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Prospects of entomophagy, what is it in Russia?

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05.01.2011 1:00, Hierophis

barko, and I'm against consumes.. in general, the more I make myself-the more pleasant wink.gifAnd in general, I do not catch maggots, and on ordinary bread mixed with bloodworms, with the addition of nereis, it bites perfectly wink.gif

05.01.2011 1:08, barko

barko, and I'm against consumes.. in general, the more I make myself-the more pleasant wink.gifAnd in general, I do not catch maggots, and on ordinary bread mixed with bloodworms, with the addition of nereis, it bites perfectly wink.gif
You don't have enough time to do everything yourself. I am for the division of labor.

05.01.2011 1:13, Hierophis

And I am for the abundance of free time wink.gifAnd in general, in Europe such a pace of life, which is even worse than under feudalism wink.gif

05.01.2011 1:18, Wild Yuri

I had to eat vipers, frogs, grasshoppers and ants)))) I can share recipes)))

"I had to.".. What, was it tasteless? Tell me!

05.01.2011 1:22, Hierophis

slava penza, and what kind of vipers, steppe, or common? By the way, I don't believe in ants, they are sour! (this doesn't mean I tried them ))))

05.01.2011 1:25, slava penza

everything is delicious), viper fillet with bones, still wriggling marinated and fried in oil later, frog legs boiled in salt water (tastes like shrimp), insects also nothing (sometimes prickly chitin toxin)

05.01.2011 1:26, Wild Yuri

more raspberry koknopryad))) imago)

Where have you been so hungry?

05.01.2011 1:26, slava penza

common, steppe we have rare, and they are smaller)

05.01.2011 1:29, slava penza

sour ants, I agree, vipers at field practice in zoology with vodka for a snack, frogs on the cordon, after the dog jaeger grabbed our supplies, that's what San Baryshev and I were so maniacal)

05.01.2011 1:30, slava penza

cocoonworms taste nothing, toko here is fluff in your mouth)

05.01.2011 1:32, Wild Yuri

everything is delicious), viper fillet with bones, still wriggling marinated and fried in oil afterwards

Then a shot glass... more... Everything is delicious! smile.gif

This post was edited by Wild Yuri - 05.01.2011 01: 34

05.01.2011 1:37, slava penza

in practice, our teachers even fry tapeworms from bream in oil, they say like squid, that's no way I can get such a bream, I want to try
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05.01.2011 1:40, Wild Yuri

Material from Wikipedia:

This is the phagia of it...

Entomophagy is a phenomenon of eating insects that is inherent in many living creatures (birds, reptiles, insects themselves, mammals). Among the populations of Central and South America, Australia, Africa, and in the southern and eastern regions of Asia, there are dishes and whole cuisines based on the preparation of insects that are very popular. Historically, entomophagy is not common in Europe, Russia, and North America, which is due to the colder climate that restricts the spread of insects in the summer and makes ungulate meat more accessible, as well as the lack of seasonings and spices. In fact, entomophagy is common in more than 100 countries around the world, and there is an opinion that in the future the number of people practicing this method of eating will increase due to the threat of world hunger. It is estimated that more than 1.5 thousand species of insects can be eaten in one form or another.

Entomophagy in the West

Accepted safety standards do not prohibit eating wormy vegetables and fruits. It is known that wormy apples are the sweetest on the tree, and it is impossible to exclude the fact of accidental ingestion of an insect. Moreover, a person in his life, without knowing it, swallows more than 300 g of insects, along with jams, bread and other products, or accidentally. It should be noted that insects contain a lot of protein. In some cases, certain food additives are obtained from them, for example, cochineal food dye is isolated from crushed scaly insects that live on a prickly pear.

Proponents of eating insects believe that this can solve many problems with obesity, high blood pressure, and so on. In the debate about healthy food, entomophagy has its own specific path, which differs from the traditional and vegetarian paths. Unlike vegetarians, entomophages believe that vegetable proteins, obtained, for example, from nuts and legumes, do not replace human animal proteins.

In the West, entomophagy is gradually becoming fashionable, concentrating in the communities associated with it. But we can firmly say that even after realizing all the advantages of entomophagy, it is very difficult for many people to overcome stereotypes.

Well written, you can't say anything. umnik.gif

05.01.2011 1:40, Hierophis

And the bug-turtle as a seasoning can be used?

05.01.2011 1:50, slava penza

by the way, on a bet I ate a bedbug) sweet)

05.01.2011 2:05, okoem

by the way, on a bet I ate a bedbug) sweet)

When I was studying at a university, a fellow student in a dorm on a bet (for the then Soviet ruble) ate a prusak. smile.gif

05.01.2011 3:25, mikee

  
unfortunately, either by accident. It should be noted that insects contain a lot of protein. In some cases, certain food additives are obtained from them, for example, cochineal food dye is isolated from crushed scaly insects that live on a prickly pear.

Well written, you can't say anything. umnik.gif

Yeah, especially cochineal on a pear... tongue.gif

05.01.2011 9:40, FTOR

Western entomophagy has no future - it is a bourgeois entertainment.

05.01.2011 13:26, Wild Yuri

by the way, on a bet I ate a bedbug) sweet)

And the smell? I "bit" one by accident (while picking raspberries) - I almost died...

05.01.2011 13:30, Wild Yuri

Yeah, especially cochineal on a pear... tongue.gif

And what is it based on?

05.01.2011 16:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

And what is it based on?

Cochineal? Like on prickly confused.gifpear (here I picked up something):

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05.01.2011 17:02, Hierophis

So according to Google, prickly pear and prickly pear are the same thing. So - everything is OK wink.gif
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05.01.2011 17:07, vasiliy-feoktistov

So according to Google, prickly pear and prickly pear are the same thing. So - all right wink.gif

By God, I didn't know the cactus was also called a prickly pear, thank you. smile.gif

05.01.2011 20:50, mikee

By God, I didn't know the cactus was also called a prickly pear, thank you. smile.gif

Yes, your works are wonderful, O Lord! There are also Polish and Armenian cochineal. It lives in the roots, and is selected outside only during the breeding season. Therefore, the pear, albeit prickly, somehow did not associate frown.gifat all

05.01.2011 22:41, RippeR

What was the horror? The smell? Taste?

it tasted terrible, as if something like oil had soaked everything in my mouth.
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05.01.2011 23:20, Wild Yuri

When I was a student, I worked in practice, on a bet (there was a lot of condensed milk or stewed meat at stake, or both - I don't remember now, but we always wanted smile.gifto eat ) Did you eat barbel and goldenrod larvae, as well as Curculio larvae ?nucum. Those that came out from under the bark of pine logs tasted sweet, while those that came out of spruce logs tasted bitter. Larvae of weevils from hazel fruits tasted like these very fruits.

About eating barbel larvae... Seaside beekeepers told such a story. Smashed an old elm stump for the extraction of tinder (rotten smoke), and there vooot such larvae! They showed me the size of a sausage... I froze: callipogonovye! And what did they do with them? Fed to the dog! This is related to the topic of entomophagy in animals. It turns out that dogs also eat... And for some reason I called this word to myself beekeepers. frown.gif
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06.01.2011 9:08, Dmitry Vlasov

in practice, our teachers even fry tapeworms from bream in oil, they say like squid, that's how I won't get such a bream, I want to try it

When I was professionally engaged in ichthyology, I also heard stories about frying ligula (=tapeworm). Allegedly, in the absence of oil, it is fried, and then the fish is put in this pan...
Once I decided to try it (I bought a large infected bream). I threw ligula in the pan ...(it's good that I didn't have time to eat the fish...) and almost threw up!!! Who cut the roundworm in high school-do you remember the smell? Ligula also has the most + enhanced due to heating... As a result, the worm is on... outside the window, and I washed the frying pan for a week.
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06.01.2011 10:54, Vorona

By God, I didn't know the cactus was also called a prickly pear, thank you. smile.gif

Not exactly "prickly pear" - "prickly pear", to be smile.gifsure, prickly pear.
It came from translators who don't know the subject. Together with "purple emperor "and"May fly"
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06.01.2011 11:16, Hierophis

Elizar, thank you, but I often bring fish with such worms from fishing, and they are so appetizing in appearance, so uniformly whitish, dense, it seems that they should taste like milk at an early stage of development. And I still wanted to ask them in my ear, and only my mother's protest and fear of the unknown stopped me)))

06.01.2011 20:07, Wild Yuri

About the topic in more detail... More for the "Bikes" section, but it will also come in handy here. What else besides insects can you eat on expeditions? Bird eggs! I was constantly advised by a friend. His name is Sasha. Herpetologist. He once came to Primorye for snakes. Let's go camping. He saw a bird's nest in a tree. Food! He reached for the eggs... Sasha is bald, and that's what saved him. I was distracted catching butterflies. Suddenly I hear a noise, swearing... I look up at the tree. Sasha, knocking down branches, falls down, and above him a large black bird!.. Lucky. It didn't crash. A bird fluttered into the canopy. And on the bald head of a friend, I saw a wound... "You won't believe it! From somewhere above... And kaaak!..."While defending the nest, it was attacked by a black crow. From surprise, Sasha lost his footing and fell down. Birds usually aim at the eye, but here is a shiny bald spot... The sight was broken. Sasha was lucky. What if I'd gone after the eggs?
That's the story.

06.01.2011 20:14, Alexandr Rusinov

On trips, too, I had to eat all sorts of things - frogs, bird eggs, and pearl barley with toothless ones... I really didn't eat insects. Except for the mosquitoes that have fallen into the pot and their larvae in the tea wink.gif

This post was edited by Anthrenus - 06.01.2011 20: 19

07.01.2011 14:47, RippeR

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07.01.2011 19:37, Ilia Ustiantcev

Leeches are unusual animals, they have a lot of muscles, in fact-the same meat. That's probably why they eat)

08.01.2011 0:21, vep

A year ago, while in Laos and living in their village, I had a chance to taste local cuisine. The children of the owner caught small fish in the river, well, very small, like gupyashki, which is quite placed in a matchbox, as well as the larvae of dragonflies and water scorpions. They brought all this stuff alive in a basin to show us, said they wanted to treat us to it. Then they fried the fish separately, the insects separately, and brought them to the table with rice. I had only ever eaten grasshopper hind legs when I was a child, when I was still a pioneer in the camp. And here's a full plate of such good stuff. It was necessary to try, people tried to catch, cooked... Not everyone, however, took the risk, some of them sat and laughed and made jokes about us like this: "The locals are now tearing their bellies with laughter: how white fools are screwing up all our cockroaches...!"The fish was like a fish. The insects were also fine, fried with a lot of vegetable oil, salted. I liked dragonfly larvae better. The naps were tougher and had to be chewed for a long time. It was more like unpeeled fried seeds. The rice was fine. So if you want, you can also cook this with us.

08.01.2011 1:30, Aleksandr Ermakov

From personal experience: I had to go hungry for a short time in the Northern Urals. As an experiment, I cooked half a cup of ant pupae (Formica). It looks like rice, but the taste (even with salt) is terrible. I couldn't finish my meal. It's better to eat raw mushrooms or mosquitoes in a broth from a cube ...
PS. From a distant childhood. I remember in the pioneer camp, the pioneers caught horseflies (Tabanus) and made them " zhuzhe "(tied on a string). And one experienced boy tore off the bellies of horseflies and licked off the transparent jelly-like formation ("drop of honey") that remained on the front of the chest. I assured everyone that it was delicious and sweet. I didn't try it myself, but I believed it.

08.01.2011 12:30, vep

No, we stuck a reed in the ass of the tabanus and let it go. They tied up May beetles. Well, bumblebees, but I loved them and did not tie them myself. And horseflies are sweet. I haven't tried them myself, but when you nail a dozen of them on your hand and lick the bitten spot, it's sweet! And so the dog on the Yenisei with great pleasure caught horseflies and ate: they are her, she is them!

13.01.2011 9:10, Dmitry Vlasov

It turns out entomophagy will help fight global warming!!!
http://science.compulenta.ru/586773/

14.01.2011 2:29, Wild Yuri

It turns out entomophagy will help fight global warming!!!
http://science.compulenta.ru/586773/

Cool stuff! Thanks!
Chocolate-covered crickets, by the way, became one of the hit products in London supermarkets (it was once reported in TV news). Maybe it's time to bring it to Moscow?
Probably not: we are still very far from European creativity.

14.01.2011 9:34, Guest

It is much easier to organize commercial production of bee larvae. Drones, for example.
Beekeeping is developed all over Russia.

14.01.2011 13:45, vasiliy-feoktistov

Cool stuff! Thanks!
Chocolate-covered crickets, by the way, became one of the hit products in London supermarkets (it was once reported in TV news). Maybe it's time to bring it to Moscow?
Probably not: we are still very far from European creativity.

Yes, we will catch it ourselves, why import it? But who will eat them smile.gif.

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