The Red Book and insects

I readily believe that Mr. Penziak searched quite honestly and quite honestly did not find it.

I can only say positively that the thrust-to-weight ratio is greater than one, otherwise the boom could not have been washed. But he can.

Our sins are grave...

Polumordvinov O. A., Monakhov A.M., 2005. Deer beetle Lucanus cervus (Linnaeus, 1758) (Coleoptera, Lucanidae) in the Penza region// Izvestiya PSPU. Scientific and educational issues. Young Scientists ' Sector. No. 1 (3). Penza: PSPU. 2005. pp. 30-32.

This post was edited by Penzyak - 10/27/2016 10: 52

Well, then I take my words back: after all, Mr. Penzyak found it, which means that even in the extreme (for this beetle) north, he still sometimes comes across. All the less reason to include it in the federal tax code, since the regional one was enough. Do it better next time "throw to the southwest", in the month of June...

According to the bold text: so I'm talking about the same thing: data was collected for one area at the edge of the range, and the beetle was "pushed" to the CC of the Russian Federation... I hope not on the principle of " Since we have almost no x left, so let them not dare to catch x in other regions either."

Brown bear in the KK of the Penza region and here I am surprised to read:

http://www.province.ru/penza/news/item/3400-podrobnosti

kick-ass now to local bears...

http://penza.bezformata.ru/listnews/podrob...ditci/51507133/

http://www.penzainform.ru/news/incidents/2...u_medvedya.html

.. well, now the last WILD bears that still LIVE in the FORESTS in the north-east of the region will be killed quietly under this hype... here they are regional CC, everything is protected only on paper...

And what should be done with a bear with obvious signs of behavior deviation? Give me a peck on the nose and tell me not to lie in the middle of the road again? And who will kill bears without deviating behavior, you can find out, especially since hunting for them in your area is closed?
By the way, the number of these creatures in our region has been growing exponentially over the past decades. In the northern regions of the region, during expedition trips, you have to be extremely careful not to run into anything...

 
.. well, now the last WILD bears that still LIVE in the FORESTS in the north-east of the region will be killed quietly under this hype... here they are regional CC, everything is protected only on paper...

According to the Acting Minister of Forestry, Hunting and Nature Management of the Penza region, the number of bears in the Penza region is 0 heads. Who will be killed then?

And what should be done with a bear with obvious signs of behavior deviation?

This is all reminiscent of last year's Arctic story about the cook and "little Umka".

Usually, in the center of the European part of Russia, bears do not turn brown completely and when they meet a person, they remember who is in charge here. This, of course, does not apply to females with young. But this behavior, as described above, is a clear deviation. Either the bear really lived in captivity, or something is wrong with it. Rabies, for example. Such a beast will be dangerous for sure, so its elimination, I believe, is fully justified. Rehabilitation of an adult tame bear is impossible, if only because of the lack of extensive unpopulated spaces.

In the northern regions of the region, during expedition trips, you have to be extremely careful not to run into anything...

As it turned out this year not only in the northern regions... Didn't you tell me about the bear tracks in the swamp where I spent the night just the day before?
And here's another fresh one http://yarportal.ru/topic840486.html

According to the Acting Minister of Forestry, Hunting and Nature Management of the Penza region, the number of bears in the Penza region is 0 heads.

Probably, he used the rules of the same exotic arithmetic as a person who managed to stamp the area of deer beetle habitats on the territory of the Russian Federation in 500 square meters. m. I will timidly assume that one of the variables in the calculation formula includes the amount taken on the breast before or during this operation.

This post was edited INO-28.10.2016 16: 22

On a whim, in the distant 70s, you definitely had it present
I saw it myself between the town of Myshkin and the village of Gorodishchi. True, it was a long time ago.

On a whim, in the distant 70s, you definitely had it present

Duck, and now in those places is present: litter with Anthrenus (om) and Elizar (om) themselves saw.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 28.10.2016 19: 41

Probably, he used the rules of the same exotic arithmetic as a person who managed to stamp the area of deer beetle habitats on the territory of the Russian Federation in 500 square meters. m. I will timidly assume that one of the variables in the calculation formula includes the amount taken on the breast before or during this operation.

Well, still, such large animals are easier to count than insects, so information about the number of bears can be quite reliable.

They may be able to, but as you can guess from a simple analysis of the last few messages. they are not. In the Penza region, at least.

Korb S. K., Pozhogin D. A., Zatakovoy A. A., Talyak R. E. 2016. The experience of inventory of the lepidoptera fauna of the Nizhny Novgorod region and its application to the compilation of the Red Book of the region (Insecta: Lepidoptera) / / Zapovednaya nauka. 2 (1): 57 - 72

If you are interested, I will send you the pdf.

Populations of hard-to-identify species must first be identified. And if there are no experts on them in the region, then I am afraid that they will remain unidentified.

The CC is intended for the work of a wide range of environmental specialists, including school teachers, etc. Have you ever had to deal with flying in the Nizhny Novgorod region allyankastriya Kavkazskaya or with the ubiquitous Apollo in it? But these are not difficult to define types

If we are talking about insects, then for the average "school teacher, etc." they will all be difficult to identify, exceptions can be counted on the fingers. If the mountain does not go and I can not get to the point of discovery, then suspecting "cranobook" at least from the pictures from the CC (that's why they should be as high-quality and plausible as possible), you can always collect and send it by mail. At the very least, you can take a photo, and only then, if the specialist says that there is no way without a copy, collect it and send it. In general, I completely agree with Drakus: the criterion of easy determination can only serve as an excuse for those who do not want to bother with nature protection seriously with all its difficulties, but only intend to simplify the working conditions for their imitation as much as possible.

Populations of hard-to-identify species must first be identified. And if there are no experts on them in the region, then I am afraid that they will remain unidentified.

This is a question of having a normal workflow and the desire of specific people on the ground to take a responsible approach to their work (read-contact specialists, even if they are relatively far away). If they don't want to, it should be their problem, not the problem of populations or specialists.

In addition, in order for a hard-to-identify species to appear in the CC of a region, it must already be in the region where it was previously discovered and identified by a specialist. In other words, at least one habitat is guaranteed, which, as a result of including this species (if, of course, it meets the criteria) will be protected. Where they will find it next, or supposedly find it, is a secondary question.

If the teacher defines incorrectly and "discovers" a new habitat of the Red Book species, I don't see any trouble in this. In any case, all indications for inclusion in the next edition of the CC will be reviewed by whom? That's right, again, a specialist.

Oh, if only...

If you have an instance , you can check it. If there is no instance , then there is no find.
I understand that this is in an ideal world, but it seems that we should approach the ideal, and not lower the ideal to our current situation.

And if there is an instance, but the localization is questionable? For example, the Crimean apollo, who was listed in the CC of Ukraine all the years of independence, and the Caucasian scorpion from near Odessa, which was obviously simply embarrassed to be included there.

This post was edited by ENO-12/25/2016 15: 26

If there is only one specimen, it is unlikely to pass the IUCN criteria, because there is no population-it will be DD.

I don't know about the IUCN, but the CCU didn't mind. Since insects are usually not found in nature in one joke, logically finding a single specimen automatically implies the presence of a population in that place. There may be some nuances only with active migrants on the fly and cases of obvious single deliveries. By the way, there were more than one scorpions, the only question is whether the label collector did not mix up (before that, she collected somewhere in Central Asia).

There was a downright anecdotal situation-in Penza we found a population of the Caucasian beetle, which is even listed in the CC of Dagestan....

There was a downright anecdotal situation-in Penza we found a population of the Caucasian beetle, which is even listed in the CC of Dagestan....

Does the "Caucasian beetle" have a scientific name?Or is it not customary for Penza entomologists to do this?

This is like you need to guess for yourself what kind of beetle we are talking about. Surely not Rhaesus serricollis?

in Penza, we found a population of the Caucasian beetle, which is even listed in the CC of Dagestan....

This is like you need to guess for yourself what kind of beetle we are talking about. Surely not Rhaesus serricollis?

Well, what is it? Do we accept bids? I bet on Euidosomus acuminatus, which, of course, certainly does not pull on the exclusively "Caucasian beetle".
However, in the KK of Dagestan there is no one - the same Selatosomus cruciatus is offered for protection.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 12/27/2016 01: 33

Carabus (Eucarabus) cumanus Fischer, 1823

Red Data Book of the Republic of Dagestan. Rare and endangered species of animals and plants. (1998)
Makhachkala: Dagestan Book Publishing House 338 p

The taxon is listed as Carabus cumanus
Category I: Very rare.
Distribution: Caucasus, especially the western part (Cherkessk, Abkhazia, Kuban, Kazbek, Borjomi, Stavropol). In Dagestan: Snegovoy, Andiysky, Bogossky ridge, Salatau.
Lifestyle: On near forest and subalpine meadows, fields. Shelters under rocks. The body is oval in shape, the head is normal, the eyes protrude strongly, the wings are normal in length, the chin is long, and the frontal pit is deep. There is a dotted line. Length 20-24 mm. An active predator, it is often found on crops of corn, potatoes, etc. cultures.
Population: The total population is unknown, the highest density is observed at an altitude of about 1200-1700 m. on very gentle slopes, settled meadows, fields, especially in the presence of shelters (stones, bushes). Causes of population change-disturbance of habitat conditions (grazing, draining of slopes, removal of rocks from slopes during cultivation)
Limiting factors Intensive grazing and chemical treatments.
Security measures Prohibition of trapping. Selecting a security area. Attracting it to the fields is facilitated by piles of stones along the edge of the field.
References: Lutschnic, 1911; Abdurakhmanov, 1983; E. Ilyina, 1999.
Compiled by G. M. Abdurakhmanov, additional by E. Ilyina


Carabus cumanus. Caucasian endemic. Polytope view. It is found in foothill and mountain forests, subalpine and alpine meadows up to the subnival belt. In 2009, the maximum density was observed in the subalpine zone. The dynamics of adult activity at different ages are shown in Figure 4, a. The graph data confirm the idea that C. cumanus has a one-year life cycle. The maximum number of beetles occurs in mid-June. Around the same time, egg laying begins. Full development from egg to adult is approximately 70-80 days.

This post was edited by Penzyak - 27.12.2016 11: 42

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Kumanus was found in Penza? Is this a joke?

Kumanus was found in Penza? Is this a joke?

In my opinion, there are two options - the first is "fake" labeling, the second is delivery and acclimatization. As it turned out, Carabus are well imported and settled, which is worth C. nemoralis, which has reached the Issyk-Kul basin...

I've heard that archplects were found in the South. In the Urals, then it turned out that the students were joking

There was a downright anecdotal situation-in Penza we found a population of the Caucasian beetle, which is even listed in the CC of Dagestan....

  Carabus (Eucarabus) cumanus Fischer, 1823

Oleg, did you personally collect it, or is it still student fees? If the latter - sorry, to say that it is hard to believe-will be soft. If the fact is personally verified by you, and we are talking about the population (regular fees) - this is definitely worthy of publication. Where is she?

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 12/27/2016 22: 46

Victor, colleagues, happy New Year!
I don't have time to deal with nonsense and falsification of facts - storytellers and "oo vtirateli". I found out about this ground beetle only last week - the series has been safely standing with my friend in his training camps since 2009... He caught about ten beetles, and for 3 days while periodically digging worms in one place for fishing, he saw another 20 pieces in nature (they quickly hid in last year's foliage) and dug glasses there, beetles came across. He collected them after the May holidays in the floodplain forest-details in the publication. We could not determine the species - or rather, they did not believe our definition, so they sent it to Yegorov, he is K. V. Makarov. The details are in the article - but probably first in May we will search for them, study them, and observe them...

Question: where does the northern and eastern boundaries of the range of this species lie? Does it exist in the Krasnodar Territory??

C. cumanus was once quite common in Mezmai (Krasnodar Krai) .

See the article for more details...

Well, we are waiting.

 
Question: where does the northern and eastern boundaries of the range of this species lie? Does it exist in the Krasnodar Territory??

Distribution: http://carabidae.org/taxa/cumanus-fischer-1823 In the Krasnodar Territory, there is definitely one.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 12/28/2016 23: 54

If indeed Carabus (Eucarabus) cumanus Fischer, 1823, and even in such numbers, this is a very interesting fact. Cumanus, where it is found, is quite common, therefore tenacious. Acclimatization is quite possible if someone brought a sufficient amount.

Here is what they write about the settlement of this species to the east...

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