Thaumetopoeidae-Marching Silkworms

There is a theme with tufts already...

The curator of the crested theme suggested creating a new theme.

Interesting group. And, importantly, with an undefined status.
I'll post a couple of photos.
By the way, it is important to know where the eastern border of the distribution of European species passes - which is a real marching and pine. It seems that they do not reach Russia and stop in Ukraine and the Baltic States. But what if someone has fees from us?
I'll also add a little reading about the Himal family.

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Interesting group. And, importantly, with an undefined status.
[...By the
way, it is important to know where the eastern border of the distribution of European species passes - which is a real marching and pine. It seems that they do not reach Russia and stop in Ukraine and the Baltic States. But what if someone has fees from us?

In fact, the status of the group and its position in the superfamily are quite well defined:



Th. pinivora is found in the Kaliningrad region-modern finds from the Curonian Spit - there were several articles on it in the "Review" - here in one of them.

And Th. pityocampa, like, reaches the west of Ukraine.

aha, something about sphinx and bombyx confuses me

yeah, something about the sphinx and bombyx confuses me

Than?

nothing anymore.
Schintlmeister's work on genera of Notodontidae will soon be published (or has it already been published?)
In short, we'll wait.

And what will Vadim Viktorovich say?

Zahiri's articles, I'm sorry, are not a particular example. Every year they change the system of scoops with the addition of new genera. I guess this is called upgrading, but for some reason branching changes dramatically with new markers. This makes us wary of such constructions. However, the morphology does not contradict the inclusion of the strikers in the tufts, and even the musculature of the terminal appendages is of the same plan. But the caterpillar morphology is somehow very different.
In Schintelmeister's new book (not published!) they are inside the tufts.

...In Schintelmeister's new book (not published!) they are inside the tufts.

What exactly will be in this book (at least a few words, in the most general terms)?

If in the most general terms, then this is a preliminary checklist of world fauna and a small essay towards the family system. Special emphasis is placed on the Neotropics, which in many aspects the author considers to be key to understanding the group's taxonomy. New species will be described, but no actual revisions of genera are planned within the book.

Here are two species from Africa, where the group is particularly rich

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Anaphe_venata_etiennei_Sah_Congo.jpg — (171.54к)


Paradrallia_punctigera_Hulst_Congol.jpg — (124.09к)

more hikers from Africa. Follow the link
http://www.africanmoths.com/pages/NOTODONT...20thumbsall.htm

Thaumetopoea pinivora from the Curonian Spit has already been mentioned here, and here it is.

Kaliningrad region, Curonian Spit, 17th km, 18.07.2008

By the way, in 2008 there were a lot of these caterpillars there - whereas a year earlier, at about the same time, in the same place, not a single one came across-probably waves of life

Zahiri's articles, I'm sorry, are not a particular example. Every year they change the system of scoops with the addition of new genera. I guess this is called upgrading, but for some reason branching changes dramatically with new markers. This makes us wary of such constructions. However, the morphology does not contradict the inclusion of the strikers in the tufts, and even the musculature of the terminal appendages is of the same plan. But the caterpillar morphology is somehow very different.
In Schintelmeister's new book (not published!) they are inside the tufts.

I'll agree and add a little more detail.

The molecular phylogeny of the group can only be trusted when all genera are included in the analysis. We all understand that it is unrealistic to do this for two reasons: first-where to get so much fresh material, and second-how to analyze the resulting sheets of cladograms? As long as the phylogeny proceeds in "chunks" (100 genera last year, 120 this year, etc.), the order of basal branchings can (and will) change dramatically. At the same time-about a miracle! - it will have good bootstep support. In any branching order! No, for now, let's move away from the molecular phylogeny of huge groups as too phantom, until enough sequence material is accumulated (this will take more than a decade, given, firstly, the price of this pleasure, and secondly, the fact that no one purposefully does this-the work is episodic).

3 types of my fees:

- Himala argentea Walker, 1855
North. Thailand, August 2011 Looks like a female

- Himala nigripennis Kishida, 2000
Nev. Thailand, August 2011

- Gazalina chrysolopha Kollar PAIR, 1844
Nepal, May 2012

This post was edited by cajarc - 24.03.2013 23: 05

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Himala_argentea_Walker__1855.jpg — (274.41к)


Himala_nigripennis_Kishida__2000.jpg — (235.71к)

Here is a friend from Africa.
Epanaphe nigripicta Hulstaert, 1924
Male-Malawi

Anaphe subsordida Butler, 1893
Male-Cameroon
Very contrasting specimen.



This post was edited by chebur - 27.05.2013 21: 57

Gazalina transversa (Moore, 1859) Malaysia, Pahang 03.2014

This post was edited by vicgrr - 28.02.2015 15: 17

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I publish photos of 2 African species, including type 1. The names are forgotten, and in some places simply unknown, because they were described as volnyanki. Suddenly someone will be happy.

This post was edited by dim-va-04.03.2015 08: 25

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Dasychira_variegata_Holland_Wiesbaden.jpg — (288.92к)

Paradrallia rhodesi Bethune-Baker, 1908
Males-Malawi, leg.Yakovlev