Cryptoentomology

And where is Danchenko???

In Moscow (was at least).
By the way, something from the literature with his participation was found:

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 23.01.2010 23: 44

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I have a lot of his literature.
just wondering if he reads this forum. I remember having some interesting conversations with him

I agree: the person is quite famous, and if he read it, I think he responded a long time ago (apparently he doesn't read it after all).

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 24.01.2010 10: 46

I was told a funny story about our entomologists and the foreigners who financed the expedition, who came to Russia to study Bigfoot. A well-known entomologist, who took a direct part in the expedition without hesitation, so as not to upset foreigners, took a child's foot print at night and inherited it with a dummy...

And where is Danchenko???

Danchenko defends an excellent candidate's thesis on the 20th.

I don't know about the others, but for me our Furcula crested birds are like yetis. Especially, bicuspis and bifida. How many times have I turned on the light bulb - at least one. Forage plants - a whole forest.
So much for cryptonotodontology

I remember Kaabak's "I'm Going to Look for..." describes an encounter with what he believes to be a giant peacock-eye in the forests of Primorye.
Even in various near-entomological literature, it is mentioned that we have stick insects in the foothills of the Caucasus.
And a relative told me a few years ago that in the early 90's he saw a bee in our dacha, which is very similar in description and behavior to the xylocope.
In my opinion, the most plausible story of these three is about xylocopa.
That's all the "cryptoentomological" facts that came to mind.

This Saturnia was seen not only by Kaabak, but also by the local entomologist Meshcheryakov. And also: darted to the screen, "jumped" and disappeared into the night! Perhaps this species is reluctant to fly into the light. We need to look for caterpillars!

Caterpillars also need to be found first.

[quote=Wild Yuri,18.04.2010 00:22]

last year I caught both bifida and bicuspis (it is the most widespread in our country) at the light! Morozzz - can I send you a bunch if you need it, or do you want to catch it yourself?

last year I caught both bifida and bicuspis (it is the most widespread in our country) at the light! Morozzz - can I send you a bunch if you need it, or do you want to catch it yourself?

The thing is, I want to catch it myself.

There was an article in an American butterfly magazine. Only a few copies of one night owl (I don't remember the name) were listed in collections for a century, and when they began to bring out different caterpillars, it turned out to be a normal and almost background appearance! And I've also read on the topic more than once: many species do not fly to the light and even avoid it. Others - only on ultraviolet light.

A lot of types of scoops fly only on all sorts of unkindness - that is, on odorous baits, they do not fly to the light at all.
Glassworms fly to pheromone traps, so there are none, one or two per season, and you can catch hundreds of pheromones in a day. I didn't try it very well myself...
There are cunning types of bears. For example, Dodia Sazonova. It is caught only in the altitude range of 20 meters. According to my observations. Maybe not, but I've been there many times. You go down the slope and already know by the color that they will fly here right now. You start to look closely. But no, I went 10 steps and they already belong overboard.
There are a lot of tricky types.
There are the most cunning types of Eneis. They're sitting on the very crest of a mountain. On a terrible blowout. This is how swallowtails sometimes behave. So we found a nominative Elvezi in the Altai, and another new Elvezi in Southern Mongolia.
The most cryptoentomological thing is the bear Menetriye. It's made of butterflies. Range from Leningrad to the Amur region. And catch it!

  
The most cryptoentomological thing is the bear Menetriye. It's made of butterflies. Range from Leningrad to the Amur region. And catch it!

A friend caught 4 specimens a few years ago at Suntar Khayyata in Yakutia. But there's a sanctuary and "cryptozoological" huntsmen springing up out of nowhere.

A friend caught 4 specimens a few years ago at Suntar Khayyata in Yakutia. But there's a sanctuary and "cryptozoological" huntsmen springing up out of nowhere.

I think this is due to a certain amount of luck, rather than the system. I've heard of it in the Burei Valley... This whole wave of life is an accident...

That's where the real cryptoentomology is:

http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/world1d.htm

And again Primorye!

it goes without saying!
and Cupis too Primorye

You don't need to go to the end of the world in the Russian Federation to search for entomological features. Here is an example of the Pinker's scoop, Dichonia pinkeri (Kobes, 1973). A rare mesophilic species. In Russia, it is known from finds in the Rostov and Penza regions. So our collector Shlykov O. V. (1988, "List of butterflies of the Penza region" EO) caught her in the light of 27.08.1972 on the outskirts of Penza. I do not provide photos (I promised not to distribute them), a copy should be kept in ZINA, Alexey Matov determined.

I don't include photos (I promised not to distribute them),

May I ask why this secrecy is so high?

You don't need to go to the end of the world in the Russian Federation to search for entomological features. Here is an example of the Pinker's scoop, Dichonia pinkeri (Kobes, 1973). A rare mesophilic species. In Russia, it is known from finds in the Rostov and Penza regions. So our collector Shlykov O. V. (1988, "List of butterflies of the Penza region" EO) caught her in the light of 27.08.1972 on the outskirts of Penza. I do not provide photos (I promised not to distribute them), a copy should be kept in ZINA, Alexey Matov determined.

I clicked thank you incorrectly. Photo of Dichonia pinkeri (Kobes, 1973) is available on this site http://www.noctuidae.de/page/hauptseite/index.html

It's just that the photo of scoops Pinker is NOT MINE, and the copy itself is NOT stored with ME.

Thank you clicked consciously, and the photo of the view should be in the new book Poltava and K* on scoops of the south-West of the Russian Federation. YES, and this species (a double species) cannot be cured by appearance from similar species...

This post was edited by Penzyak - 05.05.2010 08: 42

May I ask why this secrecy is so high?

Just a photo of Pinker's scoops not foe,

So why is it classified by the author?

Gennady, I am not used to using other people's data (be it photos or materials) at my own discretion (without the author's knowledge) - that's how I am a conservative and an admirer of old traditions.

Some old memories, if you'll excuse me. Drawing on their considerable experience in hunting insects (especially in the study of rarities) A VERY big place has His Majesty the occasion! Real-life example:
In the early 80s of the last century (sounds creepy) As a schoolboy, I spent all my summer holidays in the village. I remember there was a period when we fished on the grasshopper in the second half of the summer and very often caught it-we were looking for straight-winged birds for this purpose. I don't remember exactly when (July-early August) I caught mares and grasshoppers on a steep slope-I already had a clear idea of what could get caught and where (I had been practicing for many years...). So one day I came across a specimen of a filly (the antennae were definitely short) so unusual and outlandish that I even forgot about fishing. I showed it to my friends and adult fishermen - no one has ever seen such a specimen!?? The insect was covered with a solid shell (its front and back parts) so-well, the head of some knight's horse is straight and not a Central Russian filly!? Unfortunately, one of my friends started playing that copy. But, no matter how much I later caught erect-winged birds (and even then specifically searched) in that place as an adult, I still can't find them!!? I even looked through special literature with pictures - there is something similar in the deserts... But not in the Middle Volga region???

This post was edited by Penzyak - 05.05.2010 08: 33

Penzyak

Did she look like this beast?

This is a pamphagid from the genus Asiotmethis (we have two species). In principle, we can assume that the specimen miraculously "flew" into the middle lane from the south (reaching the Ulyanovsk region)



This post was edited by Dracus-05.05.2010 11: 20

Eugene, I also thought at the beginning whether the desert locust is C. tauricus Tarb.!?? But, as I remember (I have a good visual memory) in "my" specimen, the pattern on the head and pronotum was more pronounced morphologically!? And then there are some growths (we haven't found such a beast yet). Yes, and his flight to us is very doubtful! I recall a recent mention in an article on straight-winged birds of Tatarstan about the discovery of their dybki - so they said that it warmed up well, it appeared! Yeah, I crawled up, damn it...

This post was edited by Penzyak-05.05.2010 12: 24

Another" yeti": Alpine rosalia near Voronezh! Caught several times. I wonder if anyone has ever come across it in other regions of European Russia?

For that matter, the presence of the Trabala vishnou cocoonworm in Primorye falls into the category of chupacabras and sasquatches. at in. From what it is given for the Slavs, from V. S. Murzin I had to hear that it is almost in Gornotaezhnaya.
And for the Moscow region, a real Yeti can be recognized as Parnassius apollo, Hipparchia semele and not only.

This post was edited by Morozzz - 06.05.2010 23: 15

Pash, in the first paragraph - about whom?

Pash, in the first paragraph - about whom?

fixed it.
Here, even on the forum pages it's like yeti

Another" yeti": Alpine rosalia near Voronezh! Caught several times. I wonder if anyone has ever come across it in other regions of European Russia?

I saw it in the collection, saw photos and heard about its collections in the area of Samara Luka repeatedly.

  
So one day I came across a specimen of a filly (the antennae were definitely short) so unusual and outlandish that I even forgot about fishing. I showed it to my friends and adult fishermen - no one has ever seen such a specimen!?? The insect was covered with a solid shell (its front and back parts) so-well, the head of some knight's horse is straight and not a Central Russian filly!?

Maybe an onkonotus with a bitten mustache?
http://macroid.ru/showphoto.php?photo=12342

This post was edited by Fornax13-08.05.2010 00: 10

No, I know sevchukov, but we have found only one species so far - and you have found two species in the Ulyanovsk region.

A friend told me that he saw a morpho butterfly near Tverskaya (Moscow). This is really cryptoentomology!

 

Some old memories, if you'll excuse me. Drawing on their considerable experience in hunting insects (especially in the study of rarities) A VERY big place has His Majesty the occasion! Real-life example:
In the early 80s of the last century (sounds creepy) As a schoolboy, I spent all my summer holidays in the village. I remember there was a period when we fished on the grasshopper in the second half of the summer and very often caught it-we were looking for straight-winged birds for this purpose. I don't remember exactly when (July-early August) I caught mares and grasshoppers on a steep slope-I already had a clear idea of what could get caught and where (I had been practicing for many years...). So one day I came across a specimen of a filly (the antennae were definitely short) so unusual and outlandish that I even forgot about fishing. I showed it to my friends and adult fishermen - no one has ever seen such a specimen!?? The insect was covered with a solid shell (its front and back parts) so-well, the head of some knight's horse is straight and not a Central Russian filly!? Unfortunately, one of my friends started playing that copy. But, no matter how much I later caught erect-winged birds (and even then specifically searched) in that place as an adult, I still can't find them!!? I even looked through special literature with pictures - there is something similar in the deserts... But not in the Middle Volga region???

Or maybe saxetania?

In the North-West, such a strong impression can be made, for example, by a female or larva of Psophus stridulus.

Oops! Yes, you're absolutely right - I look with my sidelong eye at her photo, and it's amazing how the older nymph-ognevka toko-who has disappeared to saxetania looks like! Lessa isko 100 grams probably, maybe for saksaulovoyu gorbatku will go

Cryptoentomological species Adoretops plexus (Zoubkoff, 1833)
A mysterious beast. It was described by Zubkov from the Northern Caspian region, and Kraatz later even described a separate genus for it. It was included in the Fauna of the USSR and is mentioned in all modern catalogues of the group. As a result of mutual rewriting, its range already includes Western Kazakhstan and the south of the European part of Russia... Many mention that the species is rare. In reality, the last and only person who saw him was Zubkov himself. Its types are lost, the name "hangs".
From cryptoentomological finds: the Red Data Book of the Stavropol Territory published a map of the finds of Osmoderma eremita, which was allegedly collected in the Stavropol Territory at two points.
And if you look at the articles and monographs of the newly minted entomologist R. S. Sigida-then where is Sandersen there; -) .

Wow, how lively they are discussing mythical insects here...
On, last week. On Saturday afternoon, I watched a film about Chupacabra in the Nizhny Novgorod region on NTV. In some places, he laughed heartily! Especially touched by the plot that these evil spirits suck the blood of chickens-yes, any good hunter will tell you that ferrets or other martens do this... I was somewhat surprised by the skeleton found by hunters at the beginning of winter in the forest...
And the forester's story about two flocks of Chupacabras in the forests of Nizhny Novgorod region completely finished me off. By the way, I remembered the case described by A. K. Arsenyev in the Far Eastern taiga about a strange bird - we went to the Internet and there are already a lot of modern cases about the "giant" bat from Mount Pidan. And here we are talking about insects that no one can catch... Like that joke about the elusive cowboy Joe...

About Saga pedo this was probably an article by S. Gordienko. "New in dybka zoogeography" is complete nonsense, there can be nothing new in zoogeography. There is an expansion of the range. Climate warming is generally an incorrect term in my opinion. More successful is "changing some climatic parameters". He also pointed out such butterflies for Tatarstan that many people did not even see them except for him . For the first time in 2010, we caught one species of marigold (sorry, I'm not a lepidopterist, I can't remember the name for a moment), which he indicated almost before the Order. We found it on the border with the Orenburg region.

.. Aha, the steppe dybka crawled (sorry, it came-it's also "on foot") to Tatarstan, expanding its range...

If an insect does not have wings, this does not mean that the range of this species is static in time and space. The literature indicates that since 2000, dybka has been observed in neighboring Bashkiria. If it had been there for 30-50 years before, why hadn't anyone noticed it for so long? With such a" horse " size by Insecta standards, the probability of this seems controversial to me...