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Issues related to the legalization of catching and export of insects from abroad. Where should I apply for permissions?

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Keeper-of-the-Flame, 14.07.2010 20:47

Dear forumchane,

There are people who are interested in questions as much as possible-(reasonably)-possible legalization of the collection. I'm one of them. And for many participants, legalization issues will sooner or later become important. Of course, you can keep a collection with illegally obtained and exported copies in your closet for decades, but you can't socialize such a collection - that is, you can't display it in public and, accordingly, it will never become a subject of "legitimate" (literally and figuratively) pride.

In this regard, I suggest the topic: Rules for catching and exporting insects from over the hill. However, not only that. I, for example, do not know what and how you can catch even in the solar Federal Federation. I wanted, for example, to catch butterflies in ultraviolet light in some standard Central Russian forest (not a nature reserve) - is this possible? Or" according to the rules " permission is also required here?

In short, write here to anyone who knows anything about the rules of catching insects in any country and exporting them from any country. Which agencies of the respective countries should I apply to, how long to wait for permits, and whether they are needed for certain countries in general? Maximum specific legal information. I am sure that, with the exception of a few ghoul countries, fishing and exporting dry material (and this is strictly about breadcrumbs) to/from the vast majority of countries is LEGALLY POSSIBLE. You just need to know the rules, apply in advance for permits and not engage in amateurism.

For example, I am interested in all the CIS countries, especially Ukraine and Moldova, the Mediterranean (especially the Balkans, Blizh. East and North. Africa), Nepal, India, the United States, and Canada. But write about any country. By the way, how to legally import insects to the Russian Federation-too.

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04.10.2010 22:59, Трофим

So as not to mess up the topic. Quote from Viktor Sinyaev.
Dear Friends!!!
Wonderful News!!! So far, according to rumors, the plant quarantine has undergone a major reorganization. Insects disappeared from her "wards"!!!
You are welcome! Discuss this issue and find "primary sources" from July 2010.
In short: you can transport insects across the border!!! It seems, without permissions...
As in Civil Europe!, Grown up...!
I'm in the "Fields" in the North...

04.10.2010 23:00, Трофим

It all depends on the amount of material being transported. In addition to calves, there are many obstacles, such as:

- a phytosanitary certificate containing information about the absence of pathogenic organisms. Issued by local authorities.
- CITES certificate-conclusion on the absence of prohibited items of fauna and flora (I hasten to reassure coleopterologists – there is only one beetle from the genus Colophon sp. And other insects and arthropods (most of them are of farm origin)
- list of transported species (appendix to CITES)
- customs law of the state from which you are going to export insects. For example, in Moldova, there are no specific and precise formulations. However, according to Law No. 1569-XV of 20.12.2002 on the procedure for the importation into and exportation from the Republic of Moldova of property by individuals. Fauna objects in some sense fall under section 9 of the article (paragraph 3) export and import of cultural property. Where it is stated that individuals do not have the right to export cultural property from the territory of the Republic of Moldova. Other values from the field of .... science, ...which may be removed from the country subject to the provisions of articles 4, 6, 7 and 8 and the submission of a permit,......
- human factor


At the Belarusian customs, there was a risk that I would be thrown off. So one aunt was thrown off just because she was carrying 2 bags of things-speculated. I was transporting my collection to St. Petersburg, when the customs officer found out what was in the bag, he asked with displeasure:
"What - the whole bag of insects?"
- "What kind of insects?"
- "Show it quickly."The customs officer's tone did not bode well. The customs officer quickly flipped through the contents of the folder. I asked
: "Was everything collected in Moldova?″
And he said, " Go ahead."
The invitation from Russia from the LTA also played a significant role.
At the Ukrainian customs at the entrance and exit, surprisingly everything went milder. Well, when you bring, say, a box of 10x16x20 dry mattresses (10 mattresses), from somewhere from summer walks, then of course everything is without problems, for good luck, so to speak.
I spent about a month on 5 papers, ROE was not issued to me from Rossi, I generally did not apply for it, and the prospect of waiting 30 days after the request did not please me much. At the same time, it's not a fact that your request will be accepted at all, I don't want to offend Denis Potanin in any way, thank him very much for his advice, but the bureaucratic procedure of passing through with non-working mailboxes of the organization, after 2-3 weeks of waiting, constant switching from one person to another, because no one can really say anything when you are 2000 km away, this is not entirely convenient. So I had enough of the phytosanitary paper from Moldova, where the guys welcomed me cordially, for which I thank them.

So, I had 5 papers:
1) Invitation from the LTA
2) Phytosanitary certificate of absence of pathogenic organisms
3) Certificate of the purpose of exporting the collection – for taxonomic purposes within the framework of cooperation (important paper-as it indicates that you are transporting the collection not for commercial, but for didactic or scientific purposes).
4) CITES certificate
5) Appendix – list of species. For the first time I counted my collection, and even then I didn't have enough for 7000 and broke it. And when I asked the Ukrainians whether the material should be declared, they said:
- "And that all 7000 should be entered in the declaration – what are you doing?"

All papers in the academy must pass the exit seal.

P.S. I prayed before the trip. After passing through the Belarusian customs, I thanked God that everything went well. It would be a shame. In joy, I called my relatives in St. Petersburg, it turned out that I used roaming, and he ate 100 rubles in 2 minutes.

04.10.2010 23:49, Bad Den

but it's a bureaucratic procedure to go through an organization's mailboxes that don't work

Do you mean e-mail? As far as I know, applications submitted by e-mail are not considered (only those submitted by regular, offline, or email).

17.08.2012 15:44, Thetis

Tell me, who knows what is the situation with the export of insects collected on its territory from Ukraine? The material is in alcohol.

17.08.2012 16:36, GlebSinon

It depends on how much you are carrying, although, again, I'm not sure...

17.08.2012 19:34, Shtil

There have never been any problems with transportation from or to Ukraine. I will say exactly about trains-customs looks at personal items very rarely. The main thing is not to attract attention (unshaven, fumes sticking out of the backpack grenadesmile.giflauncher. And also, they don't carry insects that often, so even if they climb and find them (I repeat, I've never had this before), you can "persuade"them. Accordingly, if you carry a bucket of goliaths, it will be more difficult to persuade smile.gifthem, and if you take a dozen or two bottles of alcohol and micra, and even sprinkle them with stale socks , you will take them out without any problems!

About not taking anything out, if officially, maybe. And so, I send the material by mail very openly - I've never had any problems.

18.08.2012 8:53, алекс 2611

There have never been any problems with transportation from or to Ukraine. I will say exactly about trains-customs looks at personal items very rarely. The main thing is not to attract attention (unshaven, fumes sticking out of the backpack grenadesmile.giflauncher. And also, they don't carry insects that often, so even if they climb and find them (I repeat, I've never had this before), you can "persuade"them. Accordingly, if you carry a bucket of goliaths, it will be more difficult to persuade smile.gifthem, and if you take a dozen or two bottles of alcohol and micra, and even sprinkle them with stale socks , you will take them out without any problems!

About not taking anything out, if officially, maybe. And so, I send the material by mail very openly - I've never had any problems.


Well, there are no problems with the plane. You check in your luggage and that's it. No one tries to look at it. Well, of course, if the grenade launcher does not stick smile.gifout

18.08.2012 10:42, Bad Den

Tell me, who knows what is the situation with the export of insects collected on its territory from Ukraine? The material is in alcohol.

By plane - they won't let you pass alcohol in your hand luggage: liquids can't be brought into the cabin (except for the material from duty-free smile.gif)
Check in your luggage and you will be lucky smile.gif

18.08.2012 11:38, алекс 2611

By plane - they won't let you pass alcohol in your hand luggage: liquids can't be brought into the cabin (except for the material from duty-free smile.gif)
Check in your luggage and you'll be lucky smile.gif

Of course, you don't need it in your hand luggage. Hand luggage is checked very carefully. At Donetsk airport, this time they were interested in a matchbox with a bee in hand luggage. Luggage only!

18.08.2012 12:55, GlebSinon

I don't know how lucky you will be, by train/plane, plane - no problem, (although if in hand luggage,..not unlikely! "the grenade launcher isn't sticking out, is it?" confused.gif smile.gif ,the train too-in general, neither in Ukraine nor in other places there is no business, again, it all comes down to a grenade launcher... smile.gif

P.S.: By the way, where can I get a bucket of Goliaths? Do you need to know the places? lol.gif smile.gif
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18.08.2012 17:02, Igorvet

From the North. Africa, the Balkans, Nepal, etc. (including the Russian Federation) exported the material exclusively in luggage, using muz. double bass instrument, never bothering with permissions. Try to get it officially in Nepal or Egypt, where it is strictly forbidden to export objects of flora and fauna. You will learn a lot of interesting things. Or how to take out a deer beetle or an oak barbel from sunny Bulgaria, even caught on a hotel balcony. Therefore, I think, with a few exceptions, it is still a dream to export officially from most countries, no more.

This post was edited by Igorvet - 18.08.2012 17: 03

22.08.2012 21:31, Трофим

If it is possible to get a permit, then it is much easier to sit at customs. But it's really troublesome. I was carrying taxes from Moldova, I did some paperwork again, and none of the 4 customs offices even asked about the bag with insects, so I don't have to do it once in a while.

24.08.2012 11:56, Oleg Belkin

Of course, you don't need it in your hand luggage. Hand luggage is checked very carefully. At Donetsk airport, this time they were interested in a matchbox with a bee in hand luggage. Luggage only!


Yes, they (customs officers) were cruelly disappointedwall.gif, they thought-cannabis (marijuana), and then a bee. Didn't sting anyone? smile.gif

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