Share information about catching in Papua New Guinea

As far as I know, fishing and export of any fauna in any condition is strictly prohibited.The laws are harsh and there are no indulgences for foreigners.

If about irian (Indonesian part)- no problem - the problem is knowing the crocs, where and what to catch. In the jungle, you can climb for months and not see anything!!! Absolutely nothing. Papuan children eat insects (only children!!!!) . You can buy them for a penny (mostly stick insects and beetles). There are no international flights to Irian ( or there were no flights 3 years ago) from Sumatra. take the guide tracker at the airport. no way without them. grub is not included in their price. you will have to feed yourself, you can give what remains after you. take strong shoes and a lot of Band-Aid - blood gushes at a small cut. like a dead boar. export without any problems. the main thing on arrival is to pay some money to the police. tracker guides will tell you everything. be careful with the cars, they're really dead. everything on Irian is three times more expensive than on the other islands. shop in the city guides will carry everything themselves. Papuans don't know the value of money. they can charge 10,000,000 bins for a stickman.
in short, if you have something specific to ask - wellcome. I haven't been to Png. A friend told me. that even in Port Moresby, it's best not to go out at night. all hotels are fenced with thorns. but whores bring free

On the Zin website, there is a report about the expedition of D. Telnov, not quite the same, but still...
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/maluku1.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/maluku2.htm

Dear swerig,
I sincerely appreciate your valuable information. Any additional questions:

1. Neponyatka with permitami-they can only be obtained in Jayapura and Jakarta, or you can on arrival in Manokwari (this is about paying the police money)? Or do you mean a bribe for the opportunity to take it out?

2. How will the guide react to the fact that I will swing a net in front of his eyes? He might want to turn me in to the police later. Or do the guides not care, as long as they pay for their services?

3. Which airport is better to take a guide - in Jakarta or Manokwari (In Sumatra or already in Irian Jaya)?

4. What is the regime in the Arfak Mountains Nature Reserve?

5. Are there any police posts on the jungle roads and how do the police look at people with nets?

6. Limit yourself to Lariam or get another yellow fever shot? Is there any danger in the water in the hotel (amoebas, etc.)? It is necessary to lie down a little after flights.

If someone has had experience fishing in New Guinea (West Papua)-please share. The place is not enough to say, abandoned. So any first-hand information is worth its weight in gold. Specifically interested in:
- the attitude of local (people and authorities) to fishing;
- Security checks for local flights in West (Indonesian) Papua;
- police control in cities and jungles;
- the region of the trip is Manokvari. Arfak Nature Reserve surroundings.

Sergey, as they say, nothing personal, but still very curious to know who you work for, or at least in what field?

Associate Professor-I teach economics, plus a bit of business in the field of audit and accounting services.

Dear swerig,
I sincerely appreciate your valuable information. Any additional questions:

1. Neponyatka with permitami-they can only be obtained in Jayapura and Jakarta, or you can on arrival in Manokwari (this is about paying the police money)? Or do you mean a bribe for the opportunity to take it out?

2. How will the guide react to the fact that I will swing a net in front of his eyes? He might want to turn me in to the police later. Or do the guides not care, as long as they pay for their services?

3. Which airport is better to take a guide - in Jakarta or Manokwari (In Sumatra or already in Irian Jaya)?

4. What is the regime in the Arfak Mountains Nature Reserve?

5. Are there any police posts on the jungle roads and how do the police look at people with nets?

6. Limit yourself to Lariam or get another yellow fever shot? Is there any danger in the water in the hotel (amoebas, etc.)? It is necessary to lie down a little after the flights.

Since you are from Moscow, do not be too lazy to drive to the Bird Market and talk to Boris Zhuravlev at the entomological store. As far as I remember, he went to the exact places you're going to this spring. According to him, not everything is sweet there and there are problems with guides, equipment, local population and fishing spots. It is better to call in advance (phone number on the website) and ask about the presence of Boris ain Moscow and in the store.

Boris Arkadyevich's business card is just lying in front of me
I was going to call him the other day. Only he was in Borneo in the spring. And Borneo and Irian are completely different regions of Indonesia.

Boris Arkadyevich's business card is just lying in front of me
I was going to call him the other day. Only he was in Borneo in the spring. And Borneo and Irian are completely different regions of Indonesia.

He told me about a trip to Indonesia's Papua, if I remember correctly.

But even the "papuan" knows how to catch in the jungle...

And why is he interested in the fabric is bright red, maybe he's a communist?

Those who were butterflies in a previous life say: "Butterflies can distinguish between red, yellow and green."..

What do you think about the fact that butterflies are also communists:


This guy is also a communist:


I'm not laughing. Scour the jungle for a month in a muddle, return home without a trophy, and then look at these photos. You'll cry !!! After all, all you have to do is spread out a rag.

Boris Arkadyevich's business card is just lying in front of me
I was going to call him the other day. Only he was in Borneo in the spring. And Borneo and Irian are completely different regions of Indonesia.

Dear Sergey, Zhuravlev really was in Papua (in Irian, in the Sentani region) in the spring on my tip! In addition, he went immediately after the Sinyaev-Romanenko-Zamesov expedition, which worked for two months (December-January) in the same place, plus the central territories. I can give you the coordinates of the person on Irian who will arrange everything for you. Write to my email address: entoterra@mail.ru.

I apologize for the offtop.
Only birdwings fly on red cloth? Or is it also relevant in the conditions of Siberia?

I didn't check it myself... Who do you want to attract there? If there aren't enough colors and the object is sailboats, it should work.
Everything has its own characteristics. Thus, in the Pamirs, male avtokrators "pecked" well on a piece of toilet paper on a stick stuck in the ground.

I didn't think that the Parnassians could be lured.
other species of this genus will fly to something similar? tenedius, Eversmann for example?

Well, with Eversmans, it's not such a problem to catch without bait. Here are the autocrats and some SSPs. charltonius (for example, mistericus) very quickly fly on steep slopes. So it is very difficult here without bait.

So I came back from West Papua (Papua Borat).
In principle, everything is not very complicated... And birdwings are also not difficult to find (Papuans with red nets are a clear sign of their presence nearby).
Butterflies:




Competitor:

Vehicle (oddly enough, but not worse than a jeep properla on very blurry mountain roads):

Simple "Ryazan guys":


This post was edited by Sergey Korolev - 05.09.2009 12: 41

If any of the forum participants decide to go to West Papua , I strongly recommend that you contact me for advice. I'm sick!!!
All travelers and butterfly catchers in Papua follow the "popular" law invented by the Papuans that whites without a guide should not go anywhere, drive a car on their own. And everywhere they have "pajak" - that is, a tax for passing through the territory of " kampung "(village). I managed to talk to a member of the Papuan parliament (who sits in Jakarta) - of course, there is no official law.
I personally drove everywhere myself, walked around the lands without guides and interpreters (although the province of Manokwari, the Arfak Mountains are not such impassable territories. In the interior of the island, Papuans can be more aggressive). When an impudent, trinketty face just demanded "pajak" - I always answered:" saya tidak tahu, " - that is,"I don't understand shit." For 3 weeks, I gave only 15,000 rupees (45 rubles) to the trinkets.
DON'T FEED THE PAPUANS A LOT OF MONEY. THEY GET USED TO IT QUICKLY!
Some nature lovers (Japanese, Dutch) give Papuans 50-100 pupaars a day just like that! After such tourists, it is very difficult to send local golodran. Don't teach people to get paid just for living on the land. LABOR MADE OF ... (we observe political correctness, you know who) of a PERSON. Let them learn to work, not extort money!

Judging by the abundance of red in the clothes of "ordinary Ryazan residents", these are the most important bird-wing catchers.
But seriously, you yourself have tried to catch butterflies on the red color, which in addition to birdwings comes across. Yes, and you can post photos of mattresses, it's terribly interesting!!!!

The material is in envelopes, so you won't be able to upload photos - you can't see anything.
And the red is not something that flies, but some species react. Almost all avian bats (paradisea, tithonus, priamus) plotted their trajectory over the red rag, but most of them were at an altitude of 3-5 meters. Therefore, the nets of Papuans are very long (see photo). Troides obloruacalatus reacted 50-50.
In addition to birdwings, various sailboats (Ulysses, Papilio lorquinianus) and graphiums reacted to red. But the same Papilio Ulysses and lorquinianus are much more effective to attract to the wings. Where Papuans are caught, all streams are littered with various levels of decomposition of the remains of wing baits.

When you get your hands on what you've collected, there will also be photos. Not now, but the time will come...

Not strictly by family, but still:

Delias-just sobbing looking at them. It is necessary to live there for months and catch only them. So, parasites, fly fast. Here's just what came up along the way. Alcides agathyrsus is not uncommon, but I have long dreamed of seeing it in nature:

Who's that?" Help:


This post was edited by Sergey Korolev - 13.09.2009 12: 46

And the beetles? where are the beetles?

And this is like
Miyana moluccana (Felder, 1860)

And where are the birdwings?

No need for birdwings! You never know...

No need for birdwings! You never know...

Come on! If the dead ones were lying around, why not show them?

Come on! If the dead ones were lying around, why not show them?

How can you prove it later?

Did you catch the light?

http://www.nagypal.net/foerstes.htm - this is for those who want photos of birdwings.
"I was passing by and didn't come in," some kind of kindergarten. If you do not put birdwing fishing on the stream like papuans (I am actively against this approach), then it is cheaper to buy them legally with all permits. I was more interested in observing them in nature, rather than catching them.

I didn't catch it in the light. You need to know or search for places. Time was short, so it would not be right to bother with the generator. But where I was (of course, it was places above 500 m not on the coast) on the headlights generally arrival 0.

PS This is not all the material, but only what I managed to make out. To be continued...

Sergey!!! Were there any satires???

Of course, there were satires, but not many interesting ones...

As a result of the trip, not a single beetle was injured -! joke!
But in a short period of time (21 days of pure time), without a clear goal, there is nothing to brag about beetles.

[url=http://www.nagypal.net/foerstes.htm] PS This is not all the material, but only what I managed to make out. To be continued...

Looking forward to it! Only show beetles if possible... Well, those that can't be bragged about...

Of course, there were satires, but not many interesting ones...

Damn for me, they are all interesting there!!!

I don't think that, for example, Melanitis leda is particularly interesting...

As I will sort, and there will be photos. Life isn't just about butterflies...

Hyalodia tenisquamosa was not found by chance???

No.