How to save traps from people

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rpanin, 17.05.2007 17:32

The topic isn't funny at all. Especially when you arrive 300 km away, and 90 % of the traps are "bombed" . Despite the fact that they would not be camouflaged. (Then you barely find them yourself) Not only are the lids knocked down ,but the contents are also pulled out and poured out.(what if there's gold?) Naturally, the entomaterial disappears. It's a shame, damn it! How to escape from the ubiquitous retired mushroom pickers?
This season, I wrote all sorts of threatening information on the covers with a CD marker: "Acid!", "poison", "high voltage" Let's see how effective it will be.
Well, I would like to share my thoughts with my entomology colleagues -who is fighting these misfortunes and how?

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17.05.2007 20:35, rpanin

and if you write a text that there is nothing valuable/edible there, this is for the study of so - and-so, please do not take it away, and in a transparent plastic bag (so that it does not get wet, but it is readable), and attach it next to the ground??? - - - - or am I too naive ????

Rooks,wild boars-it's a shame, but not to tears. And here are the people...

I believe that there is nothing to count on consciousness. Even more interesting to look at what is there will cause such an inscription. Here you need to invent something frighteningly warning.
But the wire next to it is an idea!!!Plus the inscription "HIGH VOLTAGE-ACID".I don't think you'll even want to touch it with your feet, let alone with your paks.

This post was edited by rpanin - 17.05.2007 23: 42

17.05.2007 22:37, Aleksandr Safronov

In the Volgograd region, cups were regularly carried by local foxes. And they didn't just pull them out of the ground and rummage through them, but dragged them away with the ends! It's a shame, but you can't escape it. I agree that it's even more insulting when these cups are pulled by people. Stupid, idle curiosity of individual individuals of the human race leads to an empty waste of sometimes great efforts. I think that there is no universal remedy for this. Signs like "do not climb, otherwise you are a corpse" will not only not save you, but will also cause even more interest and excitement of these representatives. The threat of "electric shock" can be easily overcome with a stick. Traps, IMHO, should be dug in places invisible from the trails and masked with stones, branches, etc., depending on the biotope.

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18.05.2007 16:01, rpanin

Something you, Ripper, very much amused in this topic.
Apparently traps aren't your song ...

That's right, I told you that the topic is not funny at all.
Nothing, disappointments in life are still waiting for him in the front!

Entalex.
It is clear that it is necessary to mask traps . In the forest, you can still do something, but in the field...

Believe me, I've tried everything. but there is no escape from the ubiquitous "people".
And so with a threatening text, I think the percentage of damage can be reduced. Or, so that the cups are not pulled out of the ground. To hell with it with a broken lid , but the material will be more or less safe if you write that there is acid...
Well, let's look at the results at the end of the season.

This post was edited by rpanin - 18.05.2007 16: 18

18.05.2007 19:53, Aleksandr Safronov

That's right, I told you that the topic is not funny at all. It is clear that it is necessary to mask traps . In the forest, you can still do something, but in the field... Believe me, I've tried everything. but there is no escape from the ubiquitous "people". And so with a threatening text, I think the percentage of damage can be reduced. Or, so that the cups are not pulled out of the ground. To hell with it with a broken lid , but the material will be more or less safe if you write that there is acid...
Well, let's look at the results at the end of the season.

Dear rpanin, I think that the percentage of broken traps is proportional to the number of people present in the area (not counting curious animals). And, most likely, this should be taken philosophically. So, probably, we should set more traps, adjusted for this loss. Warning instructions (current, acid, bomb, infection, etc.) can lead to such a possible result - some law-abiding citizen will not touch the trap, but simply call the Ministry of Emergency Situations or the police. Imagine, you come with the mood to evaluate the catch, and there is an ambush

You put your muzzle in the ground, and then you are in the "monkey house" for a long and tedious excuse.

18.05.2007 20:17, Aleksey Adamov

Dear rpanin, I think that the percentage of broken traps is proportional to the number of people present in the area (not counting curious animals). And, most likely, this should be taken philosophically. So, probably, we should set more traps, adjusted for this loss. Warning instructions (current, acid, bomb, infection, etc.) can lead to such a possible result - some law-abiding citizen will not touch the trap, but simply call the Ministry of Emergency Situations or the police. Imagine, you come with the mood to evaluate the catch, and there is an ambush You put your muzzle in the ground, and then you are in the "monkey house" for a long and tedious excuse.

The fact that there is a direct connection with the "population" (popularity) of the area is for sure. I tried to put cups in the parks of Rostov-on-Don-100% failure and only on the very edge of the city there were traps (there was very high grass).
How can increasing the number of traps help? The calculation that the "yankee" steamed up to pull the cups?

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19.05.2007 14:32, Dinusik

Yes, traps can do all sorts of things. I also had mushroom pickers pulled out of the ground, and then thrown out nearby, and the cattle trampled. But the worst thing was last year, when four times the traps burned down along with the coniferous forest. Moreover, the traps are a pity less than the forest itself. I no longer know how to explain to summer residents that last year's grass should be removed and not burned... Now you drive past burnt Christmas trees, your heart bleeds.
Traps, of course, are best placed in places that are little visited and not attractive to tourists. I don't know, though, if I'll be able to catch anything in the coastal biotopes this season. It is difficult to find a reservoir here that is not a place of rest, especially in the middle of summer, when the temperature exceeds +30. I'll have to disguise it better.

22.05.2007 19:12, Aleksandr Ermakov

I read it and got a question: what was it that was poured into the traps that foxes dragged them? Beer? I have, for example, such a retainer that God forbid any animal to put a sensitive nose there... I suspect that quadrupeds are still attracted to rodents and other food that has fallen into the glasses. But with these "friends" it is really difficult to cope. No grilles, no funnels do not help, if the system works, then against insects too...
As for the two-legged "orderlies of the forest": I managed to catch them productively even on city lawns: I chose more terrible vegetation (nettle. thistle, rosehip) and put cans. Masked in prominent places: two stones and a piece of slate on top, the beetles only get bigger.
Yes, that there are cups, sometimes you have to leave the traps of Malaise and pah-pah...

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24.05.2007 16:10, rpanin

And you, what - traps in the open put? Or do the aborigines have nothing to do/want beer to such an extent that they search all the bushes on all fours/sniff for beer?

It all depends on the biotope. In the forest, you can't hide anything from the sharp eyes of mushroom pickers (the mushroom picker himself). Starting from the middle of summer, our forests are being combed completely. Unless somewhere in the Carpathian Mountains in the middle of nowhere, you can safely set traps.
In the small preserved steppe areas, the trap is like a dolon. Especially in the spring ,when the rare low-growing xerothermic grass is just beginning to break through. Try to hide a trap here! Omnipresent children, shepherds alike will see .
In the mountains of the Carpathians, in the alpine zone, the same difficulties . There are always a lot of tourists near the peaks. Here even stone camouflage does not help.

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