on the hands (1-1.5 cm long). It is not possible to extract the hairs.
Can anyone come across this? Or knows how to deal with it.
Can a caterpillar be poisonous?
I am very much looking forward to your answers.
Thank you.

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23.06.2006 8:33, zmet

I found it here. I think this
user posted imageone is

23.06.2006 9:16, Dmitrii Musolin

that's just what was on this topic:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=101459

It's usually okay, but I don't like the fact that so much time has passed and the tracks are still there... and what are these grooves...?

The poison may not take effect after 2 weeks...

If indeed the traces do not decrease, then you should see a doctor. But read the discussion on the link...
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23.06.2006 9:23, Bad Den

You just have an allergic reaction, if there is no deterioration of the condition, then it will pass - you will live smile.gif
The caterpillar is similar to some kind of wave moth (Lymantriidae) or silkworm (Lasiocampidae, for example Euthrix potatoria)

23.06.2006 9:43, zmet

Oh, thank you! So I won't diesmile.gif, at least not yet.

23.06.2006 12:17, RippeR

Damn, I also found one yesterday, now it's sitting in a cage. This means that we will die together, on the same day (the first half is true) lol.gif lol.gif

26.06.2006 13:11, Nilson

Euthrix potatoria-the second photo is exactly her. I was outputting.

26.06.2006 13:21, Helene

In business!
The second victim of the scam on this Forum! lol.gif

And I take them in my hands - and nothing... confused.gif smile.gif

26.06.2006 16:37, Dmitrii Musolin

 
And I take them in my hands - and nothing... confused.gif  smile.gif


tempering up!!!!
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26.06.2006 18:06, DHL

Cocoon-spinning caterpillars are still nothing, but the same hairy sea worm is an unpleasant creature) After this bastard for two days I couldn't touch my fingers)
PS And the grass cocoonworm didn't have such unpleasant caterpillars - I also calmly picked it up and there was almost no irritation. Here at the oak tree - yes, it's better not to touch it with your hands.

30.06.2006 19:25, taler

And I had it worse...In spring, large cocoons appeared on conifers.Very durable.Stuffed to the brim with caterpillars.Without hesitation, I broke a branch and brought it home.YOU IDIOT !!!
I put it on my desk in my office.As long as it was light,no reactivity in the cocoon was noticeable.But when it got dark....I sat with my back to the cocoon and worked on the computer.And then I felt someone else's presence.Turning around, I was shocked-The whole branch was covered in caterpillars!There were about 200 of them.We must pay tribute to them,they behaved very discirlinnirovanno, not sprawling.Further observations showed that the caterpillars crawl along the branch for the first 2-3 hours,and strictly one after the other.Then, having chosen each needle(needles), she began to sharpen it.At the same time, they behaved quite noisily, of course, 200 jaws are simultaneously gnawing needles!!!
Oh, and I got them some fresh twigs!But as soon as the lights were turned on, the caterpillars returned to the cocoon in an organized manner.With the dawn, only the gnawed branches remained,and the gobblers sat in a cocoon and probably rested.Caterpillars with such an appetite quickly gained in height.
It started somewhere 2-3 days after the arrival of the "new settlers".I began to develop red spots, tumors.I had no direct contact with the caterpillars.I didn't pick it up.From the Internet, I learned that I was dealing with a coniferous silkworm.But I didn't find anything about his allergic "abilities".In short, the case began to take a catastrophic state-swollen eye, itchy body, hands, feet.Someone said that silkworms have such "abilities".I then took the cocoon and threw it out with all its contents!
Later I read in the news about the invasion of the oak silkworm in Germany.It just described the allergic symptoms that I had.Moreover, it was indicated to urgently go to the hospital.Since then, my relationship to caterpillars and cocoons, you know what.

30.06.2006 19:35, Chromocenter

Taler seems to have written something similar to Fabre in "The Life and Mores of Insects". There were also cocoons and similar reactions, he still tried something on himself smile.gifAnd still lived for more than 90 years!

30.06.2006 19:52, taler

to Chromocenter:
Yes, I did.But not a word about allergic abilities.He tormented them more with drill,how many creatures marching around in a circle would stretch lol.gifout, and the silkworm variety,as far as I remember, was different.But by Fabre I found out who I was dealing with

30.06.2006 23:30, Chromocenter

About allergic-yes, I don't remember either, but at that time allergies were still not such a common thing as they are now. And there was still something about redness or something like that, he also wrote about their excrement, that those women who collected something from the plants on which these silkworms were found, collected some spots. In short, silkworms are known to be unpleasant things. By the way-chains of hairy caterpillars (caterpillars about three centimeters long each, hairy, in a chain-about forty pieces) I've seen it here at the Technion more than once. But I didn't touch it: I am generally cautious about volost caterpillars. No photo weep.gifavailable

30.06.2006 23:55, taler

to Chromocenter:
The ones I had were about 5 centimeters long.Vymahali on 7-8 cm.Yes, and the colony is 5 times larger.But after that incident, I don't relate in any way.Breeding butterflies out of caterpillars is not for me.It was enough.Did you move around during the day? eek.gif

02.07.2006 15:58, Chromocenter

No, these were obviously smaller, and they moved very slowly during the day, closer to morning. Not in the summer, of course. In my opinion, there was a case in the fall. As if with reddish spots, and they were dark brown.

26.07.2006 19:53, Tyomochkin

Sorry there are no photos! I think by the description maybe someone will determine confused.gif mol.gif
The caterpillar is black with two rows of yellow spots on the sides, and a red long horn at the rear end! If you can take a photo!

26.07.2006 20:07, guest: a

maybe this?
http://www.leps.it/indexjs.htm?SpeciesPages/HylesEupho.htm

26.07.2006 20:38, Tyomochkin

It looks like this one, but it's all black, on both sides under a row of big spots, small ones! Is there anything else I can eat?"

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26.07.2006 20:49, andr_mih

Hus. Hyles euphorbiae is highly variable. Maybe she is, maybe not. Google it thoroughly, and then show smile.gifit to everyone

26.07.2006 21:44, Tyomochkin

I've searched everything in Google! Full 0! I can't understand it! It feeds on some plant that grows in flower beds. The plant blooms with white flowers.

27.07.2006 9:24, guest: a

What flowers? Petunia? Sweet tobacco? Maybe.then tobacco hawkmoth Manduca sexta? Try to find a feed area first, and then use the keywords hostplants, sphingidae larvae, etc. if this is really a hawk moth.

27.07.2006 14:40, Tyomochkin

No, you can't see the plants. I edited the photo in Paint, it already looks more like it! rolleyes.gif

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27.07.2006 14:42, Tyomochkin

The caterpillar has lost its "stickiness", it can't crawl on plants! And judging by her current appearance, she's either dying or pupating confused.gif
Is it possible that before pupation it will drop its legs?

This post was edited by Tyomochin - 27.07.2006 17: 47

27.07.2006 19:26, Bad Den

Most likely, it is infected with parasites.

27.07.2006 20:03, Tyomochkin

Lessa like crawls and eats. Photos will be available on Saturday.

27.07.2006 21:23, Tyomochkin

Suppose it is Hyles euphorbiae, what does it eat and how does it pupate? mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif confused.gif

28.07.2006 14:29, Bad Den

What can a butterfly caterpillar with the specific epithet "euphorbiae"eat? Of course, the same milkweed smile.gif

28.07.2006 19:57, Tyomochkin

How does the caterpillar know it's time to pupate? By day length and temperature? The apartment is warmer and the lights are on longer?! confused.gif

29.07.2006 17:17, Tyomochkin

Help! The caterpillar grows by the hour! It reached 7.7 cm in length, and a diameter of 4 mm!!!
So the width is almost 1 cm! I don't know what to do! It doesn't look like it's going to pupate! And I don't have time to give food!!! Is it possible to approximate the pupation process?

29.07.2006 19:53, andr_mih

So what does she eat? Milkweed after all? It can grow up to a diameter of 20 mm. Store more of the same grass, there should be no breaks in feeding. A sample of grass is also sent to the scanner - and to the studio. It is not necessary to bring the pupation process closer, otherwise it will discard both paws and sneakers.

29.07.2006 21:48, Tyomochkin

Since the moment of breeding the hawk moth, I have no wine photo, I'll give him a kayak! With photos bummer! And milkweed is different! The one I feed her grows in the fields, in the meadows... The caterpillar adds 1 cm per day! It eats a lot, and I also plow herbs for it!
to andr_mih: Send me photos of a couple of varieties of milkweed, or on the forum or on soap (tyomka@lianet.ru)! And yet, if you can find information about it, how much I was looking for is not what I didn't find sensible! Thank you in advance! A photo of the caterpillar is not necessary, the one that I edited in Paint is a COPY!!! I apologize for the quality of photos!

This post was edited by Tyomochin - 30.07.2006 10: 18

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31.07.2006 19:32, Pavel Morozov

in the first photo it looks more like a bedstraw hawk moth Hyles gallii
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31.07.2006 20:39, Tyomochkin

Огроооооооооооооомнейшоооооооооооооооое thank you! It's him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found photos of the caterpillar!

This post was edited by Tyomochin - 31.07.2006 20: 40

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31.07.2006 21:07, Tyomochkin

And when does the bedstraw hawk moth caterpillar pupate? She spends the winter under the ground floor, right? What is this supposed to mean? in the ground or in the leaves?

06.08.2006 20:04, CTPAHHUK

help the worm ))
who is it? http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9581/dsc00188zj1.jpg
and what it eats )) and then picked up the animal, and there is nothing to feed )))
and most importantly-what will come out of it
Thank you in advance )

06.08.2006 20:16, Pavel Morozov

to STPAHHUK: caterpillar of the scented woodworm Cossus cossus. It develops in the wood of various deciduous trees, and feeds mainly on willows.
link: http://ukmoths.org.uk/show.php?bf=162

07.08.2006 14:13, Papont

So that a new topic does not start, that's whose such can be? 8 cm long. Shot on the Karelian Isthmus in a pine forest.

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07.08.2006 18:33, Pavel Morozov

similar to the oak cocoonworm (Lasiocampa quercus)

08.08.2006 10:33, Guest

Then one question: can an oak cocoonworm be found in the taiga, even if it is southern?

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