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20.11.2009 20:36, Aleksey Adamov

The pro-philosopher Taught philosophy at our Ped very colorful uncle, one name is worth it-Livshits Rudolf Lvovich. Very smart guy, erudite, knows several languages, in general, a good girl. But a communist. And to the bone. Responsible secretary or something like that of the Communist Party branch in Komsomolsk-on-Amur (at that time). He would start a lecture, but after a few minutes he would be so engrossed in some lyrical digression that the topic of the lecture would rest. He talked a lot, and often pressed his knowledge (when you know what's going on (talking about communist principles, ideals, etc., but it's useless to argue how he will bend something like "Procrustean bed of his triads" or "fifth column", so I didn't even want to drink beer after the steam).

Yes, it's not that he is a "communist", just "colorful". We, at the Russian State University (SFU), also have such a "colorful" uncle - Boris Zinovievich Khidekel, a teacher of sociology and political science (at the biology and soil faculty), only he is a complete democrat...

I was very fond of arguing with him (my fellow students even gave me a bribe (condensed milk) to break the seminar)... it doesn't matter what political views the teacher has, as long as it is "colorful"... something useful will still arise in the minds of students.

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20.11.2009 20:54, Большаков, Тула

Are you sure of your definitions, Lavr? If I were you, I'd be more careful with my conclusions. I do not know what happened to Dr. Korotkova-I cannot judge, but I admit that you are right. I saw Mamontov's fees personally - not all of them, but some of them - and it doesn't look like they were completely falsified. However, seeing your peremptory attacks, I am beginning to think that in the case of Korotkova you have exaggerated too much.

Material in the form of butterflies, beetles, etc. our animals were collected at various times by more than 40 people. (almost all of them are listed in my and colleagues 'works, with thanks and other"scraping") - and by the way, Mamontov is also mentioned there, and more than once! And now Dorofeev's article is in print, where he is mentioned again. If you have carefully read what is written about his work (although to be precise, his work is only COLLECTED, and the WORK itself is written by Nikitsky), then it is not about HIS falsification, but about the possible accounting of falsifications by Korotkova and others. (for g.Tula is also located in the Serif Botanic District, on its northern border).
If you are so concerned about this and also have access to the Nikitsky collection (where Mamontov's main material is located), then let him give you protection, go to Tula and see the insect collection at the pedagogical university. And tell us what you saw there. True, the original labels there (from everywhere, including the Crimea and other regions) were replaced by freshmen on Korotkova's orders with "Tula" (hence the Crimean cicada in Tula, and all the "wild" species in city courtyards). But at least estimate whether there are the declared 90 thousand insects, including 25 thousand butterflies.
And what, and 12,000 mammoth beetles Nikitsky keeps at home?
How was the defense? It was planned on 19.11.

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20.11.2009 21:09, Yakovlev

Yes, it's not that he is a "communist", just "colorful". We, at the Russian State University (SFU), also have such a "colorful" uncle - Boris Zinovievich Khidekel, a teacher of sociology and political science (at the biology and soil faculty), only he is a complete democrat...

I was very fond of arguing with him (my fellow students even gave me a bribe (condensed milk) to break the seminar)... it doesn't matter what political views the teacher has, as long as it is "colorful"... something useful will still arise in the minds of students.

I totally agree with you. I studied at meda and heard a lot of similar things for a Russian with little education in terms of gentile surnames and first names. And I'm all for more of them. Israel Isakovich and Zinoviev Solomonovich. According to my calculations, they were the most beautiful and memorable teachers. I divide lecturers into 3 categories. The ones you write down, the boring idiots, and the ones after which you want to master a specialty or just become a little smarter. I consider the pedagogical effect of category 3 to be the most important. I remember the lectures of Zinovy Solomonovich Barkagan, now deceased, corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, WHO expert. After them, as an inveterate genetic entomologist, I wanted to leave the butterfly beetles and go to the field hospital, to the trench, to the clinic...
I firmly and maniacally believe that the charisma of the teacher, his brightness, his conviction in the RIGHTNESS of our cause are the most powerful motivators for the student. Grayness in high school is the worst of all!

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21.11.2009 1:46, Victor Titov

I firmly and maniacally believe that the charisma of the teacher, his brightness, his conviction in the RIGHTNESS of our cause are the most powerful motivators for the student. Grayness in high school is the worst of all!

Bravo! It is said - as a shot "in the bull's eye"! To this - neither add nor subtract!

And I'm all for more of them. Israel Isakovich and Zinoviev Solomonovich.

Why only them?

And Ivan Ivanych, Shamil Maratovich, Vakhtangov Murtazovich, etc.? The main thing is, as you absolutely correctly said, the scale of the teacher's personality, his charisma - and its presence should not be explained by belonging to a particular nationality. For example, I am proud that I had the good fortune to study under the Great Scientist, the brightest Man Pyotr Grigoryevich Oshmarin. What lectures, what practices!!!! And knowledge in all areas - well, just truly encyclopedic! Yes, with him, anyone who just thought about the possibility of replacing the original labels, would immediately fly upside down from the pulpit! Today's teachers of the YarSU biofac will forgive me - with all due respect, no one is even close to it now. Although-a Nizhny Novgorod man (by origin).
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/599988
http://www.uniyar.ac.ru/index.php/Ошмарин_Петр_Григорьевич

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21.11.2009 15:01, Aleksey Adamov

Well, it is impossible to analyze the actions of such "comrades" (who are not our comrades at all) on the basis of common sense. They have their own sense of life. I can only assume-for the sake of sensationalism, sir, "a new word in faunistics"!

By the way, people are not afraid to make such "sensations", since we don't know much about the distribution of species yet.

We (me, AlexEvs and another colleague) Here, about five years ago, Acinopus picipes (Carabidae) was caught, which is also given for the Crimea according to the "green" identifier (Kryzhanovsky 1965). We had a long argument with other colleagues. Then I got in touch with B. M. Kataev – who replied that he was "an ordinary animal, for the South of Eastern Russia." However, this species is still not listed in the list of ground beetles of Russia (ZINA website).
By the way, B. M. Kataev confirmed the correctness of the definition of Acinopus picipes, according to my copies.

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21.11.2009 17:48, Evgenich

By the way, B. M. Kataev is defending his dissertation in ZINA on November 24

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We wish him good luck

As for the dissertation abstracts, recently more and more often scoundrels come out who, while still students, followed the path of least resistance, and simply stole essays from the Internet, etc. sources, passing them off as your own. Their knowledge is lower than the baseboard, and they really want to become candidates. So they follow the well-trodden path even in their student years - they pass off other people's works as their own. In the institutes, the teachers apparently did not teach them that stealing is the most serious sin in science!!! And not only in science.
As recently as last Friday, one of these applicants brought us for review his abstract, which, by the way, was carefully hidden from us, and gave it to us under great pressure from us. We didn't know anything about his upcoming defense. He handed us the abstract and hurriedly disappeared.
Half of the materials in his thesis were stolen from our report. Moreover, in the text of the abstract, he did not even deign to correct the mistakes that we made in the report. Such things, damn it!!! One of his opponents is a good friend of mine, and I've already warned him. On Monday, we will write a corresponding letter to the dissertation council, where the defense should take place.
Tellingly, this is not the only case. A year ago, another graduate student who was assigned to us to collect material did exactly the same thing - he stole the materials of a report that provided detailed materials on the object of his research. We didn't let him defend himself.
One can only guess how many such applicants pass the protection unnoticed. And then, as correctly noted here, they create their own "schools", their own "students".

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21.11.2009 18:53, А.Й.Элез

The pro-philosopher Taught philosophy at our Ped very colorful uncle, one name is worth it-Livshits Rudolf Lvovich. Very smart guy, erudite, knows several languages, in general, a good girl. But a communist.

When you meet people like Livshits, you should once again think about your own past biases, and not "knock" until the end of the century. Of course, the immediately surprised "but" will not be replaced by "therefore", but at least such figures as Academician Alferov or Marshal Vasilevsky on the one hand and Borovoy on Novodvorskaya on the other hand will make the approach at least less sweeping.
But how small the world is! I've known Rudik for a hundred years. I even went with him to the Kolomna district of the Moscow region for night fishing (however, the old fisherman was quickly tired of entomology, and even the time zone difference, and he snored in the trailer almost all the time). In general, thank you so much for the story!

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21.11.2009 21:57, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

As recently as last Friday, one of these applicants brought us for review his abstract, which, by the way, was carefully hidden from us, and gave it to us under great pressure from us. We didn't know anything about his upcoming defense. He handed us the abstract and hurriedly disappeared.
Half of the materials in his thesis were stolen from our report. Moreover, in the text of the abstract, he did not even deign to correct the mistakes that we made in the report. Such things, damn it!!! One of his opponents is a good friend of mine, and I've already warned him. On Monday, we will write a corresponding letter to the dissertation council, where the defense should take place.
Tellingly, this is not the only case. A year ago, another graduate student who was assigned to us to collect material did exactly the same thing - he stole the materials of a report that provided detailed materials on the object of his research. We didn't let him defend himself.
One can only guess how many such applicants pass the protection unnoticed. And then, as correctly noted here, they create their own "schools", their own "students".

I don't ask the full name of the "hero", but in what institution?

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23.11.2009 20:32, Grigory - не энтомолог

As for the dissertation abstracts, recently more and more often scoundrels come out who, while still students, followed the path of least resistance, and simply stole essays from the Internet, etc. sources, passing them off as your own. Their knowledge is lower than the baseboard, and they really want to become candidates. So they follow the well-trodden path even in their student years - they pass off other people's works as their own. In the institutes, the teachers apparently did not teach them that stealing is the most serious sin in science!!! And not only in science.
As recently as last Friday, one of these applicants brought us for review his abstract, which, by the way, was carefully hidden from us, and gave it to us under great pressure from us. We didn't know anything about his upcoming defense. He handed us the abstract and hurriedly disappeared.
Half of the materials in his thesis were stolen from our report. Moreover, in the text of the abstract, he did not even deign to correct the mistakes that we made in the report. Such things, damn it!!! One of his opponents is a good friend of mine, and I've already warned him. On Monday, we will write a corresponding letter to the dissertation council, where the defense should take place.
Tellingly, this is not the only case. A year ago, another graduate student who was assigned to us to collect material did exactly the same thing - he stole the materials of a report that provided detailed materials on the object of his research. We didn't let him defend himself.
One can only guess how many such applicants pass the protection unnoticed. And then, as correctly noted here, they create their own "schools", their own "students".

What to do if such a "scientist" defended himself, received both a degree and a corresponding position? He calls any criticism slander and is ready to prove his case through the courts. And the judges have no time to understand the scientific subtleties: approved by the Higher Attestation Commission, so-a scientist.
This is not even a vicious circle, but an endless spiral...

23.11.2009 23:02, Evgenich

What to do if such a "scientist" defended himself, received both a degree and a corresponding position? He calls any criticism slander and is ready to prove his case through the courts. And the judges have no time to understand the scientific subtleties: approved by the Higher Attestation Commission, so-a scientist.

You need to fight, and fight not alone, but as a team!!! Last year, we miserably turned out the door of our institute such a parasite from science with the habits of a dictator. Doctor of Physical Sciences, former director of one of the Siberian Institutes, by the way. This doctor did not know the basic things: he did not know the specifics of our work, did not know how to draw up Contracts, did not own a computer, cell phone, etc. He came to the institute to suck up money, not disdaining to use the institute's stock materials under his sole name.

Some details of the confrontation between the team and the "doctor" can be found here:
http://www.zaks.ru/new/archive/view/50021-20
I recommend reading the comments

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20.01.2010 20:10, Фиалка трехцветная

And why is it possible to post only abstracts in this topic for discussion? After all, the abstract is written when the work is mostly already done. At this stage, it is already difficult to change anything, because there are deadlines for protection and field seasons have already been completed. And if suddenly the experts of the abstract talk like this, and come to the conclusion that the material is not enough or that the researcher has missed the consideration of any problem in his work, there is little that can be corrected. It seems to me that the topic was created not in order to criticize the bud. candidate to the nines, showing him that his work is worthless, but in order, on the contrary, to help future candidates write decent works, so that many special experts would speak out and make comments, amendments and point out shortcomings and shortcomings. mistakes, because the opinion of one manager is good, but the opinion of 5-7 specialists, each of whom will see some shortcomings , is even better. Isn't that right? So wouldn't it be better to discuss individual blocks of future dissertations before writing the abstract?..I think ta5's kind of help would be invaluable!!!!

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20.01.2010 23:55, Evgenich

Olga, I wrote you a reply, but the topic flew off in an unknown direction. I'm writing again.
I totally agree with Proctos.
The candidate for an academic title is not a schoolboy or even a student who is being led by the hand. They must prove that they are able to work independently: they know the literature on the topic, have erudition, possess techniques, and determine the goal (for what?) and set tasks (how?) to implement it, draw the right conclusions, and so on. During the preparation of the dissertation, the candidate may turn to specialists for advice on a specific issue. This is welcome. However, I would like to remind you that one of the criteria for evaluating a dissertation is the independence of the applicant. You propose a collective discussion of sections of the candidate's dissertation before the defense. But in this case, it will no longer be his job. Thoughts, ideas, corrections are someone else's, and in the dissertation they will be passed off as their own!!!

You can't do that. What kind of scientist is this?

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21.01.2010 0:30, PVOzerski

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Discussion of ideas, criticism - this is not the same as writing a dissertation based on the theses of the customer. But is it always worth putting out raw ideas for everyone to see? I'm not even talking about the temptation to take on these ideas (although someone may succumb to them). It can be a problem even if all moral norms are observed. Just imagine: researcher A is developing a topic, there is still a lot of work ahead - and suddenly on the forum he reads the rudiments of a work that intersects with his topic, proposed for discussion by researcher B. And how should A and B build relationships with each other now-especially if A has significantly more work done?

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21.01.2010 1:25, Фиалка трехцветная

Of course, I was referring to the discussion of individual specific narrow points, and not the whole sections - it's a pity that they didn't understand me.
My supervisor is a botanist, so I do everything myself in entomology anyway)))) My idea was that the volume of entomological literature, even on individual topics, is so large (in Russian and foreign literature) that it is unlikely that you will be able to master all this in 4 years. All the same, there are always moments that you do not know thoroughly (this applies even to doctors of science of any profile). By the way, my idea is confirmed at least by the fact that questions on this forum are asked not only by me))), but even by specialists.

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