Family Brahmaeidae

Caterpillar Brahmaea hearseyi from our joint culture with Hemaris.

This post was edited by VIC D-28.02.2008 14: 50

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European Bramaea
Acanthobrahmaea europaea
Italy, Voltourne mts

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How many species are there in this family? I read that there are about 20 of them...

Here's something else.
Central African Dactylocera lucina

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Sort of like Brahmaea hearsyi from Borneo

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I didn't think they were still flying in Africa, I thought only in the South-In Asia.

Well, and of course, the Far Eastern Brahmaea tancrei (or still, certhia?)
Primorsky Krai, Ussuriysky district, Kaimanovka

Please clarify the situation with the taxa certhia and tancrei

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I didn't think they were still flying in Africa, I thought only in the South-In Asia.

There are at least a couple of species in Africa

An immodest question: does anyone have B. ledereri?

One specimen was seen by B. ledereri in the St. Petersburg Zoo Museum. and they said that this species
was not caught for a hundred years.Mr. Plyushch from Kiev - - - 10 years old.
The most interesting thing is that they say there is a work from Iran, which proves that the species
B. ledereri and B. christophi are actually one species.

There are at least 4 Dactylocera species flying in Africa. Brahmaea certhia and tancrei are two different species, they look like twin species, but the caterpillars are significantly different.

There are at least 4 Dactylocera species flying in Africa. Bramei certhia and tancrei are two different species, externally they are twin species, but the caterpillars are significantly different.

Yes, I was told about Lederi and Kristofi that they found butterflies in a gap in their range, and now they are definitely one species..

Yes, I was told about Lederi and Kristofi that they found butterflies in a gap in their range, and now they are definitely one species..

And not a secret, where exactly?

Here, I found on the Internet an article by Josefa J de Freina about these brahms. Unfortunately, it is written in German, but the meaning is clear that he reduced everything to Brahmaea ledereri with subspecies.

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Morozzz:
Nagomatulin told me about it. I don't remember where she was caught..

I am ready to work hard for the benefit of the forum and translate from German to Russian

"I am ready to work hard for the benefit of the forum and translate from German to Russian"

In fact, you don't need to translate everything, only the most important things that relate to the rationale for reducing taxa to a single species.

"I am ready to work hard for the benefit of the forum and translate from German to Russian"

In fact, you don't need to translate everything, only the most important things that relate to the rationale for reducing taxa to a single species.

Got it, I'm getting started.

The article is titled "New population of B. ledereri in Turkish Kurdistan as evidence of conspecificity of ledereri and christophi".
Briefly, the key points.
The author describes a new subspecies Brahmaea ledereri zaba.
Holotype from Turkish Kurdistan, Hakkari province, Zab Tal, 30 km south of Hakkari, 1200-1300 m, 03-13. 06. 1981. Leg De Freina, coll Witt.
Judging by the text, the author justifies his opinion by the features of the drawing.
Forewing: length 55 mm, ground background matte dark brown, darker than ledereri and christophi. The basal part of the wing is similar to ledereri. Relative to the pattern, the wavy lines are less numerous and not as well defined towards the leading edge. The median sash is broad, like that of christophi, while that of ledereri is narrowed and even interrupted in some specimens.
Hindwing: Basal part of the same width as in ledereri, but nevertheless with a light band like in christophi.

Something like that. I apologize for some clumsiness in the translation.

Brahmaea ledereri christophi Staudinger, 1879
Azerbaijan, Talysh.
males, sort of.

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Brahmaea ledereri christophi Staudinger, 1879
Azerbaijan, Talysh.
At the top is a male.

Aren't they both males?

and the bellies?

and the bellies?

And the mustache?

oh. sorry mi, ser

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Caterpillar Brahmaea hearseyi 2nd age.

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Dear forumchane! I offer you a selection of photos of butterflies of the Brahmaeidae family from my own collection.
Unfortunately, there is very little information about this group, so I hope this selection will help you understand the diversity of the world's brahmins. If someone also has photos of these butterflies, please post them! Perhaps, in this way, we will collect at least some small "determinant".

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Acanthobrahmaea_europaea_Hartig__1963__male___Itali.jpg — (93.89к)


Acanthobrahmaea_europaea_Hartig__1963__female___Itali.jpg — (102.48к)


Brahmaea_celebica_Toxopeus__1939__male___Sulawesi.jpg — (114.97к)


Brahmaea_certhia_Fabricius__1793___China.jpg — (124.86к)


Brahmaea_christophi_Staudinger__1879___Azerbaijan.jpg — (124.74к)


Brahmaea_christophi_Staudinger__1879__female___Azerbaijan.jpg — (119.95к)


Brahmaea_christophi_Staudinger__1879__male___Iran.jpg — (119.32к)


Brahmaea_hearseyi__White__1862__female___China.jpg — (129.99к)


Brahmaea_hearseyi_White__1862__female___China.jpg — (122.23к)


Brahmaea_hearseyi_White__1862__male___C_Sumatra.jpg — (120.63к)


Brahmaea_hearseyi_White__1862__male___China.jpg — (119.92к)


Brahmaea_hearseyi_White__1862__male___N_Borneo.jpg — (114.57к)


Brahmaea_hearseyi_White__1862__male___Philippines.jpg — (117.19к)


Brahmaea_hearseyi_White__1862__male___S_Vietnam.jpg — (122.66к)


Brahmaea_japonica_Butler__1873__male___Japan.jpg — (88.4к)


Brahmaea_ledereri_Rogenhofer__1873__female___N_Turkey.jpg — (110.25к)


Brahmaea_ledereri_Rogenhofer__1873__male___Turkey.jpg — (111.75к)


Brahmaea_loeffleri_Naumann__2005___S_Borneo.jpg — (111.6к)


Brahmaea_porphyrio_Chu___Wang___China.jpg — (119.58к)


Brahmaea_porphyrio_Chu_et_Wang___China.jpg — (119.65к)


Brahmaea_tancrei_Austaud__1896___N_Koree.jpg — (111.58к)


Brahmaea_tancrei_Austaud__1896___S_Primorye.jpg — (124.73к)


Brahmaea_wallichi_Gray__1831__female___China.jpg — (116.55к)


Brahmaea_wallichi_Gray__1831__male___S_Vietnam.jpg — (114.64к)


Dactyloceras_barnsi_Joicey___Talbot__1924___Rwanda.jpg — (115.17к)


Dactyloceras_bramarbas_Karsch__1895__male___Cameroun.jpg — (113.22к)


Dactyloceras_lucina_Drury__1782__female___Congo.jpg — (105.4к)


Dactyloceras_lucina__Drury_1782__male___Congo.jpg — (94.41к)

Dear forumchane! I offer you a selection of photos of butterflies of the Brahmaeidae family from my own collection.
Unfortunately, there is very little information about this group, so I hope this selection will help you understand the diversity of the world's brahmins. If someone also has photos of these butterflies, please post them! Perhaps, in this way, we will collect at least some small "determinant".

Very nice spread!

By the way, if anyone is interested, then there are fresh ones (they were removed a week ago) Brahmaea hearseyi! Still soft (in the freezer)!

Just great!!!

an interesting collection!1

cool fotki

Awesome!
Now, thanks to your photos, Entoterra, I finally understand the difference between wallichi and hearseyi!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I take it from the pattern in the basal part of the hind wings? There don't seem to be any more special differences, if you don't compare males)

If you haven't noticed the elephant, pay attention to the top of the front wings... roughly speaking, "check marks" in different directions!

Yeah.. blindness isn't just about image quality ^_^
thank you!

Brahmaea certhia, China

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Although not quite cocoonworms, but let them be here
All from Omsk region, steppe:
Lemonia dumi (Linnaeus, 1761)
September 22, 2010
Male


Female


Lemonia taraxaci ([Denis et Schiffermüller], 1775)
August 13, 2010


This post was edited by Konung-04.10.2010 19: 13