Net bags

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Peter Khramov, 16.09.2014 14:01

They started making their own bags. In general, who took it, everything was fine with everyone, but there were also a couple of comments. I want to clarify how specific they are for specific people, i.e. whether it is worth making some changes for complete happiness.
Keep in mind that:
A) Bags for ordinary nets (not water, not for mowing).
B) The design is two-petaled (without a pronounced bottom).
We are interested in your opinion on two parameters::
1. The length of the bag. Now it's done like this (diameter — length):
30 — 70
35 — 80
40 — 90
50 — 115
65 — 150
That is, two turns plus a margin (do not forget that one of the sides of the bag turns less, so the margin is formed not flat, but quite bag-shaped and, in general, somewhat larger than the length of the Bag minus Two Diameters.
For regular Entosphinx models/The length of the paradox is smaller. The exception is 40 cm, for which it is the same.
Question:Do you think that the above parameters are normal for the average user?
2. Bottom shape. Now it's done like this:
user posted image
That is, the bottom shape is slightly rounded. As far as I remember, it looks about the same in Paradox.
But in Entosphinxes (especially in small sizes) she's like this:

That is, it is flat.
I think that the slight rounding of such a (flat) bag is only a plus, but I may not be able to catch up with something. That's why the second question is:
Leave it as it is or make a flat version, like Entosphinx?
Please vote in the survey above and unsubscribe comments in the subject line.
P. S. Again. The survey is specifically for a two-petaled (flat) bag design.

This post was edited by Asar - 16.09.2014 14: 02

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17.09.2014 17:20, Penzyak

Guys, I look at your nets and wonder!!?
I won't talk too much - in short...
The size and length of the bag depend primarily on the net.
As a result of MANY years of practical field research (25 years), through trial and error, we have developed such a net size and bag size as in the photos.
That is, a pattern has developed - for a universal field net, its length is the width of the net (two rims)and a little extra ...
The bottom should consist of four parts and must be rounded.
The fabric is white, we are still using old mill gas reserves... arganza is rough and heavy!
The best net rim circumference is teardrop-shaped. That is, the net is ideally an extension of the hand!
If you can make a net bag according to my size , I'll test it.
Sincerely yours, Sanych.

This post was edited by Penzyak - 17.09.2014 17: 34

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19.04.2015 20:47, Синицын Валерий

I don't agree with the white color ! The bag must be Black or at least dark! Such a bag of butterflies does not frighten, and sometimes they do not notice it at all . While white is shunned like fire ! The mesh mesh is ideally large ( about 1 mm.), and the fabric is desirable rough as tulle. Don't rush to spit on me-this is also from personal experience. Firstly, the fabric with a small mesh passes air worse and when such nets are swung, an air flow is created that, sometimes, throws the butterfly out of the net , and the net with a small mesh moves more slowly due to air resistance. Also, fine soft fabric retains moisture and in a humid climate the net is constantly damp , and scales from butterfly wings stick very well to wet fabric! Large mesh is always easy to blow it is dry and does not erase even nymphalids and pigeons, well, almost.

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05.05.2015 9:46, vasiliy-feoktistov

Color to choose from, personally only white.

Only white. Uniquely. The caught insect is most noticeable just on a white background.
And about the fact that insects are afraid of white color..... All this is idle speculation and nothing more. Here everything depends not on the color of the bag, but on how the collector himself owns the collection technique.
Comparison: even with the coolest and most sophisticated hammer, you will definitely hit your fingers without knowing how to hammer nails

White is not really even a "color" per se, but a mixture of all the colors in the spectrum. Logic: insects sit on white daisies, etc. So they don't care about the white color

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 05.05.2015 09: 59

05.05.2015 18:08, Maksim M.

For different purposes-different nets.I have 2 types - for fishing in years-mesh, breathable, bag material and universal-from the organza type, but more dense-this can be easily mowed on all types of tops,does not cling.I saw the 3rd type of B. Coleopter, a heavy and impenetrable, unbreakable and unnerving eternal structure, you can mow on bamboo, and just in case chevo fight off a bear.If the bag is torn on the road-it is simply repaired-a lighter and a piece of nylon thread, twisted and cauterized with fire, and pulled off with a thread, hold on for a long time.And when I got into the trash-a new bag, the bag is enough for me for 2-3 seasons,when fishing on roads and rocks, for example, horses, the os is beaten hard on the hoop, and there you can't repair it...