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Identification of larvae and pupae

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08.08.2023 8:39, ИНО

The correct wish - without a superhuman dose of luck, it is unlikely to be possible to determine without a photo. I can only say that the dark line that pulsates on the back is the heart, and the "tiny white eyes" are spiracles.

Perhaps it doesn't eat because it has already eaten enough and is about to pupate (that's why it "fell"from the tree).

28.08.2023 23:52, TanaWWW

For some reason, it doesn't load photos, but I really need some advice!
A mottled bear caterpillar was found. I found info that the pupa spends the winter in a cocoon. Can you tell me where she makes the cocoon? In the ground or wrapped in a leaf?
The caterpillar is now somehow sedentary, does not eat much.
(Kaliningrad, August 27)

29.08.2023 12:03, ярослав

For some reason, it doesn't load photos, but I really need some advice!
A mottled bear caterpillar was found. I found info that the pupa spends the winter in a cocoon. Can you tell me where she makes the cocoon? In the ground or wrapped in a leaf?
The caterpillar is now somehow sedentary, does not eat much.
(Kaliningrad, August 27)

In Wikipedia, they write pupation in bears occurs on the ground in the forest floor in a light cocoon, but specifically in this species I did not find it.

29.08.2023 13:50, ИНО

Whose caterpillar can there be now in Donetsk Spiraea media bush? I found a pile of impressive-sized excrement under it (it would have been suitable for a pear-shaped saturia, but they have been cocooned for a long time). I didn't find the caterpillar during the day. I'm wondering if I should go there at night.

30.08.2023 7:18, ярослав

Whose caterpillar can there be now in Donetsk Spiraea media bush? I found a pile of impressive-sized excrement under it (it would have been suitable for a pear-shaped saturia, but they have been cocooned for a long time). I didn't find the caterpillar during the day. I'm wondering if I should go there at night.

Hawthorn probably.

30.08.2023 12:43, гук

Hawthorn probably.

Hawthorn has been sleeping in its nests for a long time.

30.08.2023 13:59, ярослав

Hawthorn has been sleeping in its nests for a long time.

Well, someone omnivorous, maybe a golden tail.

30.08.2023 16:10, ИНО

I saw a hawthorn tree once in my childhood - consider that we have one completely missing. And even if I did, I wouldn't have given out such katyakhs. The latter is also true for the golden tail. I repeat, the size of the excrement is similar to that of Saturnia Peary. In my opinion, such a hefty anus in our area, in addition to Saturnia, can only be found in the largest hawkmoth. Well, maybe Cossus cossus, but the one in the tree poops.

01.09.2023 10:03, MiLLeNium Niobius

I repeat, the size of the excrement is similar to that of Saturnia Peary

I would climb all over the bush, it's terribly interesting smile.gifto walk through the surrounding vegetation, too. I remember when I was a child they used to drive me out of the forest with nettles while I was examining some goat willow, so there was some huge hawk moth feeding there, a goose that is. Be sure to write it if you find it as a bug) But once the excrement is large, it could leave to pupate already..

01.09.2023 10:21, ИНО

So I climbed, but I didn't see a damn thing, even after gnawing on the leaves. But the bush is very thick. It had rained recently, and the old poop should have been washed off the sidewalk, so it was fresh. But over the past few days since their discovery, c could have pupated.

So no one knows about a large moth whose caterpillars eat spiraea?

01.09.2023 11:56, Alexandr Rusinov

So I climbed, but I didn't see a damn thing, even after gnawing on the leaves. But the bush is very thick. It had rained recently, and the old poop should have been washed off the sidewalk, so it was fresh. But over the past few days since their discovery, c could have pupated.

So no one knows about a large moth whose caterpillars eat spiraea?

Lilac hawk moth maybe. Like spirea is specified as kormovoe
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01.10.2023 16:34, TanaWWW

Good day! We need expert help to clarify this.
In early September, a cocoon like cotton wool was found on nettles (Kaliningrad) - they decided that it was some kind of silkworm, and there was masonry inside. They took me home until spring .
BUT! on September 30, a fly came out of the cocoon - Inaturalist identified it as Mesochorinae.

Well, if it's a parasite, it needs a victim, doesn't it?
We went to the same place where the cocoon was found, and found a second one just like it. Opened - inside the same Mesochorinae.

Now the question is: what is the life cycle of this fly? Or did we come across infected silkworm clutches in this area? If so, what did Mesochorinae eat there? There should be eggs inside the cocoon, right?

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02.10.2023 11:12, ИНО

Whose idea is it that there should be eggs inside the cocoon? An arachnologist? Entomologists usually have very different ideas about this smile.gif

I believe it is a cocoon of the horsemen of the family Braconidae. Their larvae, after leaving the host's body, weave such loose cocoons of silk of a characteristic yellow color. In ichneumonids, cocoons are usually much denser and more compact, so to speak, for individual use. The " fly " that emerged from this cocoon (Mesochorinae) was obviously a hyperparasitoid, i.e. a parasitoid of the parasitoid. But other "flies" found in the cocoon could have been braconids( cocoon builders), they are similar. Although, it is possible that the hyperparasitoids ate them all.

If there is nothing left of the primary host that could be found inside the cocoon, then its remains were outside, this also happens. Most likely, the primary host was a caterpillar, but now we can only guess.

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03.10.2023 9:55, TanaWWW

Whose idea is it that there should be eggs inside the cocoon? An arachnologist? Entomologists usually have very different ideas about this smile.gif

I believe it is a cocoon of the horsemen of the family Braconidae. Their larvae, after leaving the host's body, weave such loose cocoons of silk of a characteristic yellow color. In ichneumonids, cocoons are usually much denser and more compact, so to speak, for individual use. The " fly " that emerged from this cocoon (Mesochorinae) was obviously a hyperparasitoid, i.e. a parasitoid of the parasitoid. But other "flies" found in the cocoon could have been braconids( cocoon builders), they are similar. Although, it is possible that the hyperparasitoids ate them all.

If there is nothing left of the primary host that could be found inside the cocoon, then its remains were outside, this also happens. Most likely, the primary host was a caterpillar, but now we can only guess.



Wow! Thank you very much!
Yes, inside the cocoon were someone's remains, but in the form of crumbs.

25.10.2023 20:35, ИНО

Dear guest, who are you? I am interested to indicate in the acknowledgements.



Looking for firefighters looking for police...
They've been searching for a long time and can't find it...

If they don't find it in the next couple of days, then the train, in the sense of the article, will leave without you! Three bourgeois people will get into the car and two of our own, but you won't. Hurry up to jump on the bandwagon!

09.11.2023 20:04, TanaWWW

Good day!
At home, they found such a creature, size 0.5 cm.
It sits quietly in the jar, although it was actively running around at the time of capture.
Who is it and what to do with it?

Thank you in advance!

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09.11.2023 22:59, Dmitry Vlasov

Good day!
At home, they found such a creature, size 0.5 cm.
It sits quietly in the jar, although it was actively running around at the time of capture.
Who is it and what to do with it?

Thank you in advance!

leatherworm larva

27.12.2023 8:32, ИНО

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December 11, Donetsk. It was wrapped in a thick cocoon of white silk woven inside the cell of a hornet's nest. Body length 12 mm

27.12.2023 17:23, Andrey Ponomarev

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December 11, Donetsk. It was wrapped in a thick cocoon of white silk woven inside the cell of a hornet's nest. Body length 12 mm.

Pupa Ethmia sp.
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14.03.2024 23:36, MiLLeNium Niobius

Tell me by type:
1. Large moth (64 mm!) on common wormwood (chernobylnik). August, Tula region, meadow near the railway.
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2. Dipper Phragmatobia fuliginosa? Tula region, under the apple tree.
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20.05.2024 10:29, gokenin

Tell me, pliz!
A hawk-moth elephant caterpillar? It's not my photo.
Yarenga. Karelia August approximately
Thank you
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20.05.2024 17:48, ИНО

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27.05.2024 19:48, MiLLeNium Niobius

This is the result of a search for a photo in yandex. camera, a campaign)

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