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06.12.2011 7:38, Egorus

How long did it take to make the photo? ...an insect that lives high in the mountains... in the jungle... in another country ... not seen in many decades... leading a hidden
lifestyle ... and do not go to the main job because the photo is not sold because
stolen... being a hungry photo author without feeding YOUR kids...

... yes, bullshit-a split second!!!
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06.12.2011 12:57, Victor Titov

It stung. smile.gifIt's good. Then I will continue in a more mocking style. To make it clear.

VVolkov, don't bother so much. Everyone understood you long ago. Another thing is that not everyone agrees with you. Well, do not blame me - how many people, so many opinions.

"With what measure you measure, it will be measured to you" - exactly.

Exactly said! Just first figure out whether you are measuring the right ones, or the right measure...

Here on the site, almost all books are stolen, articles are bypassed by licenses and publishers. Can I ask the authors? But you prefer it fast and without asking.

And who do you apply to? What makes you think that those who are outraged by the attribution of authorship of their pictures, themselves "prefer quickly and without asking"? A plagiarist who appropriated someone else's site or signed someone else's photo with his own name is caught by the hand and specified specifically. What makes you think you have the right to accuse everyone?

About photos-maybe you came up with insects yourself?

Well, dad... Look at what they thought up after a sleepless (apparently) night! So you can continue. Or maybe you yourself have come up with the laws of nature, which you deign to write about in your articles? According to your logic, the authorship here is not with you, but with the Almighty (for believers) or with nature itself (for atheists)!

I would have stolen the site from you, too.

A bold statement! Write a confession and I'll accept it. A sincere confession, you know, mitigates the punishment lol.gif

That you are sorry that someone else will use it better and promote science more actively?

Again unsubstantiated. What makes you think it's better? And who is the other one? What are you doing?

About the pathetic photos of butterflies and beetles-generally silent.

But this is blatant rudeness. After this phrase, you look pathetic.
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06.12.2011 14:57, Aleksandr Safronov

For Hierophis

I really don't know how old you are.
If you are over fifty (which is unlikely), then all this is useless.
If you are younger, maybe you should think about what will be left after you, other than posts on molbiol.
You have never searched for a single article, you have a lot of free time, You put the device on everything that was before you and will be after you.

I even know what the neo-hippie reaction will be ... shuffle.gif

06.12.2011 19:15, Hierophis

Some kind of tinplate smile.gif

So, music pause(s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URoVL-mGNmk

06.12.2011 19:24, Victor Titov

Some kind of tinplate smile.gif

So, music pause(s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URoVL-mGNmk

What are you talking about? But what about the copyright of the artist, the authors of the music and lyrics, and other copyright holders related to this film?! Double standards? wink.gif
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06.12.2011 19:52, Hierophis

Dmitrich, if you really want to talk, then tell me, here is such a clever question-
let's say a person has everything acquired by honest work at home, and one thing is stolen, he himself "honestly stole it", and is fully aware of "the whole burden", but nevertheless uses it, and borrows others.
Is he a thief?

06.12.2011 20:12, Victor Titov

Dmitrich, if you really want to talk, then tell me, here is such a clever question-
let's say a person has everything acquired by honest work at home, and one thing is stolen, he himself "honestly stole it", and is fully aware of "the whole burden", but nevertheless uses it, and borrows others.
Is he a thief?

I just don't want to talk. Therefore, I will answer briefly - a thief (if we are talking about a thing). But the parallel with copyright infringement (and you probably want to draw it) is not appropriate and not correct. I don't think we have much more to talk about on this subject - you have your opinion, I have mine. I consider the conversation on this issue to be over.

06.12.2011 22:39, VVolkov

Uh-huh.smile.gif)) Let's continue. I hope that anyone has the right to an opinion... So-listen carefully!

Work better in winter. Or pick up a coal in the mine.
And in the mountains with a backpack in the fresh air for beetles - I myself will be happy to walk in the summer. Or did you extend your transport to the mountains? Railway lines and bus routes?
Why do you go for a walk in the mountains?

And the photo-so, the thirst for profit drives you, and not the love of pure entomology?
Writing and working on an article can take months or years, sometimes. Unlike the split second in the photo. Not to mention books.
And if the photo is so expensive, make an album.


IMHO, pure photographers and site builders with a thirst for profit and narcissism have no place in experimental biology.

This post was edited by VVolkov - 06.12.2011 22: 40

06.12.2011 23:17, rhopalocera.com

I don't agree. Taking a photo like Parnassius loxias is a really sexy thing to do. But to get to this type... minimum 500 oiro.

06.12.2011 23:19, Hierophis

Heh, well, about the thirst for profit - this will be too fat smile.gif
It's rather just a sense of possessiveness, well, or some other reasons, I do not know, maybe it's a pity that so much money is spent on photo equipment, and all sorts of anonymous photos are posted on their websites. There I have a cheap soap dish, so I probably do not shake over the pictures ))) It is better to spend money on the hikes themselves and on experimental technologies than on hardware)

About experimental biology-powerfully saidsmile.gif, But here this is not done like-would wink.gif

In general, for me, pictures are not the most important results of the hike, mainly various trends, notes on behavior, ecology, animal biology, transformation of biotopes - precipitation there, overforestation, the reaction of fauna/flora to this, etc. And photography in this role is just a tool, no more, without fetishism smile.gif

By the way, I work here in the winter)) Of course, I can't attribute to myself the fact that I "throw coal", but I work at a factory, the work is not heavenly, megahertz, millivolts, micrometers all need to be caught.
However, to be honest-trips to the steppes/seas/rivers are sometimes harder than working days, but nevertheless I always give priority to hiking, because I like it.. but to also make money out of it? Wouldn't these hikes get worse if they become a source of income just as much, or even more, than a job? wink.gif
And that-oh, fuck it!!!
Licenses still any under each photo to write, wedge blinton, yes will absorb them all medyanka, these licenses!

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