Spreading insects

Izolon I can't imagine how you can spread someone on it ? It was not easier to make just a fake rasprovilku without any overlays In the people are worried....

people advise... how long does it cost to keep a butterfly on a straightener ???

what kind of butterfly, at what temperature and humidity?

room temperature, humidity well, I do not know... and razier is clearly different .... logically, the less than the butterfly, so I understand and withstand less.... but still ???

There are 13 straighteners with dried day butterflies accumulated, but there is not enough time to remove the material (about 200 copies), pin up the labels and transfer them to a temporary storage box without sorting (until future splitting into main boxes). Who can help you remove butterflies from the straighteners? write down how much money you will charge for the work. it is advisable to remove everything in 1 time. details in the personal account.

room temperature, humidity well, I do not know... and razier is clearly different .... logically, the less than the butterfly, so I understand and withstand less.... but still ???

usually 3-4 weeks.

I made myself styrofoam ones and now I remember the pieces of wood like a bad dream.

I made myself styrofoam ones and now I remember the pieces of wood like a bad dream.

I recommend to try balsa. after that, the foam will be like a bad dream))

How to properly handle dried butterflies? What are the methods? What is the best way to soak so as not to damage the material? What is the easiest and most convenient way? Thank you in advance!

How to properly handle dried butterflies? What are the methods? What is the best way to soak so as not to damage the material? What is the easiest and most convenient way?   Thank you in advance!

In a desiccator (hermetically sealed vessel): do not use wet sand or cotton wool, on top of this case blotting paper, filter paper or just toilet paper on which you put dry material. Go for it. And literature will help you: http://www.torrentino.com/torrents/368376 Many people have studied in this book and there all the points are described perfectly
P.S. Or you can read the topic next door and ask such questions in it: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=133057

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 15.07.2015 23: 02

I recommend to try balsa. after that, the foam will be like a bad dream))

I've already tried everything. And linden and balsa-nothing compares with a good foam. The wings seem to stick to it, you don't need to constantly tighten them, you don't need to press down with tapes with effort, just fix them. This is especially true for steamed material.

I've already tried everything. And linden and balsa-nothing compares with a good foam. The wings seem to stick to it, you don't need to constantly tighten them, you don't need to press down with tapes with effort, just fix them. This is especially true for steamed material.

Please specify what kind of foam. Maybe it has a designation or brand?

I am also interested in the "tactics" of collecting material. I'll explain. If you've killed a copy, did you pin it in a straightened form or without straightening it, or did you put it in a bag and then soak it?.. Or different butterflies in different ways?.. =)

  
I am also interested in the "tactics" of collecting material. I'll explain. If you've killed a copy, did you pin it in a straightened form or without straightening it, or did you put it in a bag and then soak it?.. Or different butterflies in different ways?..=)

There are many ways and methods of collecting data, and they all differ from the Collection Conditions:
Where, for how long, what volume, what groups and families. Specify.

I am also interested in the "tactics" of collecting material. I'll explain. If you've killed a copy, did you pin it in a straightened form or without straightening it, or did you put it in a bag and then soak it?.. Or different butterflies in different ways?..=)

IMHO, this is something that each importer decides for itself, based on its goals and capabilities.

Hello! Tell me what to do so that the butterfly's belly does not dry out. I look at other people's collections, all the butterflies have normal bellies left, not dried out. When I collected the collection at the university, everything remained in its original form. And now everyone has "strings" instead of a belly. How can you avoid shrinking the abdomen of a butterfly?

Hello! Tell me what to do so that the butterfly's belly does not dry out. I look at other people's collections, all the butterflies have normal bellies left, not dried out. When I collected the collection at the university, everything remained in its original form. And now everyone has "strings" instead of a belly. How can you avoid shrinking the abdomen of a butterfly?

Have you noticed this in any particular families of lepidoptera? And how many such instances, if not a secret?
In most scoops, the abdomen never shrinks to a thread.
And I've never heard of such a problem before.

Have you noticed this in any particular families of lepidoptera? And how many such instances, if not a secret?
In most scoops, the abdomen never shrinks to a thread.
And I've never heard of such a problem before.

vafdog, shrunken bellies in males from the family. belyanok. Disaster at the C-beloe anglewort. I already remembered that when I was injected with alcohol, I got into the abdomen, so it shrank very much. I thought that, for example, when making museum collections of tropical butterflies, they fill their bellies with paraffin, because in these collections the bellies of butterflies do not dry out. I thought that some of the participants on the forum had heard or knew about these technologies. But, anyway, thanks for reply

vafdog, shrunken bellies in males from the family. belyanok. Disaster at the C-beloe anglewort. I already remembered that when I was injected with alcohol, I got into the abdomen, so it shrank very much. I thought that, for example, when making museum collections of tropical butterflies, they fill their bellies with paraffin, because in these collections the bellies of butterflies do not dry out. I thought that some of the participants on the forum had heard or knew about these technologies. But, anyway, thanks for the answer

Our whiteflies already have thin bellies, and even more so in males. And this is normal, I do not think that a catastrophe, the main thing is that the abdomen would not distract from the beauty of the wings.
Such drying is possible if the butterfly is dried very quickly, or the air is very dry.
And be sure to fix the abdomen with pins, so that when drying it does not lead it to the sides.

And I have not heard about filling the butterfly's belly with anything, our thick hawkmoth dries normally, preserving the thickness of the abdomen. The main thing is not to cut out the interior = do not injure the chitinous skeleton.

Good luck.

Please specify what kind of foam. Maybe it has a designation or brand?

I am also interested in the "tactics" of collecting material. I'll explain. If you've killed a copy, did you pin it in a straightened form or without straightening it, or did you put it in a bag and then soak it?.. Or different butterflies in different ways?..=)

For the dies, I use panels for the ceiling. The foam on them is thin, rough, with a smooth surface. For the basis, of course, anyone is suitable, as long as the pin climbs.

Ideally, the tactics of collecting: caught, killed, spread. In this case, the best copies are obtained. The second option-caught, zamoril, impaled on a stainless steel pin, then steamed and straightened. It is best suited for scoops and scoops with piles on the pronotum, which you want to save. In other cases, I caught it, froze it, folded the wings and left it in a soft paper bag until it dried, then put it on a cotton mattress. The problem is that in fat butterflies, in this case, the belly of the pet is flattened from the sides. Microbes should either be immediately straightened out, or at least pricked, because it is risky to raise them from cotton wool.

Question-and how to properly mount female German oss-on a die, like a bug, or prick, like just a wasp???

personally, I mount on the die like beetles, but there is one BUT! in some species, the pygidial field is important to determine, pm should be stretched out as much as possible belly

Traditionally, more or less large hymenoptera are pricked in the mid-back, I see no reason to prevent doing the same with mutilids.

What kind of view is this? My 00 took all of them perfectly, even relatively large ones. With some effort, though. Megascole maculate is also quite a tough nut to crack, but no one goes to the dies on this occasion.

How to spread butterflies so as not to pierce the wings at the base? That's how much I don't hook the wings with a pin for the main vein - usually it doesn't work without punctures.

If you know how, it should work )

How to spread butterflies so as not to pierce the wings at the base? That's how much I don't hook the wings with a pin for the main vein - usually it doesn't work without punctures.

I straighten it out with a blunted sewing pin. The wings are not punctured, but sometimes a few scales are erased. With the rear wings, this is not a problem, since the place at the vein that the pin touches is hidden under the front wing, but on the front it can be noticeable.

How to spread butterflies so as not to pierce the wings at the base? That's how much I don't hook the wings with a pin for the main vein - usually it doesn't work without punctures.

Neither how, but with what TWEEZERS!

Neither how, but with what TWEEZERS!

Sharp tweezers?

Sharp tweezers?

I'm a bit of a bugger, but I'm also good at spreading butterflies.
The tweezers are sharp without notches and preferably curved and of course softer. But as in any business you need skills and practice, the first time everything will not always work out perfectly.
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Normal straightening?Are the wings not too much raised to the top?

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spread out on the top three. on the example of belyanok look at the difference

Normal straightening?Are the wings not too much raised to the top?

alas, very much. it hurts my eyes, Garlic.
but the series is cool

what is in beetles, what is in butterflies there are general rules and regulations, BUT... there are many groups that have very important defining features that are not visible or poorly accessible in the classical spread. in such cases, there are 2 options:: 1-if one copy is collected, then it is edited not according to the classics, but so that it is convenient to determine it; 2-a series is collected-one is edited for convenience, the rest for beauty. the question is more about goals, either this is pure aesthetics, or this is a scientific collection where bellies are torn off and pussy is cooked, but even this can be beautifully put
ps what about the above yolks. the wings are strongly retracted, but in some species the androconial spot at the base of the hindwings is important, although it can be seen without lifting the wings so much.

This post was edited by AGG - 11.10.2015 18: 33

but in some species, the androconial spot at the base of the hindwings is important, although it can be seen without lifting the wings so much.

That's why I left out the lower wings to focus on the place where there is (or not) it's a stain!

to be more precise, you did not lower the rear ones, but raised the upper ones from the classic perpendicular

Flipping through old magazines, I came across an article about the original technique of mounting insects. I hasten to share the news of a hundred years ago.

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there have always been enough perverts it's just that now they are being talked about a lot on TV

I'm very interested in this...
Do butterflies dry faster on wooden straighteners than on foam ones? And covered with strips of tracing paper, rather than polyethylene.

If someone has tried both cases (or even different combinations) and noticed this, please write.

Maybe different straighteners affect not only the drying time, it is also interesting to learn about it