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The season of hunting for butterflies in the Moscow region has begun

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02.03.2008 22:30, Pavel Morozov

Damn, this should all be moved either to the Fishing Reports, or in Particular fishing in the light.

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02.03.2008 22:33, Sergey Didenko

After the reverse replacement of 700 by 400, the previous results returned - except for the already presented scoops of one type, there is nothing new, even for the previous years of the earliest scoops - militant (transversa) and then there is no. And without alcohol in a weak summer, it's really boring. Besides, is privo really alcohol? According to forecasts of meteorologists for the next week nothing shines... Wait again.
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03.03.2008 0:19, americanecz

I keep ATTACKING Morozzz!!!
It depends on how you treat...
If you are really "smeared"... Thats really not worth it...
For example, I always sit until the last minute... I drank, I didn't drink... It doesn't affect the case...
And about the beer... It's not manly at all...
I ran into the bushes... I missed the moment when there was a LIGHT on the border/The SHADOW of the villages of Endrmis Versicolora for example... And then you'll find figs...
My opinion is this! It is better to drink less often! But more expensive!
So I usually take a whiskey and Coke with me...
Well, if after work... Here 0.5 energy pts. helps (well, or double espresso, if possible)...
My choice is Bern... Do not consider it an advertisement...

03.03.2008 1:34, mems

And in our forest they are already flying in droves.
I caught one with my hands,
though I accidentally tore her head offsmile.gif
I won't throw off the photo of the corpse...

03.03.2008 7:43, Sergey Didenko

In what forest? What crowds? Can I elaborate on that? About Bern-last summer I went to Karelia for fishing, on the way back I struggled with sleep at the wheel of a car with the help of energy drinks, so Bern did not work at all, but the Adrenaline rush was clear: small. jar 2.5 hours quiet drive. Although all these energy drinks are terribly harmful stuff, which is better to completely abandon.

03.03.2008 8:40, RippeR

In 2006, when I caught the light, while there was nothing, I collected everything I needed, sat on a stool in front of the screen and read smile.gif
If you drink, then butterflies like cockroaches will run away to the sides smile.gif

And in general, when the drl is such a light that you can write, draw, straighten smile.gif
And when at home-hung up the canvas-collected all the interesting things, went to molbiole sat, then collected everything again, etc. smile.gif

03.03.2008 11:23, mems

Energetics of g ... eit - tested, the most important thing is the inner attitude.
Although this is the hardest part, it is much safer and more effective smile.gif

Kitskansky forest, near Bessarabia.
Photos of beetles and larvae I threw in the definition.

A photo of a butterfly, I'll try....smile.gif
... not an a-bolt, apparently the ants ate it out at night.

So according to the description, the wingspan is 3 cm, the upper wings are gray, the lower ones are orange. The butterfly is probably daytime because the body is thin.

This post was edited by mems - 03.03.2008 11: 29

03.03.2008 11:27, Sergey Didenko

It is often impossible to write, draw, or read. Especially in early spring and late autumn, when it often rains. In the summer, too, problems in the form of crowds of mosquitoes. And so that the butterflies began to run away like cockroaches, so how much do you need to drink? In general, in a good company with a good snack, you can both communicate and catch interesting things. And if you focus only on one catch, especially since in 10 years of fishing, at most 10-20 new species arrive per year, you can lose interest in the process. In general, I am for the combination of pleasant with pleasant.

03.03.2008 11:32, mems

to RippeR

so you hung it right in your room?

I have found three DRL but 450 Watts
A friend has 120 Watts - is it not enough?

03.03.2008 18:58, RippeR

in principle, not too little. And if there are 3 lamps, then this is generally excellent! It is better to turn them on in turn, as advised earlier-half an hour 450 W, half an hour 120 W and so on all night, like the catch should be excellent!!!

Hung not in the room, but on the balcony, inside, for the wire for belya

03.03.2008 22:09, okoem

  
So according to the description, the wingspan is 3 cm, the upper wings are gray, the lower ones are orange. The butterfly is probably daytime because the body is thin.

Not like this by any chance -
http://images.google.com/images?q=Archiear...F-8&sa=N&tab=wi

04.03.2008 17:32, mems

to RipepeR: it remains only to find the chokes and you can go hunting.
In addition to two there are 250 smile.gif

to okoem: very similar!

Today I found a fat Ussuri woodpecker in the park, which was blatantly eating a small tree. I approached and noticed under the bark a lot of small holes from which white caterpillars were climbing out. They ate away at the subcortex, leaving characteristic furrows. Is this by any chance a cossus? Sorry I can't send you a photo.

And half an hour later, another, no less fat woodpecker, dragged a massive beetle out from under the stump and devoured it in front of my eyes !!!

This post was edited by mems-03/04/2008 17: 46

04.03.2008 19:16, Guest

That's what woodpecker needed ... and select the beetle. Yes, it is good in warm countries! we have cold and snow again, only in a week they promise acceptable weather. If they do not deceive us, spring girls can also fly and set a record for the earliest summer!

05.03.2008 0:16, mems

That's what woodpecker needed ... and select a bug


Yeah, grab your throat with your hands smile.gif

05.03.2008 7:53, Sergey Didenko

Or use a net to catch a woodpecker together with a beetle, and then somehow extract the beetle. smile.gif

05.03.2008 12:00, Victor Titov

Today I found a fat Ussuri woodpecker in the park, which was blatantly eating a small tree. I approached and noticed under the bark a lot of small holes from which white caterpillars were climbing out. They ate away at the subcortex, leaving characteristic furrows. Is this by any chance a cossus? Sorry I can't send you a photo.

This is 99.999% not cossus, but larvae of beetles, most likely-barbels.

05.03.2008 14:15, americanecz

Even 100%...
After the roe, there are no grooves... there will be trenches there...

05.03.2008 14:28, Guest

I have in the neighborhood a couple of years ago got a black woodpecker - yellow, this is such a dolbo..., in general, the jackhammer is resting. And it is in the last two years that the woodworms have practically disappeared. Well, if the corrosive woodworm was already rare, it did not arrive every year, then the odorous woodworm flew to the lamp regularly, but now it does not. The coincidence is hard to believe.

05.03.2008 14:30, Sergey Didenko

Previous message from me, for some reason not logged in.

05.03.2008 15:35, Pavel Morozov

It is unlikely that the woodpecker destroyed them.

05.03.2008 16:41, mems

I once saw three Ussuri and two ordinary, jumping on the same tree.
A gang like that would blow the whole neighborhood apartsmile.gif

This is 99.999% not cossus, but larvae of beetles, most likely-barbels.


Does it make sense to collect them and bring them out?

05.03.2008 19:14, Victor Titov

Does it make sense to collect them and bring them out?

You can try to collect and bring to pupation and exit the imago. It is advisable when collecting larvae not to crumple, more delicately, in a word. Collect larvae of the last instars (in appearance - larger). Keep it in a container with wood dust of the tree (stump) where it was collected. But the chances of success (especially without experience) are not high: it is quite difficult to create the necessary conditions, including maintaining the required humidity. It is better to try to remove beetles from pupae found under the bark.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 05.03.2008 19: 15

05.03.2008 19:55, RippeR

if you bring out barbels, it is better with a piece of wood, in which they were found, and also collect twigs or dry herbs with holes and other signs.

05.03.2008 23:27, mems

Thanks!
the larvae are really very small 1.5 mm at
most I put the bark, turned on the musicsmile.gif

25.03.2008 14:47, Ilia Ustiantcev

It's a shame that the season started with a diary, but you can't run away from the facts: Today in Moscow (on Setuni) I saw lemongrass. Meanwhile, outside the window +15... what a night it will be!

25.03.2008 15:10, Dmitry Vlasov

And a little to the north (in Yaroslavl) snow and rain, porridge on the ground...

25.03.2008 15:33, omar

Yes, do not worry, we have tomorrow again +3 only

26.03.2008 11:16, Sergey Didenko

If only last night to catch in the country... By the way, I was going to give up on the dacha for the night, but the flu mowed me down for the second time in the spring (which is not surprising with my work). As a result, polubolnoy caught in Moscow. Nothing interesting has arrived - moth birds on foot (by the way, can anyone explain why females of this species do not fly to the light, I only caught one in 10 years), a scoop (I won't tell you the name from memory, I write from work), a scoop (it's clear what kind), a bunch of identical microlepidopters, well, gold-eyes flew if who is interested, I can post photos of everything I saw tomorrow.

26.03.2008 11:32, RippeR

we have the second day +3.. no better smile.gif

26.03.2008 14:05, okoem

As a result, polubolnoy caught in Moscow. Nothing interesting has arrived - the moths are on foot (by the way, can anyone explain why females of this species do not fly to the light, I only caught one in 10 years),

And I'm sorry, what is a" footstool"? Maybe that's why they don't arrive because they're on foot wink.gif
I apologize for the offtop - getting the flu is an unacceptable luxury. smile.gif A couple of Amizon tablets or a vaccination can radically solve the problem.

26.03.2008 14:46, Sergey Didenko

I don't remember which determinant I took the name peschaya from.I liked it so much that I remember it well. And so-Apocheima pilosaria. By the way, when I was fishing at the dacha, but the snow hasn't come down yet (in previous years) they flew and fell on the snow about 30 meters from the lamp and gradually crept up to the lamp. Maybe that's where the namesmile.gifcomes from. By the way, I did not find their females at all (I made a mistake in the previous message), and the one I mentioned is the female Lycia hirtaria, the only one caught for all the time, although there were 30-40 males per night.

26.03.2008 14:54, Pavel Morozov

to sdi: and where exactly did you catch it?

26.03.2008 15:03, svm2

to sdi-no wonder they didn't catch it - they don't fly, they're wingless because

26.03.2008 15:05, okoem

I don't remember which determinant I took the name peschaya from.I liked it so much that I remember it well. And so-Apocheima pilosaria.

Well, then it is not surprising that you have never been visited by females of this species. They are wingless.

26.03.2008 18:30, Sergey Didenko

Please read my previous post carefully, I already pointed out that I was mistaken and meant Lycia hirtaria females. And I didn't find any wingless females of Apocheima pilosaria, although I did find wingless female moth-strippers and winter ones quite often, crawling along tree trunks. As for the wingless ones, it is clear that there is no time to study trees carefully especially during the day, but why is there such an imbalance between males and females of Lycia hirtaria.

26.03.2008 18:34, Sergey Didenko

to sdi: and where exactly did you catch it?

Last night in the Kosino-Ukhtomsky MKR, and when we were crawling on foot - at the dacha in the O-Zuevsky district.

27.03.2008 12:42, Sergey Didenko

I post photos of yesterday's hunt. Experts will correct you about micra.

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 the image is no longer on the site: Apocheima_pilosaria_w1.JPG Apocheima_pilosaria_w1.JPG — (159.07к) 27.03.2008 — 10.04.2008
 the image is no longer on the site: Apocheima_pilosaria_w2.JPG Apocheima_pilosaria_w2.JPG — (273.62к) 27.03.2008 — 10.04.2008
 the image is no longer on the site: Lithophane_socia_w.JPG Lithophane_socia_w.JPG — (140.37к) 27.03.2008 — 10.04.2008
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27.03.2008 17:23, okoem

and that's why there is such an imbalance of male-female Lycia hirtaria.

Yes, it seems like in many species, females do not fly well into the light...

28.03.2008 19:47, Coleopter

Has the season of butterfly hunting in the Moscow region already started? But with beetles somehow nothing. Yesterday I walked through the park to see beetles. Under the bark and logs is almost empty (only a couple of single staphylin). It's cold, comrades, it's cold. Here in the middle of April, it's not a sin to dig in soil traps. You're throwing Carabus into port wine traps!!!

This post was edited by Coleopter - 03/28/2008 19: 51

28.03.2008 21:03, Zhuk

Damn, here the whole topic should already be transferred to "fishing reports"!!! umnik.gif

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