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Identification of dragonflies (Odonata)

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25.10.2010 21:53, Kharkovbut

There is too much black on the back of the head, the striolatum has more brown, I think. And the caudal segments of the abdomen from above - on the contrary, are too light (although this varies). Well, the probability, yes.
I examined herds of striolatums and vulgatums from the Kharkiv region... To be honest, there are no qualitative differences in the color of the back of the head. Tail segments-yes, on average, the vulgatum is lighter, but only on average. (IMHO, in addition to the genitals, there are two fairly stable signs: the forehead and chest from the side, although there are deviations here.)

So for a combination of reasons, the picture is, of course, vulgatum, but just in case I'll leave a question mark. smile.gif
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26.10.2010 17:20, Елена М

And on the side of the chest, what to look at?
And by the way, S. meridionale, how do you distinguish it from these two?

27.10.2010 0:13, Kharkovbut

On the side of the chest:

at the meridian, dark stripes along the seams are hardly noticeable, the chest looks monotonous;

in the vulgatum and striolatum, the stripes along the sutures are clearly visible;

in the vulgatum, the breast is monotonous (with the exception of prominent sutures), and in the striolatum it is characteristically bicolored - the extreme lobes are greenish-yellowish, the middle one is reddish.

These signs work best for adult males, almost 100% of the time. For females, it works worse: there are (adult) females of striolatum, in which the bicolor of the breast is almost invisible. For young females of striolatum / vulgatum, this sign is not applicable at all. (I.e., I will not dare to determine the females for sure if the genital plate is not visible. smile.gif)

The meridionale differs quite well from the striolatum / vulgatum in that it is generally much lighter (both males and females), in males the abdomen has almost no dark markings (in the striolatum/vulgatum they are always clearly visible); the legs of the meridionale are also much lighter. Adult males of the meridional range are uniformly red, including the forehead and lower part of the eyes; this is rare in vulgatum and almost never in striolatum.

Another funny thing is that it is the meridionale that is very susceptible to parasitic ticks - there are on every 3rd-4th specimen; on the vulgatum they were observed once in several years of observation; on the striolatum they were never caught.

I enclose photos of typical adult specimens.

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27.10.2010 0:17, Kharkovbut

Uuu... the forum has reduced my image beyond recognition... weep.gif I'll put them out one by one... wink.gif

S. striolatum

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картинка: Sympetrum_striolatum_m__9_11_10__Kh__MalVolchya__Vol._.JPG
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картинка: Sympetrum_striolatum_fm__9_25_10__Kh__NizhBishkin__Zm._.JPG
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27.10.2010 0:20, Kharkovbut

S. vulgatum

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картинка: Sympetrum_vulgatum_fm__9_07_09__Kh__Pyatikhatki.JPG
Sympetrum_vulgatum_fm__9_07_09__Kh__Pyatikhatki.JPG — (87.71к)

27.10.2010 0:21, Kharkovbut

S. meridionale

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картинка: Sympetrum_meridionale_m__8_26_10__Kh__Petrovskoe__Krasn._.JPG
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картинка: Sympetrum_meridionale_fm__8_19_10__Kh__Udyanskaya.JPG
Sympetrum_meridionale_fm__8_19_10__Kh__Udyanskaya.JPG — (88.36к)

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30.10.2010 16:39, Елена М

Thanks! Just wonderful. I have never seen meridionale alive, and vulgatum and striolatum are represented by other subspecies. I've seen a lot of typical vulgatum in nature-in Europe and Siberia, but with striolatum it's much worse-mostly photos or dry material.

30.10.2010 17:52, Kharkovbut

vulgatum and striolatum are represented by other subspecies
Yes, I would never attribute imitoides to striolatum by external signs, it doesn't look much like a nominative. smile.gif And imitans is such a vulgatum. smile.gif

30.10.2010 17:54, Kharkovbut

Also by the way: IMHO, striolatum and meridionale expand the range to the north. So it's time to see if they have appeared somewhere in the middle zone of European Russia. smile.gif

31.10.2010 7:03, Елена М

Yeah. Vaughn in the Urals fonskolombii has already taken root, it seems. So two subspecies of striolatum will meet again somewhere in Siberia. smile.gif

05.05.2011 18:54, phlomis

The coast of the Tsimlyansk vdhr. shuffle.gif
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05.05.2011 19:05, Kharkovbut

The coast of the Tsimlyansk vdhr. shuffle.gif
Lestes barbarus female.
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17.05.2011 10:27, Andrey Ponomarev

M. O. Poplar 14.05.2011 on a red currant bush.
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17.05.2011 15:58, Kharkovbut

M. O. Poplar 14.05.2011 on a red currant bush.
Libellula quadrimaculata
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19.05.2011 10:21, BO.

Can you tell me if it is possible to identify a dragonfly by its larva, at least approximately?
Astrakhan .17may.

The post was edited by BO. - 19.05.2011 10:22

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19.05.2011 21:04, Bad Den

Can you tell me if it is possible to identify a dragonfly by its larva, at least approximately?
Astrakhan .17may.

This is the larva of a floating beetle smile.gif
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20.05.2011 6:38, BO.

This is the larva of a floating beetle smile.gif

Thanks!
There are several color variations. One of these days I will shoot and show you.

The post was edited by BO. - 20.05.2011 06:41

22.05.2011 21:28, serkiz oleg

Help me identify the male Large Red Damselfly Pyrrhosoma nymphula male? Chernivtsi, Ukraine.
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DSC_00126 copy — Photos of the user serkiz_oleg on Rambler-Photo

This post was edited by serkiz oleg - 05/23/2011 02: 11

23.05.2011 0:50, Kharkovbut

Help me identify the male Large Red Damselfly Pyrrhosoma nymphula male? Chernivtsi, Ukraine.
You can't see the photo. "The photo is only available to the author." Post a photo here - I will determine.

23.05.2011 1:48, serkiz oleg

I hope now it is visible both there and there.
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DSC_00126 copy — Photos of the user serkiz_oleg on Rambler-Photo

This post was edited by serkiz oleg - 05/23/2011 02: 12

23.05.2011 16:57, Kharkovbut

Pyrrhosoma nymphula male? Chernivtsi, Ukraine.
Yes, it is.
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03.06.2011 23:42, DerRock

Hello. Please tell me about the dragonfly. Taken on June 2 in the Moscow region.
I assume a female Coenagrion puella, but with arrows I'm never sure frown.gif

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04.06.2011 0:02, Kharkovbut

Hello. Please tell me about the dragonfly. Taken on June 2 in the Moscow region.
Coenagrion pulchellum, female.
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04.06.2011 0:05, Kharkovbut

DerRock: if it's not a secret, is the shot in natural conditions, or staged?

04.06.2011 11:25, DerRock

Kharkovbut, thank you very much for the definition.
I shoot only in natural conditions. On Monday, you can view the picture here: http://www.photosight.ru/users/192025/ The photo will be just not this one, although it is from the same series.
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04.06.2011 19:40, Kharkovbut

DerRock: Great photos!!! By the way, "parallel lines" are also Coenagrion pulchellum.
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04.06.2011 20:29, DerRock

  DerRock: Great photos!!! By the way, "parallel lines" are also Coenagrion pulchellum.

)))))))))))))) Well, I always get confused with dragonflies. Thank you so much.

P.S. And you know, I remembered that there was even a small discussion about it here: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=170973&st=300 With your participation smile.gif

This post was edited by DerRock - 04.06.2011 20: 34

04.06.2011 21:35, Kharkovbut

P.S. And you know, I remembered that there was even a small discussion about it here: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=170973&st=300 With your participation smile.gif
Funny, I'd already forgotten. smile.gif My opinion a year ago is absurd, since then I seem to have grown a lot as an odonatologist. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif Elena's opinion is very authoritative; indeed, the shape of the pronotum in profile does not seem to be the same as when viewed from above, which, unfortunately, is not very sharp. But the pattern on the 8th segment, IMHO, is typical for pulchellum, at least in the Kharkiv region as one of the color options (this species is very variable). In general, as a result, I do not dare to identify this dragonfly from the available images. smile.gif

04.06.2011 21:49, Kharkovbut

PS: The male pulchellum was found in your photos (the male of this species is certainly not confused with puella, so pulchellum is guaranteed to live in your filming locations smile.gif): http://www.photosight.ru/photos/2696181/?from_member
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13.06.2011 8:24, msshveikin

user posted image
Tell me, what kind of dragonfly?
Russia, Chelyabinsk region, Kyshtym city district, Kyshtym city, near the river

This post was edited by msshveikin - 13.06.2011 08: 25

13.06.2011 14:05, Kharkovbut

Tell me, what kind of dragonfly?
Russia, Chelyabinsk region, Kyshtym city district, Kyshtym city, near the river
Coenagrion puella male.
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28.06.2011 12:38, Svetlana1973

Arkhangelsk region. north. June 18, 26.
1. Pretty woman - what?
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28.06.2011 14:44, Kharkovbut

Arkhangelsk region. north. June 18, 26.
1: Calopteryx virgo, male.
2: Erythromma najas, young male.
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08.07.2011 20:10, С Олег

Please identify the dragonfly

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09.07.2011 0:05, Kharkovbut

Please identify the dragonfly
It turns out that this is Erythromma viridulum, a very fresh female. When and where was the photo taken? Is it possible (for greater clarity) to see the 2nd image in a higher resolution (interested in pronotum)?

09.07.2011 5:59, С Олег

Here, I've enlarged it.

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09.07.2011 15:13, С Олег

The pictures were taken on 17.06.2011. Tatarstan. Naberezhnye Chelny

09.07.2011 18:35, Komar

Is it pretty-girl or pretty-shiny or something?. (Chernihiv region, Ukraine)
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09.07.2011 19:00, Kharkovbut

S Oleg: after all, this is Erythromma najas. Without sensationalism. smile.gif

09.07.2011 19:01, Kharkovbut

Is it pretty-girl or pretty-shiny or something?. (Chernihiv region, Ukraine)
Calopteryx splendens male.
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