Buy or catch?

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bahurin, 14.06.2008 19:50

I think that buying butterflies is not sporty. The process is important: go to nature to catch up, catch up, then spread out. This is the meaning of the collection. Then you look at the butterfly under the glass and remember how you caught it and proudly tell who the thread is. And if you buy, then butterflies can be equated with a piece of sausage, which you can go and buy in the store, and then eat, but you will not get pleasure from such collecting. Although this is my personal opinion and I do not pretend, and do not impose, but only express, which is exactly what peacock eye asked for. In general, this message is 100% SPAM.

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14.06.2008 20:48, bahurin

I haven't fished in China, but if I want to add to the collection of butterflies from China, it's better to spend the money and go to China and catch them personally. For me, this is a rest you understand and not a business, and I do not consider money in this matter, but I get pleasure. I count my money in other areas.
On the other hand, you can't really catch all the butterflies, but you can't buy all of them, so this argument doesn't work either.
I can recognize the exchange of a butterfly for a butterfly as a way to add to the collection, because this is also getting pleasure from communicating with a fellow collector. And anyway, you wanted to know my opinion - you know it. If it does not match yours, then this is basically your problem, but I wrote at the top that I do not pretend and do not impose. And I ask you not to impose anything on me either. I didn't create a post where to buy butterflies.

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14.06.2008 21:25, bahurin

that's why the owner of the site didn't enjoy catching butterflies in China, because he sells them - this is his job, and work doesn't bring pleasure. And if seriously pleasure-to climb into the swamp to get wet, stink, feed mosquitoes and ticks and get a completely ordinary yolk, Ask on the forum you will be confirmed that this is a real pleasure that can never be compared with the pleasure of buying, although probably you and your owner will not understand this. And I talked to the Chinese - normal people if they are human (all people are normal if they are human, I'll tell you a secret). Even I am normal to your great surprise if you treat me like a human being, and do not try to impose an online store with butterflies.

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19.06.2008 10:26, Guest

Sometimes I'm just amazed by the coolness of site visitors...
"I'll go to China to catch butterflies myself.".. "Go and fish more pleasantly yourself"
What to catch? Where?How? Something with tvets is too tight...
In the section on fishing in the tropics and outside of Russia, some incompetent empty graters.
Have you fished there? Do you think it's easy? Can you do it? The question is that you don't know how to catch horseradish, and you don't know how to catch it. Ask Amosov if it was good in an Indian prison...
And it's easy to talk about your coolness and ability to catch yourself when you catch in Melitopol or Zhmerinka.
Buying is often your chance to get an insect, while catching which you can simply die or sit down. Such things.
Good luck to the brave hunters.

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19.06.2008 17:50, Dinusik

Mr. Bakhurin,
If you think that catching butterflies in China will bring you great pleasure, then, according to the owner of the site, who spent two years in China, you are deeply mistaken. He believes that just talking to the Chinese is worth a lot. I do not impose my opinion on you either, but I consider it my duty to express my own. I'm very sorry that it doesn't match yours. However, if everyone thought the same way, then there would be a universal melancholy, wouldn't there?

And what exactly is so terrible in terms of fishing in China? Of all my friends who went there, all are alive and well and happy with themselves. It seems to me that wherever you go, the main thing is not to turn fishing into poaching and then you will be happy! Although, this does not concern merchants, they are just trying to take out everything that moves from there. Actually, communication with the Chinese is not so annoying.
Naturally, everyone decides for themselves whether to catch or buy. It all depends on the nature and size of your wallet. I personally find it more interesting to catch than to buy. I wouldn't trade the chance to get out into nature for anything. But if you want something very exotic, you'll have to buy it.
But the harsh statements of the so-called guests have been annoying lately. Gentlemen, have the courage not only to shake the air with loud phrases, but also to call yourself.

This post was edited by Dinusik - 06/20/2008 07: 11

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23.06.2008 16:53, Pavel Morozov

There is an opportunity to go catch - go and catch.
If you can't go, find it and buy it.
Why do we bother with such trifles? As if there's anything wrong with buying the material. In the end, European entomologists do just that, buying dozens and hundreds of mattresses from collectors. And science is advancing, and collectors are rewarded.
Well, I don't want to go to, say, China yet (since the Middle Kingdom has already been touched upon), and there is not much opportunity yet either. I'd rather buy something that I'm interested in, if it's "interesting" for sale.
"It's better to go and catch it yourself" - well, well, and if a person is steaming in the office from morning to night, not seeing a vacation?
On the contrary, I believe that material dealers allow not only to add to the collection, but also to make the dream of many, many people come true.
In Soviet times, the iron Curtain was only slightly opened in the direction of Cuba, well, or Vietnam. The exchange of material was a good addition to our own collections. But it was impossible to buy something "overseas". Just as the Soviet entomologist used to dream of tropical butterflies - morpho, urania, and birdwings! Now these uranias and birdwings are on sale, even in bulk, and even hatched! And no one, except for the producers of souvenirs, is particularly needed now. A lot of sites offer the most diverse material.
There was a time when I used to drool over some Onithoptera priamus in a souvenir frame.

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