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PG18, 27.11.2007 12:31

Judging by the search in this forum, not a single cocoonworm was lying around yet!..
I'll put the first two:
Gastropacha quercifolia
Gastropacha populifolia


For one thing:
1. I would like to make sure that I correctly distinguish them (by drawing the outer half of the item kr....).
2. And ask: Does anyone have pictures of Phyllodesma tremulifolia, Phyllodesma ilicifolia & Eriogaster spp. in nature? Pts. needed (for the book)...

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картинка: 42_Gastropacha_quercifolia_0352_2.jpg
42_Gastropacha_quercifolia_0352_2.jpg — (145.58к)

picture: 42_Gastropacha_populifolia_0121_______2.jpg
42_Gastropacha_populifolia_0121_______2.jpg — (37.7 k)

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27.11.2007 16:15, AntSkr

There are a lot of images on the Internet... for example, on the macro club website, you can probably negotiate with the authors...
And cocoonworms are a good family, especially Gastropachinae smile.gif
What kind of book are you publishing?

This post was edited by AntSkr - 27.11.2007 16: 42

27.11.2007 21:15, PG18

There are a lot of images on the Internet... for example, on the macro club website, you can probably negotiate with the authors...
And cocoonworms are a good family, especially Gastropachinae smile.gif
What kind of book are you publishing?


Thank you. In fact, I found Phyllodesma tremulifolia in the macro club almost in nature, and in the same V. I. Gumenyuk... But the fluffy cocoonworm seems to be taken only in the form of caterpillars by our photographers frown.gif
Book - " Butterflies of the Southern Urals. Reference guide " ...

27.11.2007 21:18, AntSkr

Search for Eriogaster in foreign sources. I don't think I've ever seen it in domestic stores.

By the way, has anyone caught E. lanestris in the MO?

27.11.2007 21:34, Grigory Grigoryev

The caterpillars were collected and bred by butterflies, but the imago was never found in nature. On light, at least at me, does not fly.
P. S. Straightened butterflies to expose on a forum - not problem

27.11.2007 21:36, AntSkr

to cajarc, be sure to expose everyone! Approximately how many species do you have in your yard?

27.11.2007 22:18, Grigory Grigoryev

And why "you" and not us? And there are only 29 species according to Chistyakov Yu. A., including insular ones.

27.11.2007 22:25, AntSkr

I just meant species flying only in the Far East (or the Siberian part of Russia, not flying in Europe...)

27.11.2007 22:52, Grigory Grigoryev

Then that leaves 17 species + 1??
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27.11.2007 23:50, Pavel Morozov

I decided to post some photos of cocoonworm caterpillars.

Trichiura crataegi
M. O., Odintsovo district, Chigasovo, 05.06.2005.

This post was edited by Morozzz - 10.12.2009 18: 52

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picture: Phyllodesma_ilicifolia_05_06_05.jpg
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27.11.2007 23:51, Pavel Morozov

Cosmotriche lobulina
M. O., Odintsovo district, Yudino, May, 2006.

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picture: Cosmotriche_lobulina.jpg
Cosmotriche_lobulina.jpg — (224.78к)

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27.11.2007 23:54, Pavel Morozov

Philudoria (Eutrix) sp.
Primorsky Krai, Khasansky district, Vityaz Bay, 21.07.2006.

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eutrix.jpg — (412.1к)

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27.11.2007 23:59, Pavel Morozov

Well, our grass cocoonworm is a drunkard.
Philudoria potatoria (potator - drunkard, Latin)
M. O., Naro-Fominsky district, Poryadino, 21.05.2005.

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picture: Philudoria_potatoria_21_05_05_3.jpg
Philudoria_potatoria_21_05_05_3.jpg — (232.85к)

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28.11.2007 16:24, AntSkr

Is it true that they suck out other caterpillars when there is a lack of water? I read and myself observed a caterpillar and the skin of another caterpillar in the bank.

29.11.2007 14:54, Pavel Morozov

Is it true that they suck out other caterpillars when there is a lack of water? I read and myself observed a caterpillar and the skin of another caterpillar in the bank.

Truth. And not just cocoonworms.

29.11.2007 22:29, AntSkr

Is Philudoria a new genus name? What's wrong with Eutrix taxonomists?

30.11.2007 19:57, Ilia Ustiantcev

A few more photos of the herb garden. In the south of the Ozuyevsky district in 2006, mass reproduction occurred.
picture: cosmotriche_potatoria2.jpg
picture: cosmotriche_potatoria3.jpg
picture: cosmotriche_potatoria4.jpg
picture: cosmotriche_potatoria_larva.jpg
I will not post the raspberry caterpillar, there is already a lot of it on the definition in the corresponding topic.

This post was edited by Ilya U - 11/30/2007 19: 58
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30.11.2007 20:10, AntSkr

Yes, in 2006 there was a sea of herbs... But this year I saw quite a few of them...

30.11.2007 20:16, Ilia Ustiantcev

Across the entire region?

30.11.2007 20:19, Zhuk

Yes, in 2006 there were a lot of them in the west of Moscow region! I crushed their stock by accident, when I caught the light... And in this they were not enough and moved away somehow quickly.

This post was edited by Zhuk - 11/30/2007 20: 19
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30.11.2007 20:20, AntSkr

In the Stupinsky district as well-they almost flew in flocks... At the beginning of July, I saw 10 caterpillars per day, or even more... And this year there were much fewer of them, maybe because of the early and rather dry summer...

This post was edited by AntSkr - 11/30/2007 20: 27
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30.11.2007 20:27, Ilia Ustiantcev

Here's the strange thing: this summer I met quite a lot of caterpillars (4 times less than last year, that is also enough) and not a single butterfly (although I was not in the Moscow Region in the second half of July).

30.11.2007 20:30, AntSkr

And I just started catching numbers from July 20 (in the first half of July it didn't work out) - for 10 days I saw only a few males and, in my opinion, one female in the distance...
In early July, I found a cocoon, but it turned out to be infected with parasites...

30.11.2007 22:05, Pavel Morozov

Guys!
Yes, there are a lot of them every year! this is the most common cocoonworm.

30.11.2007 22:07, AntSkr

Yes, this is understandable, just in 2006 they were like flies... And this year it really wasn't enough... But this year I caught a female Trichiura crataegi for the first time, usually only males arrived. In general, what is the rarest cocoonworm in the Moscow Region?

30.11.2007 22:17, Vlad Proklov

Yes, this is understandable, just in 2006 they were like flies... And this year it really wasn't enough... But this year I caught a female Trichiura crataegi for the first time, usually only males arrived. In general, what is the rarest cocoonworm in the Moscow Region?

Candidates:
Lasiocampa trifolii - known from one find near Mozhaisk in the mid-twentieth century.
Eriogaster lanestris, Cosmotriche lobulina, Phyllodesma ilicifolia are simply rare species.
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30.11.2007 22:18, Pavel Morozov

Probably, this question is not unequivocally answered. Just like T. crataegi - not the most common.
I, for example, have never seen Fluffy in M. O. before.
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30.11.2007 22:20, Pavel Morozov

Yes, and C. lobulina and P. ilicifolia only saw caterpillars, their photos are higher.
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30.11.2007 22:21, AntSkr

What about other Phyllodesma species: japonicum and tremulifolium?
to Morozzz: have you ever tried to grow butterflies from C. lobulina and P. ilicifolia caterpillars?

This post was edited by AntSkr - 11/30/2007 22: 22

30.11.2007 22:23, Vlad Proklov

What about other Phyllodesma species: japonicum and tremulifolium?

Ph. tremulifolia is more or less frequent (they are generally non-banal butterflies, except for grass and ringed). Did they catch Ph. japonica at all in the MO?

30.11.2007 22:25, AntSkr

Well, according to the list of Sirotkin like... we need to check...
I looked it up... one find in the Kaluga region...

This post was edited by AntSkr - 11/30/2007 22: 29

30.11.2007 22:28, Vlad Proklov

Well, according to the list of Sirotkin like... we need to check it out...

I check: the vicinity of Kaluga, 1919. Not a word about MO.
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30.11.2007 22:32, AntSkr

I just noticed that P. populi has an occurrence under category 3. It seems to be banal... In any case, at the beginning of October this year, I caught 7 pieces in the evening...

30.11.2007 22:37, Vlad Proklov

I just noticed that P. populi has an occurrence under category 3. It seems to be banal... In any case, at the beginning of October this year, I caught 7 pieces in the evening...

Maybe. But I did not catch in Russia at this time never frown.gif

30.11.2007 23:26, Pavel Morozov

What about other Phyllodesma species: japonicum and tremulifolium?
to Morozzz: have you ever tried to grow butterflies from C. lobulina and P. ilicifolia caterpillars?

attempts failed.
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30.11.2007 23:30, Pavel Morozov

P. populi is a common species. In Odintsovo district (Yudino, Chigasovo) on the poles of lanterns for several pieces in late September-early October.
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30.11.2007 23:47, Grigory Grigoryev

Deduced from the tracks:
- 1 female P. japonicum arborea
- P. ilicifolia nesk. ex
-1 female C. lobulina
As for C. lobulina and P. japonicum, for the entire time of ent. there was only one ex each. caterpillars of each species, and even then C. lobulina was not found by me (I passed by.....).

In general, when you bring out butterflies, you should always try to be" indifferent " to the future result - it turns out better. They feel like - if you run around with this caterpillar (or pupa), as with a "written bag" - it will definitely die.
There was an experience of breeding L. dumi - what only I did not do with the pupa, so that the already formed butterfly left its shell, all in vain. I spat, left it in a box on the loggia and forgot. About a couple of days later, my wife says: "There's a noise in the box on your loggia.
Here's the story ...
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30.11.2007 23:54, Vlad Proklov

P. populi is a common species. In Odintsovo district (Yudino, Chigasovo) on the poles of lanterns for several pieces in late September-early October.

And in the south of England it's just now starting to take off smile.gif
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01.12.2007 0:14, Pavel Morozov

There aren't enough pictures.

Agruda insulindiana
Malaysia, North Borneo.

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picture: Arguda_insulindiana.JPG
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01.12.2007 0:15, Pavel Morozov

Radhica elisabethae
Malaysia, North Borneo.

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picture: Radhica_elisabethae.JPG
Radhica_elisabethae.JPG — (364.97к)

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