Prospects of entomophagy, what is it in Russia?

Gregarin need not be afraid - they are non-pathogenic for humans. So thresh everything. Well, when humanity enters a new era and puts the production of food from insects on stream on the packs of individual goods will clearly write-PRESERVATIVES, PHENYLALANINE AND GREGARIN DOES NOT CONTAIN!

I understand that they are safe, they even have species specificity there.
But all the same, I here is such here is filmed have their mealybugs, and as something obnoxious now their eat )

As for the inscriptions in the case of a new era-the era of eating insects, then no matter how popular the inscriptions like "DOES NOT CONTAIN INSECTS")))

Cool photo. I have so on the contrary, it causes an appetite. Tell me how you extracted them? Have you had your intestines dissected? Is this a phase contrast?

FTOR, this is such a nozzle, with which you can very clearly see all sorts of translucent and transparent nonsense, by turning it(the nozzle) to the desired angle. I read the theory briefly in Google, it seems to me that it most likely works using the "dark field" method. And I got it as usual, from the intestines, I'm thinking about whether to watch the intestines of acrid and decticus, or maybe not worth it...)))

is this a photo of the contents of Khrushchak's intestines?

Musolin, yes. By the way, marblers (cockroaches) also have gregarins, I can post a picture of them gregarins are beautiful, they look like ribosomes.

Yes, it would be interesting!

I understood you. This nozzle is most similar to a phase-contrast device. The dark field has a slightly different appearance. Although the final answer is still up to you - they can sometimes be similar, especially when objects are crowded in the entire field of view. I think it is necessary to watch everything in a row-absolutely everything in a row. Watch akrid, roundworm and anyone else you catch-it develops your horizons. I strongly advise you to open a simple earthworm or cockroach, or even better termite, a lot of interesting things are found in them.

Musolin, yes. By the way, marblers (cockroaches) also have gregarins, I can post a picture of them gregarins are beautiful, they look like ribosomes.

Och please! Take a picture to the studio!!

Here is a picture of gregarina, which I found at marbornikoa. Very small concentrations of them, by the way, for some reason, zophobos and mealybugs have much more! And the Zophobos also have huge gregarins
It's certainly interesting to watch, but akrid is better to watch after you've eaten it) And I also watched the roundworm at home, true, but only with the help of MBS, with a large multiplicity it was scary to look, otherwise there are a lot of eggs, you need to cut them up, but it's scary

By the way, a big disadvantage is that large animals can always easily remove the intestines, and insects have to eat with it. And especially the larvae-yes, there is probably pilaf in them by volume - all sorts of rot on different degrees of decomposition

PS
Well, another picture of Gregarin zofobos and muchnyak, like so.

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Another photo. Quite appetizing.
Would you like to know who ate insects? Recommended types. So far, only one message (RippeR - y-thank you!)...

When I was a student, I worked in practice, on a bet (there was a lot of condensed milk or stewed meat at stake, or both - I don't remember now, but we always wanted to eat ) Did you eat barbel and goldenrod larvae, as well as Curculio larvae ?nucum. Those that came out from under the bark of pine logs tasted sweet, while those that came out of spruce logs tasted bitter. Larvae of weevils from hazel fruits tasted like these very fruits.

"Civilized" pasta makers have long consumed Piophila casei larvae, snacking on their casu marzu cheese. They are poisoned, however, sometimes, but only if they use larvae that are pretty rotten.

Super photos!!!
My advice to you is to study soil biology. Collect the simplest elector and collect soil fauna, make pictures. The hardware allows you to do this.

Well, it's not very interesting to me, but I became interested in scrapers after this topic, as far as I understand, I just need to take a rhino larva from a dung heap, and there will be a scraper larva in it?

Well, it's not very interesting to me, but I became interested in scrapers after this topic, as far as I understand, I just need to take a rhino larva from a dung heap, and there will be a scraper larva in it?

Better larva of May crunch from places where there are a lot of wild boars. It's safer that way.

Better larva of May crunch from places where there are a lot of wild boars. It's safer that way.

And we don't have May crunches. There are marble crunches, and wild boars live there too, but we still need to find larvae. In general, we should try to do this, because Rhino larvae are much easier to find, and if you are lucky, you can also grab a larva with scolia - I've also never seen how it is located in it, or what it is in general.

FTOR, this is such a nozzle, with which you can very clearly see all sorts of translucent and transparent nonsense, by turning it(the nozzle) to the desired angle. I read the theory briefly in Google, it seems to me that it most likely works using the "dark field" method. And I got it as usual, from the intestines, I'm thinking about whether to watch the intestines of acrid and decticus, or maybe not worth it... )))

Tell us more about this nozzle. Name, type, manufacturer, and so on. And it is also interesting to learn about the micrometer that can be seen in the picture. Where can I order it? Thank you in advance.

barko, come on, there is nothing very "fancy"here. I got all this in a set with MBS-9, this nozzle is still a dark field nozzle, it's 100%, phase-contrast nozzles-they still look very complicated, and this is just a disk that is placed between the condenser and the table, in a recess under the glass ring.
Micrometers of various types(grid and scale, and something else I think) are also included with the MBS. But by the way, I successfully use such a micrometer for a short-focus microscope, only I need to recalculate the values using the same plate(there the division step is 10 microns to mine).

Anthrenus, I understand, but maybe cows also have their own scrapers. By the way, I just read what is written in Dogel's book, I really didn't like the fact that the larva after completing metamorphosis draws in its proboscis, tail and becomes rounded. It will not be so easy to understand that this is the larva of a scraper.

Here is a picture of gregarina, which I found
at marbornikoa.....

PS
Well, another picture of Gregarin zofobos and muchnyak, like so.

So on the 1st - gregarins made of marble.

and on the 2nd-from zofobos or muchnyak ?

Musolin, in the first picture of Gregarin from marblestone, she is there alone, similar to a ribosome.
And in the bottom picture from zofobos And muchnyak. I do not claim that these are different species, or what categories they have, but these are gregarins from different species of black-heifers, let's just say, and they, gregarins, are different in morphology, which is noticeable in proportions.

That's what I thought, but I decided to clarify. Thank you.

good photos. I'm sorry, because we talk a little bit about them in the course on invertebrates of forest ecosystems. it will be necessary to try to pick up from khrushchak... or somehow find permanent medications...

When reading the forum, a thought came to me. I'll tell you about it now. It is known that waste is a big problem in the food industry. for example, in animal husbandry. If you take, for example, meat flies (or whose larvae there are able to chew horns and hooves) and make them producers of valuable proteins. However, the question arises with the effective extraction of valuable larvae from rotten filth.

As for the larvae of meat flies, their extraction is possible, the larvae are buried before pupation and when cooled, this time the larvae are extracted on a home scale, for fishing. But who will eat them?

As for the larvae of meat flies, their extraction is possible, the larvae are buried before pupation and when cooled, this time the larvae are extracted on a home scale, for fishing. But who will eat them?

And no one will eat them. From them, you need to isolate valuable proteins (I haven't figured out which ones yet). Myslnravitsya me more and more

As for the larvae of meat flies, their extraction is possible, the larvae are buried before pupation and when cooled, this time the larvae are extracted on a home scale, for fishing. But who will eat them?

At home, not on this. What to wait for when they start burrowing to go fishing? And where do you want them to go?"
The larvae are selected one at a time with tweezers and placed in the sand. It clings to them wet from the rot in which they were located. Then they are sifted through a metal sieve. Nasty procedure, but in the old days maggots for fishing were not available.

amateur graters. I don't even remember the sites that have been working on the topic for a long time and in depth.
I downloaded a book a long time ago, the bare text of which weighs about a megabyte - Indian diets among different peoples, very correct Latin...
Come, come, save humanity! they will multiply, come and say thank you)

Ta well, I did so, the fish is taken, put on the balcony, in general, everything is as usual. Then, when the maggots have already grown up, and you need to go fishing - the fish is put on flour(so it seems kosher than sand), and all this is in the refrigerator. Maggots are buried in flour, then the fish is removed, and the maggots remain in flour. There they "clean up" by eating flour, or trying to eat it. In general they are pure white

and let's not confuse tourism with emigration! - who's ever eaten maggots or barbels instead of lunch?
The tropics have their own problems - protein deficiency, kwashiorkor. that's where all the larvae and monkeys come in... And then the dope torment. Maggot breeding technologies on pig fuel, etc. manure for poultry farms has long been developed and tested. And the manure cart is still there!
* Let's breed fruit flies and take them to restaurants - we'll get rich!*

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Ta well, I did so, the fish is taken, put on the balcony, in general, everything is as usual. Then, when the maggots have already grown up, and you need to go fishing - the fish is put on flour(so it seems kosher than sand), and all this is in the refrigerator. Maggots are buried in flour, then the fish is removed, and the maggots remain in flour. There they "clean up" by eating flour, or trying to eat it. In general they turn out to be pure white

I simply did not know about this particular behavior of maggots in my school years. I must say, I had little regard for others when it came to fishing, but still I would not put such a disgusting thing that stinks unbearably in the home refrigerator.

I suggest making this topic useful for us entomologists, because on expeditions you always want to diversify your menu, and why not diversify it with exotic food of all kinds, you can not just insects, amphibians, reptiles, and other creatures that are alien to the diet of a normal Russian person!)))

I had to eat vipers, frogs, grasshoppers and ants)))) I can share recipes)))

I thought for a long time earlier-what to eat in karynih circumstances in nature. Larvae and cocoons of ants seem to be more universal and ubiquitous, but without an exhausterthe glass of food will be difficult to find.

more raspberry koknopryad))) imago)

barko, and I need to cover it was told to me by "experienced fishermen" on a fishing trip, by the way, during my school years. And my grandmother was not against it, almost ))
As for the stink, by the way, it doesn't stink as much, at least not as much as if the fish were rotten without maggots. It's not for nothing that maggots even treated festering wounds, they can be seen to secrete something antiseptic.

About mosquitoes.
"Still, from time to time I run my hand over the darkened areas and kill a handful at once. During the trek through the mountains, I used this handful for food. They're sweet. They contain proteins. But-here's the trouble - after chewing them, there are hard and very unpleasant-tasting paws. Paws have to be spat out."
Taken from here http://simiaup2.livejournal.com/23648.html#cutid1

Aha, and it is not known what kind of chupacabra mosquitoes sucked before, and then eat them So you can get a lot of new friends, as they say, in a healthy body-a healthy friend!

barko, and I need to cover it was told to me by "experienced fishermen" on a fishing trip, by the way, during my school years. And my grandmother was not against it, almost ))
As for the stink, by the way, it doesn't stink as much, at least not as much as if the fish were rotten without maggots. It's not for nothing that maggots even treated festering wounds, they can be seen to secrete something antiseptic.

Ta no, don't cover anything. Thank heaven now in any fishing shop you can buy any maggots for a penny, even white, even pink.
By the way, anyone interested can find out from the suppliers of these stores how larvae are grown and how expensive it is.

It would be necessary to find Andreas-a-that's who would share... Where are you? Please respond!