Disaster

Yesterday's photo of me from behind on the ledge of Beshtau Mountain, which I called "On the edge of the abyss", turned out to be prophetic....

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Ghost-and there is no chtoli? Or does it not help in such cases, the disk is formatted?

Andreas, I understand and sincerely sympathize. Get strong. I know that there are specialists who can restore deleted information on the hard disk. There are some of them in the relevant expert institutions. But as far as you have the ability to reach them... Honestly, I don't know how to comfort you. That's why I immediately dump all my information from my computer to disks and store it separately. You never know...

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 02/18/2009 21: 32

So, tovarisch, do not despair! We take utilities for restoring deleted data (easy recovery, etc. can be Googled) and start methodically restoring all the information-doc files go with a bang, pictures are also possible - but, however, with file names I will be shoals. My file system somehow flew off, the first feeling was shock, and then nothing, I restored the most important thing. I hope everything will be fine, and you should not save on backups, at least on blank disks, and hard drives now cost a small amount of money.

- Thank you friends.... - all the information was on disk "C".
- I'll talk to 2 specialists I know tomorrow... "And I'll tell you; - And then I'm still with the computer on " You " ...

GetDataBack also seems to be a good utility for data recovery. The main thing is that you don't need to write anything else to your computer right now, because you can erase clusters that had information on them. And of course, for the future-you need to throw information on dvd-blanks, or on flash drives, or on a separate hard drive - all this is now quite affordable.

It's not a big deal. This can be recovered from file chains. Everyone knows that even after formatting, you can extract information from the disk.

The main thing for you is to calm down now, otherwise you will make things difficult. There are a lot of "craftsmen" around who do more harm than good. Do not rush, consult with friends, read articles on the Internet about this.

And most importantly, before you do anything, create an image of your disk. I will not advise you how to do this: there are a lot of editors and in case of an error, you can lose everything.

So calm down - your data can be restored-sit down calmly at Yandex and search there for "how to create a hard disk image" or"cloning a hard disk". Create an image first, save it securely( you may need another hard drive to do this), and then take it to the workshop.
You can practice it yourself, BUT not with the disk itself, but with a copy of its image.

All this can even be done remotely by contacting a person via email. The main thing is to find a good specialist...

In general, for the future, we take the example of Mother nature (double helix DNA) and buy a second hard drive, duplicate the info there regularly + critical data on CD-ROMs.

PS: And correctly said Bolivar, do not do operations with files. Don't do anything at all, don't even boot from this hard drive. Do all operations on it remotely by connecting it as a Slave. Vopschem you love the second gesture is needed.

This post was edited by Alexander_bk-02/18/2009 22: 07

Thank you and thank you again for your moral support and useful information. - Tomorrow I will catch specialists.
"But right now I don't have the knowledge, patience, or nerves to dig up something on the Internet myself. - Therefore, I hope for the right steps and the path of those who understand this specifically.
- It's just a pity that this computer is someone else's. - The husband (who doesn't give a fuck about anything) of a crazy woman (with whom I live), whose son is constantly cut on it for 8 hours a day in shooting games, and hates me.
"As for ' duplicating information', I knew all about it. - But there is such a thing as the "Law of meanness"!!! - When exactly on the day when I bought the disks for this, and destroyed the old ones.....
- I will definitely show the specialist your wishes and advice, so as not to chop wood for sure!

Well how so
You can not let women near the computer, definitely! if they only do not know how to manage it, how can you get rid of viruses and remove all the necessary information? This bastard is clearly not the best (her) versed in computers.. 24 types of viruses are folders, text files, videos, photos, etc.)

Oh, Andreas, take heart! Work should not be wasted. Desperately try to restore everything!

What city do you live in? I think I can help, since data recovery is my job. Write to us grappa@list.ru

Andreas, I hope that you will restore everything, and for such lazy people as me, this incident is a good reminder.
So you've already done a good job.

Attention! Before restoring, IT IS IMPORTANT! Do not write anything to the disk from which the information was deleted, do not install any programs, etc. - otherwise you will completely destroy the information and will not be able to restore anything.

Either find a utility that works from a flash drive (for example, Recuva - less than 1 MB), or without installing from another disk partition, or connect the screw to another machine where the necessary program is already installed.

There are certain algorithms and equipment that are owned by people who are engaged in data recovery at a professional level. Neither tgo nor the other is and will never be freely available, as it is not cheap. The utilities available on the Network can be extremely small, and without basic knowledge, their use is very risky.
Here are some recent examples from my practice. When the highly respected A. V. Sviridov's hard drive died, he did not make any sudden movements, but contacted me. Thanks to the fact that no one touched the drive before me, I got the data in full. But his graduate student was not lucky - before me, she showed the dead drive to non-specialists, for some reason they opened the hermetic block - they could not get the data at all.
Contact professionals.

For your information: there are free programs available - http://www.recuva.com/ and they work well. But against opening the hermetic block, no paid super-programs will help

At the same time, by contacting a specialist, you can run into such a hacker who destroyed the information. So, the choice is up to the victim, IMHO.

In any case, you need to distinguish between PC and WC, working only on the first one.

I am an expert in the field of data recovery with more than ten years of experience. I've seen all sorts of things, and believe me - the most terrible things are created by dummies with this very "free" software.

Excuse me, what "dummies"? Users, or what? If you are an expert, respect your users.

It is definitely bad that after the events described, the computer continues to be used - all these "shooters" can make temporary files during operation and, accordingly, erase the "free space". In general, the disk should be removed immediately!

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 19.02.2009 19: 06

"Good evening." - I came to my senses (I was still awake by the way) only after lunch. - I called my cousin, a specialist in outdoor advertising, computer and web design, and a master of production of any seals and documents, up to the documents of the state treasury bank... - And he advised me a firm in our city, which I should contact. The wizard pulled out the hard drive and promised to do everything tomorrow evening if the extension failed after deleting the data.
- And the crazy woman who accused me of all the deadly sins (they say, a person deleted viruses (my JPG files), - since I infected 24 people(!!!) types of viruses from the Internet someone else's computer, which could have burned down from this"), instead of asking for forgiveness and offering my help (I stopped arguing), - skzala told me that no one wrote anything to the hard disk after the "treatment" did not write anything. - although her son, "taking a license prorama from a friend," restored what he could to me (no comments)...
- In general, we can only hope that now the master from the company will do and say.

well, you need to have an antivirus on your computer and everything will be OK.
Now the most lushly Avira - because it is free and protects the computer well.. Then no one has to say anything. And if this happens again, it's not viruses. and evil people. which out of spite remove and break butterflies )

and the computer can't burn down because of viruses! worm viruses can steal data, but they are difficult to catch. Ordinary worms just steal information from the computer.. How and why no one knows )

If you are careless about information, it is only a matter of time before something happens to you. You only have yourself to blame. Disks, sometimes, "fall" by themselves, without any deliberate intervention. And I didn't understand your logic - why was it necessary to destroy backup disks with information if no new ones were made? Did these backup disks burn your hands?

Andreas, I'm sorry! The CMOS itself was falling (ugh-ugh).
If non-unique data is missing (scans of books, packs, etc.), then the community can help, I hope.

PS. All the troubles happen exactly when you, lulled to sleep by prolonged calm, stopped making backups. Which I'll do today...

Andreas, I hope you can restore everything. In the end, some of your files were left on the forum.
PS When I read this topic, I immediately copied everything from Seb three times.

and I keep everything on disks and flash drives, otherwise you never know what...

I'm sorry, I've been in a similar situation myself, lost half of my personal photo archive. I hope everything will be ok.

- Thank you all for participating. "Especially the guest." "Cruel, hard, but true. _ But nevertheless there is this damned mystical "law of meanness "when" there is trouble-open the gate"
- Today I took the disk. - The wizard restored only 5%...................... - As it turns out-her son, who is studying to become a programmer, wrote down immediately after the information was deleted by the security guard-some programs that fell into an empty space destroying my phantoms without a trace. - It is interesting that the information was restored (5%) precisely in some scraps and pieces. - In some folder more - in some folder less. "Just a wipe." - And the master also told me that Djipeg files are infected with only one type of virus, which changes and spoils them; - and not " 24 " - as they found "through my fault" in the computer.

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- But now I'm still to blame for her, that her husband her last .....passes, - for the fact that "because of viruses" - "erased" his game "Civilization".........
- I didn't argue again , because I have the wrong background and upbringing. - And in the gut, everything shrank into a cold lump.....
- Tomorrow I will break through to the computer and see the insignificant remains of my torn-up long-term entomological base (I looked only at the master).
- Pakeda. - I DON't DRINK.....

Andreas, buy a flash drive and store your work on it, and not on the screw of SOMEONE ELSE's car. And periodically back up another CD-DVD. And you will be happy.

m-yeah.. Here, it seems, you can already say this ..
When there is someone to blame, it is certainly convenient. Moreover, if the relationship is not the warmest, then people who do not delve into your interests and are not burdened with your values position themselves as ideal targets..
But, I say it and repeat it again-BUT! It all depends on everything . and there are no accidents.
I also lost 2/3 of my previous life, probably due to my own stupidity. The photo album was distributed on 2 screws and both fucked up)
And it was possible to restore mostly just what was written to the disks)

So then..

Andreas, my sincere sympathy... I've had this myself twice. In 2003, a Fujitsu hard drive burned down a week after defending his dissertation (just lucky). As I became smarter, I put a fan on the screw (they were new then) and began to reset data more regularly. In 2007, a Samsung hard drive flew from an accidental blow to the system unit. In the latter case, it was the same law of meanness as yours. I dumped information on CD-RW, but rarely, and, as luck would have it, I succumbed to the persuasions of a friend to give him this disk for a while, to rewrite something (and cho, the info is hanging on the computer). In general, I still restore the information. Now - only regular resets to DVD and work with a 4-Gb flash drive with daily synchronization of files with the hard drive. The most reliable guardian is laser disks, especially duplicated ones and lying in different places (you never know what), for example, at home and at work. Forumchan's advice is exhaustive, so I'll put an end to it. PS. Completely collapsed screws, with the lid removed and framed under glass - a great wall decoration in the workplace. Both beautiful and edifying (sorry for the black humor).

"Yesterday, as a mockery, Baba's son copied my battered, now completely unusable formation into a blank and gave it to me. - "So that it does not prpala" when on Monday the next master "drive viruses" will come and install the "latest" anti-virus program. - After which I will "not be able to insert anything" (disks, flash drives, photo files) into a" foreign " computer if there are viruses on my media....
- I don't believe in this mess...
- And yesterday (this is just salt) - a woman told me that "This," (the irrevocable loss of my unique vital information) will be like a payment to her family for using their computer by me......................

This post was edited by Andreas - 02/21/2009 12: 12

Viruses - they are all new to appear, and antivirus software, despite all sorts of heuristic analyses, do not keep up with them. Indeed, there are widespread programs - "monitors" that automatically scan for viruses inserted CD and flash drives. If they are without glitches, then they will not do anything nasty - but sometimes they take harmless things for viruses. Maybe, by the way, just such an error occurred in this "master"... So the "woman" will also have to periodically update the antivirus databases - and better yet, keep track of what her son brings on flash drives...

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 02/21/2009 13: 44

In 2003, a Fujitsu hard drive burned down a week after defending his dissertation (just lucky).

Just lucky? Some years ago in St. Petersburg there was a mass death of Fujitsu hard drives. As it turned out later, they just delivered a defective batch. Aerobatics-hard drives fell after a little more than a year of operation, and the warranty period was just a year. Since then, I have a very specific attitude towards this company.

Just lucky? Some years ago in St. Petersburg there was a mass death of Fujitsu hard drives. As it turned out later, they just delivered a defective batch. Aerobatics-hard drives fell after a little more than a year of operation, and the warranty period was just a year. Since then, I have a very specific attitude towards this company.

So it was with him, for six months, although mostly in the summer, in the heat, a dozen eighty fujitsu fell. They're all the same age. Now only samsungs, quiet and tenacious.

- So I didn't understand, - if I work on our forum in the Internet salon, via the Internet on a flash drive bring viruses to my home computer, - then after updating or installing a cool antivirus program on it, - I can't even see it, let alone copy information from it to my home computer??? - And besides this, the information on the flash drive will disappear immediately???

nifiga. Antivirus software usually removes viruses, not all files )
By bringing viruses along with the flash drive, you can scan the flash drive first before copying anything from it.

Or maybe change the woman?

Or maybe change the woman?

"Women" in the posts of Andreas are mentioned very often. M. B. is it better to change the attitude towards women?

I would like to advise Andreas to get a laptop - but this requires financial investment, and I do not know his financial capabilities. For me, for example, now it would be no way (and a couple of years ago I managed to successfully spend the earnings). As for "women" - I would, if I were in such a situation, I'm afraid I haven't found such epithets yet... However, time will pass, Andreas will cool down - then let him think about what to do next and whether his environment is so monstrous. IMHO.

Just lucky? Some years ago in St. Petersburg there was a mass death of Fujitsu hard drives. As it turned out later, they just delivered a defective batch. Aerobatics-hard drives fell after a little more than a year of operation, and the warranty period was just a year. Since then, I have a very specific attitude towards this company.

About "lucky" - I made a dark joke about the fact that I could have been "lucky" before the defense. You are absolutely right - it was in the early 2000s that there was a Fujitsu case, of different volumes, of the same MPG series (Stanislav, thank you for reminding me!). It was a factory defect, and monotonous - when the screw was heated, the solder on one of the chips melted, and it failed. Fujitsu honestly changed them (screws), since they had, it seems, a 2-3-year warranty, but for this they had to be sent by mail to Japan themselves . Moreover, those who had a fan were faced with this problem clearly later. Sales companies also changed these screws under warranty (1 year, as usual). A friend of mine with a burned-out 5 Gb Fujitsu changed it this way completely free of charge to a screw of a different brand and with a larger volume. My 10 GB computer was bought in 2000 and collapsed in 2003. It is interesting that no repair company, even really sensible companies, took up soldering the schematics ("no, no - to the garden!!!, everything - to the garden!!!" (c)). Before this story, it was similar, but not for me, but for the owners of IBM screws with glass (sic!) plates. In terms of raising information , I raised everything from Fujitsu, and 99.99% from Gnusmas.

Or maybe change the woman?

I feel that soon, in line with this topic, someone will suggest hymenoplasty to do...

You are absolutely right - it was in the early 2000s that there was a Fujitsu case, of different volumes, of the same MPG series (Stanislav, thank you for reminding me!). It was a factory defect, and monotonous - when the screw was heated, the solder on one of the chips melted, and it failed. Fujitsu honestly changed them (screws), since they had, it seems, a 2-3-year warranty, but for this they had to be sent by mail to Japan themselves . Moreover, those who had a fan were faced with this problem clearly later.

Oh, I also remember very well the mass death of these screws. I myself had a 27Gb Fujitsu, I kept waiting for it to close. But I was very lucky - it is still alive in the old computer, although there are still bad's. True, perhaps the series is not MPG, but MPE - I don't remember anymore.

Off-topic question, sorry.
Colleagues, please consult us about the HDD reanimator program (I think it's spelled that way). They diligently advertise that it can raise (!) broken clusters. Is this possible or just another stupid thing?